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Răzvan Botea
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Build here: https://secure.newegg.com/global/de-en/Wishlist/SharedWishlistDetail?ID=toCDwx1Mn%2fU%3d (PS: I'll equip it with 24GB of ram (3x8), but I couldn't find single 8GB sticks on newegg)

 

1. Budget & Location

 

My budget revolves around 3500CAD (the budget includes peripherals, though the wishlist is lacking them) . I live in the EU. I'm flexible to the budget, so please exclude shipping costs from retailers.

 

2. Aim

 

I'm a software engineer and also a tech enthusiast and I just love buying new tech stuff. It's about time to upgrade from a gaming laptop (Asus ROG with gtx 970M, 24GB RAM, i7-4720HQ). I game, but I'm not so much into any new game that pops up, nor do I play competitively.

 

3. Monitors

 

Single monitor setup. The bolded points are a must for me. Also I'm a firm believer that 50% of the experience of using a PC is given by it's display.

  • 2K res
  • 120hz +
  • GSync
  • 30in size
  • Want to try VA panels as I've always used IPS/TN panels by now (I'm open to suggestions)

4. Peripherals

  • I have a Windows 10 pro license key, no need to purchase
  • I haven't included any peripherals yet (mouse & keyboard), so I'm open to suggestions (CAD200 allocation for them)
  • As far as my typing experience, I've used a laptop for the past 7 years, mid-tier, high-end gaming, high-end professional (for my programming needs). I'll list them here: An old lenovo laptop @ €500 7 years ago, my current Asus ROG with gtx 970m, an Asus Zenbook 3 Deluxe and my current work laptop Asus Zenbook Pro 15 UX580GE. I also own a wireless Logitech K810 keyboard
  • The keyboard should have backlighting, RGB is a plus. I'm not a fond of mechanical keyboards, I prefer the comfort of other keyboards; full size keyboard. 
  • On mice: kinda the same story, I'm very used to my MX Master, so I'd love a similar experience. I don't care about variable DPI or macro keys or modular weight system.

 

5. Why are you upgrading?

  • Because I'm a tech enthusiasts and I want a rocket :) (within this budget)

 

Note

  • The graphics card will be set on a RTX 2070
  • Case will be set on a mini tower (mATX) and I'm open to suggestions about other mATX cases (tempered glass is a must; I can buy the case fans myself)
  • I couldn't find the case on newegg, but it's this (since my local online retailer has it listed): http://gamemaxpc.com/productkkk/showproduct.php?id=526
  • Question: would the graphics card block that smaller PCI buss underneath ? Thinking that I might want to equip it with a wireless card (with BT), since they are not expensive.
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can't you use PCPartPicker instead? Change region on the top right corner.

 

you'll see why the prices are so bad on Newegg

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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On 9/13/2019 at 1:52 AM, Jurrunio said:

can't you use PCPartPicker instead? Change region on the top right corner.

 

you'll see why the prices are so bad on Newegg

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU Intel Core i7-9700 3 GHz 8-Core Processor €339.90 @ Caseking
CPU Cooler Deepcool NEPTWIN V2.0 53.65 CFM CPU Cooler €44.99 @ Amazon Deutschland
Motherboard Gigabyte H370M D3H GSM Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard €99.90 @ Caseking
Memory G.Skill Aegis 8 GB (1 x 8 GB) DDR4-2133 Memory €42.37 @ Amazon Deutschland
Memory G.Skill Aegis 8 GB (1 x 8 GB) DDR4-2133 Memory €42.37 @ Amazon Deutschland
Memory G.Skill Aegis 8 GB (1 x 8 GB) DDR4-2133 Memory €42.37 @ Amazon Deutschland
Storage Samsung 970 Evo Plus 250 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive €71.45 @ Amazon Deutschland
Storage Western Digital Blue 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive €122.90 @ Amazon Deutschland
Video Card MSI GeForce RTX 2070 8 GB Video Card  
Power Supply EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  
Monitor LG 32GK850G-B 31.5" 2560x1440 144 Hz Monitor €559.81 @ Amazon Deutschland
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total €1366.06
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-09-15 16:44 CEST+0200  

 

 

Couldn't find a suitable case. I'm open to suggestion. Budget is €100. MINIATX and tempers glass, some rgb would be nice. 

