New Gaming PC help needed

[B3rni3]

Hey everyone 

 

I am looking into possibly buying a new gaming pc soon. I have recently moved to the US from the UK so I am not very familiar with all the stores over here so any help on where best to purchase would be great also. I have built a few pc's my last was a x79 3900k pc which was used for work and gaming. When i moved to the US I left that pc with my nephew so I will need everything to get started again, although I do have a copy of windows. Just looking for a gaming pc focusing on being quite and maximum performance, I no longer need a pc for work.

 

Budget is around $1500 for the rig but could be flexible, no budget set yet for the peripherals. Games I play/ want to play are mostly AAA games and the odd indie game. Looking to play games like the Witcher 3, Planet Zoo, Borderlands 3, GTA 5, Dawn of war 3 etc.

 

So far I have researched the following but any recommendations are welcome especially on the monitor side. Would Ideally like 1440p gaming above 60fps.

 

CPU: 9600k $200 @ Micro Centre

https://www.microcenter.com/product/512485/core-i5-9600k-coffee-lake-37-ghz-lga-1151-boxed-processor

Motherboard: MSI MPG Z390 Gaming Pro Carbon $220 @ Micro Centre

https://www.microcenter.com/product/512748/mpg-z390-gaming-pro-carbon-lga-1151-atx-intel-motherboard

Ram: Corsair Vengeance 16gb 3200 $75 @ Newegg

https://www.newegg.com/corsair-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820233859?Item=N82E16820233859

GPU: Powercolor Red Devil 5700xt $440 @ Newegg

https://www.newegg.com/powercolor-radeon-rx-5700-xt-axrx-5700xt-8gbd6-3dhe-oc/p/N82E16814131752?Item=N82E16814131752

Case: be quiet Pure Base 500 $90 @ Newegg

https://www.newegg.com/metallic-gray-be-quiet-pure-base-atx-mid-tower/p/2AM-0037-00070?Item=9SIA68VA2M5452

M.2: Corsair Force MP510 $125 @ Newegg

https://www.newegg.com/corsair-force-mp510-960gb/p/N82E16820236477?Item=N82E16820236477

PSU: Seasonic Focus 650w $100 @ Newegg

https://www.newegg.com/seasonic-focus-plus-650-gold-ssr-650fx-650w/p/N82E16817151186?Item=N82E16817151186

Cooler: be quiet Dark Rock Pro 4 $90 @ Newegg

https://www.newegg.com/be-quiet-dark-rock-pro-4-bk022/p/13C-001F-00027?Item=9SIA68V6YA3005

 

Total: $1340 excluding taxes

1tb M.2 should be enough for me right now and I can always add a sata SSD later if I need more room. Any suggestions or changes to the above would be helpful. I also need suggestions for a monitor preferably 1440p and gysync/freesync but open to suggestions. I also need a keyboard, I like the feel of a mechanical but I don't like to noise so an in between would be best.

 

Thanks

[zlolslavez]

I'm not quite up to date with the GPU market atm (not sure what the best value in the upper range is), but I see no reason that you shouldn't be looking at a 3600/3700(x), especially since you plan on playing at 1440p. I would also recommend a higher quality PSU as I don't think that's that high on the tier list but I may be wrong.

 

edit: Nvm psu is fine, definitely still go Zen 2.

[B3rni3]

Thanks for that. I am not very familiar with Ryzen and AMD as I haven't really kept up with things so what would you recommend for an AMD build?

[zlolslavez]

Just now, B3rni3 said:

Thanks for that. I am not very familiar with Ryzen and AMD as I haven't really kept up with things so what would you recommend for an AMD build?

Around the same budget would be a Ryzen 3600 and a B450 Gigabyte Aorus board. With the savings on the board you might be able to bump up to a 3700(x).

[SpookyCitrus]

The Ryzen 5 3600 is much better than the 9600k, the 3600 is pretty much on par with the 8700k and 9700k for a lot less.

Going with a Ryzen build and knowing what to get can get you a better CPU, GPU, Case, and PSU. You can also go for liquid cooling if you want that or just go for the DRP4 like you were, or don't spend money on a cooler at all because it comes with a very good stock cooler.

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor	$194.89 @ Amazon
CPU Cooler	Corsair H100i PRO 75 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler	$116.98 @ Amazon
Motherboard	MSI B450 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard	$114.95 @ Amazon
Memory	Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory	$74.99 @ Amazon
Storage	Sabrent Rocket 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	$109.98 @ Amazon
Video Card	PowerColor Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB Red Devil Video Card	$439.99 @ Amazon
Case	Phanteks Eclipse P400A ATX Mid Tower Case	$72.98 @ Newegg
Power Supply	Cooler Master MWE Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	$86.99 @ Amazon
Case Fan	Phanteks PH-F120MP_BBK_PWM 53.3 CFM 120 mm Fan	$14.99 @ Amazon
Case Fan	Phanteks PH-F120MP_BBK_PWM 53.3 CFM 120 mm Fan	$14.99 @ Amazon
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$1241.73
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-10-04 12:40 EDT-0400

 

[Yurricho]

23 minutes ago, SpookyCitrus said:

The Ryzen 5 3600 is much better than the 9600k, the 3600 is pretty much on par with the 8700k and 9700k for a lot less

 

I dont know about that, in terms of gaming performance the 9600K still has AMD Beat with its gaming performance, but you get more stability with Ryzen due to its larger thread count, with games using them more effectively, if your looking apples to apples in gaming alone Intel has the better performing CPU on paper.

