Ryzen 2600 EDC

[enzwho]

Hi!

 

Disclaimer: I'm REALLY new to all of this so kindly bear with me

 

I've been trying to work around this EDC issue of ryzen CPUs. I've read alot of solution of doing the power saver thing but it seems it's capping the frequency of my CPU at some level. While that will solve the EDC problem, it will sacrifice CPU performance. I've read that EDC might be due to CPU OC but I didn't overclocked mine.

 

Now, I checked Ryzen master and cross reference it with my task manager to check if I missed something. 

 

I find this weird. Ryzen master shows that I'm somehow beyond my base frequency (3.4hz, which is also set on my mobo, yes I checked) but my task manager says otherwise. Can I ask for advise to fix this? some work around other than the powersaver option?

 

 

[Mathieu9836]

What motherboard do you use, because many board don't have EDC limited to AMD specs, i can set my Crosshair VII to 140% and it still say i'm limited to 95A in Ryzen Master. As for clockspeed i would trust Ryzen Master and HWinfo over the task manager.

[enzwho]

3 hours ago, Mathieu9836 said:

What motherboard do you use, because many board don't have EDC limited to AMD specs, i can set my Crosshair VII to 140% and it still say i'm limited to 95A in Ryzen Master. As for clockspeed i would trust Ryzen Master and HWinfo over the task manager.

I'm using B450 DS3H mobo with 16GB corsair vengeance LPX RAM. Is going above 3.4Hz for 2600 bad? Specs says that it's the base frequency but max boost frequency is 3.9hz. Now I'm not really sure what they mean by "max boost frequency", is it the max overclock speed? Or is it just some way of saying that it's the maximum it can reach? I have not overclocked my CPU and set my BIOS as it is.

[Mathieu9836]

8 minutes ago, enzwho said:

I'm using B450 DS3H mobo with 16GB corsair vengeance LPX RAM. Is going above 3.4Hz for 2600 bad? Specs says that it's the base frequency but max boost frequency is 3.9hz. Now I'm not really sure what they mean by "max boost frequency", is the max overclock speed? Or is it just some way of saying that it's the maximum it can reach? I have not overclocked my CPU and set my BIOS as it is.

Max boost frequency is the maximum clockspeed that the CPU will allow itself to boost to in single core workload when everything is set to ''auto'' in the BIOS, it doesnt mean it can't reach higher then that with a static all core overclock. I personnaly own the 2700 and it's able to run 4.2ghz all core but it's running at 4.125ghz just because i know it's stable and cooler  at that speed with 1.33 volts. A friend own the 2600X and it's running 4.1ghz all cores at 1.4 volts.

EDIT: Note that max boost clock is achieved if you have enough power and temperature headroom, if your CPU is running at 75 degree with 1.45 volts at 3.7ghz, it probably won't go over that.

[enzwho]

1 hour ago, Mathieu9836 said:

Max boost frequency is the maximum clockspeed that the CPU will allow itself to boost to in single core workload when everything is set to ''auto'' in the BIOS, it doesnt mean it can't reach higher then that with a static all core overclock. I personnaly own the 2700 and it's able to run 4.2ghz all core but it's running at 4.125ghz just because i know it's stable and cooler  at that speed with 1.33 volts. A friend own the 2600X and it's running 4.1ghz all cores at 1.4 volts.

EDIT: Note that max boost clock is achieved if you have enough power and temperature headroom, if your CPU is running at 75 degree with 1.45 volts at 3.7ghz, it probably won't go over that.

Thank you so much for that! At least I know my CPU's still within spec range   Lastly, So should I just ignore the EDC warning?

[Mathieu9836]

You can use HWinfo to confirm how many amps your CPU is drawing but i don't think that should be an issue, give Cinebench R15 a try a let me know what is the score so we can compare with other 2600 CPUs

[enzwho]

16 hours ago, Mathieu9836 said:

You can use HWinfo to confirm how many amps your CPU is drawing but i don't think that should be an issue, give Cinebench R15 a try a let me know what is the score so we can compare with other 2600 CPUs

 

Here's my screenshot. Kinda throwing a guess here but... it looks... okay? right? 

[Mathieu9836]

Well, first of you ram is at 2100mhz, i would go look into UEFI to increase that.

Second, the DS3H as a very poor VRM, so you won't probably be able to run the CPU at very high frequency because of the board limitations, i would suggest you try to OC the CPU manually, you will probably be able to run 3.9-4.0ghz all cores with airflow over the VRM, they will tend to overheat easily. I had a very hard time keeping my 2400G stable on the DS3H, but it overcloked the memory just fine. F4 BIOS update was the most stable for me.

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On 10/3/2019 at 11:55 AM, Mathieu9836 said:

What motherboard do you use, because many board don't have EDC limited to AMD specs, i can set my Crosshair VII to 140% and it still say i'm limited to 95A in Ryzen Master. As for clockspeed i would trust Ryzen Master and HWinfo over the task manager.

The 140% that you are referencing isn't how you would manipulate EDC as displayed in Ryzen Master.  If it's available in the BIOS for this person's board then it is likely to be found under Precision Boost Overdrive when it is set to manual.  Then it should allow you to change PPT TDC and EDC.  Or they can be increased in Ryzen Master.  

[enzwho]

7 hours ago, Mathieu9836 said:

Well, first of you ram is at 2100mhz, i would go look into UEFI to increase that.

Second, the DS3H as a very poor VRM, so you won't probably be able to run the CPU at very high frequency because of the board limitations, i would suggest you try to OC the CPU manually, you will probably be able to run 3.9-4.0ghz all cores with airflow over the VRM, they will tend to overheat easily. I had a very hard time keeping my 2400G stable on the DS3H, but it overcloked the memory just fine. F4 BIOS update was the most stable for me.

Thanks! This is really helpful!

I thought about doing your second point but I don't think I like to OC my CPU (right now, maybe some other time in the future).