 

31 minutes ago, B3rni3 said:

Thanks for that. I am not very familiar with Ryzen and AMD as I haven't really kept up with things so what would you recommend for an AMD build?

 

Also id like to mention if you go with Zen 2 there will be some bios flashing that needs to happen with any board that isn't an X570... Keep that in mind when purchasing a motherboard for Ryzen, if its within your budget, look to get one with USB Flashback as a feature, it makes the whole process pretty simple as you dont need to either purchase an older Ryzen CPU or deal with AMD to get a Cheapie to do it (this includes waiting for shipping from them, and it needs to be returned) 

 

Edit : If you quote people, they will respond sooner as they get a notification

 

 

[SpookyCitrus]

13 minutes ago, Yurricho said:

I dont know about that, in terms of gaming performance the 9600K still has AMD Beat with its gaming performance, but you get more stability with Ryzen due to its larger thread count, with games using them more effectively, if your looking apples to apples in gaming alone Intel has the better performing CPU on paper.

 

Also id like to mention if you go with Zen 2 there will be some bios flashing that needs to happen with any board that isn't an X570... Keep that in mind when purchasing a motherboard for Ryzen, if its within your budget, look to get one with USB Flashback as a feature, it makes the whole process pretty simple as you dont need to either purchase an older Ryzen CPU or deal with AMD to get a Cheapie to do it (this includes waiting for shipping from them, and it needs to be returned) 

Anyone that has actually tested and used the Ryzen 5 3600 will know it's better than the 9600k which doesn't even have hyper threading, I've tested it heavily and the 3600 is a beast of a processor. 6 cores 12 threads, only about a 4% difference in single core(gaming) performance than the 9700k but the multi core and thread count is much better especially when you look at price. The CPU the 3600 runs closest to is the 8700k. It's just an all around better price to performance CPU, and I consider it a much better option over the 9600k as do a lot of others who have done testing on it and compared to the current Intel CPUs. Doesn't matter about what's on paper what matters is real world performance.

 

Also with regards to the B450 and bios updates, the B450 Tomahawk when bought from Amazon or newegg is shipping with the Zen2 update. Most of the popular B450 boards are shipping with it now that stock is coming back, the Tomahawk does have bios flashback built in as well. If you are curious you can also message the seller before purchasing a board to see if it will ship with support for Zen2 before you buy it. Most repair and service shops will also do the update for you for a small fee and even AMD will send you a bootkit  for free to get it updated if you verify your purchase through them.

[Yurricho]

1 minute ago, SpookyCitrus said:

Anyone that has tested and used the Ryzen 5 3600 will know it's better than the 9600k which doesn't even have hyper threading, I've tested it heavily and the 3600 is a beast of a processor. 6 cores 12 threads, only about a 4% difference in single core(gaming) performance than the 9700k but the multi core and thread count is much better especially when you look at price. The CPU the 3600 runs closest to is the 8700k. It's just an all around better price to performance CPU, and I consider it a much better option over the 9600k as do a lot of others who have done testing on it and compared to the current Intel CPUs.

 

Also with regards to the B450 and bios updates, the B450 Tomahawk when bought from Amazon or newegg is shipping with the Zen2 update. Most of the popular B450 boards are shipping with it now that stock is coming back, the Tomahawk does have bios flashback built in as well. If you are curious you can also message the seller before purchasing a board to see if it will ship with support for Zen2 before you buy it. Most repair and service shops will also do the update for you for a small fee and even AMD will send you a bootkit  for free to get it updated if you verify your purchase through them.

I agree with you Ryzen is much better, but in benchmarks ive seen, the 9600k is a solid gaming chip, and thats where it ends really. The 3600 is more viable to a variety of different tasks as well as having a better set of features and the higher Core/Thread count is much more appealing to me (I have an AMD build) I was just playing devils advocate in the fact that if someone didn't give a crap about value and wanted the best gaming performance at that price point (if 4% meant anything to anyone) that the 9600K is good for those people.

 

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Also with regards to the B450 and bios updates, the B450 Tomahawk when bought from Amazon or newegg is shipping with the Zen2 update. Most of the popular B450 boards are shipping with it now that stock is coming back, the Tomahawk does have bios flashback built in as well.

that said i wasnt aware that B450's were shipping with the new bios, i bought an Asus Prime X470 for my build and i still needed to flash... thought it was the same with all boards. my bad  

 

[j1mgg]

As you have seen above, use pcpartpicker and it will find you the best deals for each part, and also give warning to any glaring compatibility issues.

You will get so much more bang for your buck now you are in the states, good luck.

[B3rni3]

Thanks everyone for all the advice. One other question is with Thanks giving and black Friday a few weeks away is it worth waiting for the sales or is it traditionally not worth waiting for? I've not experienced US sales on pc parts before so just want advice so I don't waste money when I could easily wait a few weeks.