 

No peripherals either, so I'm open to suggestions. 

 

Total budget is 2300 euro (so I'm not sure why this website comes out so cheap). But let's "round" it down to 1800 euros. 

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2 hours ago, Răzvan Botea said:

(so I'm not sure why this website comes out so cheap

If you examine the build list you will see that the gpu and psu have no cost. That is why the price comes out so low.

 

The memory configuration is sub-optimal. Buying separate sticks leaves a small chance that a pair will not operate in dual channel mode. Using three sticks guarantees that one bank will only operate in single channel. Finally, the stock memory controller speed is DDR4-2666. While different memory speeds do not have a large impact on performance, speeds below DDR4-2666 definitely perform worse.

 

The Gamemax H605-TA case has a max cpu cooler height of 155 mm. The Neptwin V2 is 159 mm tall with fan mounted. Something like Scythe Mugen 5 Rev. B 51.17 CFM CPU Cooler would fit.

 

I'd suggest that you consider an AMD 3700X cpu instead of the i7-9700. The 3700X has higher single thread performance and thus better overall performance.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor  (€329.90 @ Caseking) 
Motherboard: ASRock X570M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  (€188.99 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  (€168.89 @ Alternate) 
Storage: Intel 660p Series 1.02 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  (€103.89 @ Mindfactory) 
Video Card: MSI GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB VENTUS OC Video Card  (€530.90 @ Alza) 
Power Supply: Corsair RMx (2018) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€94.99 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Monitor: LG 32GK850G-B 31.5" 2560x1440 144 Hz Monitor  (€559.81 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Custom: GameMax H605-TB Case Mini Micro Tower 3 Ventole RGB con RF Remote Front Tempered Glass 0.6MM SPCC 3*USB3.0/2.0 Pannello Laterale in Vetro Temperato  (€60.41 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Total: €2037.78
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-09-15 19:45 CEST+0200

 

 

80+ ratings certify electrical efficiency. Not quality.

 

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I'll recommend something like this instead...

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor  (€199.90 @ Alternate) 
Motherboard: MSI B450 Gaming Plus MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard  (€96.99 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport LT 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  (€78.99 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Storage: Sabrent Rocket 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  (€119.95 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB Video Card  (€417.99 @ Mindfactory) 
Case: Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case  (€95.89 @ Alternate) 
Power Supply: BitFenix Formula Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply  (€69.90 @ Caseking) 
Monitor: AOC CQ32G1 31.5" 2560x1440 144 Hz Monitor  (€356.00 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Keyboard: Corsair K55 RGB Wired Gaming Keyboard  (€55.51 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Mouse: Redragon COBRA M711 Wired Optical Mouse  (€19.99 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Total: €1511.11
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-09-15 19:57 CEST+0200

SSD TIER LIST

 

 

CPU - Ryzen 7 3700X

Mobo - ASRock X470 Taichi

Memory - G.Skill Trident Z RGB (8x2 3200MHz) 

Storage - Sabrent Rocket 1TB - Seagate Barracuda 2TB - WD Black 1TB

GPU - MSI GeForce GTX 980Ti LIGHTNING

Case - Fractal Design Meshify C

PSU - Super Flower Leadex II Gold 650W

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PCPartPicker Part List

Type Item Price
CPU Intel Core i7-9700 3 GHz 8-Core Processor €339.90 @ Caseking
CPU Cooler Deepcool NEPTWIN V2.0 53.65 CFM CPU Cooler €44.99 @ Amazon Deutschland
Motherboard Gigabyte H370M D3H GSM Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard €99.90 @ Caseking
Memory G.Skill Aegis 8 GB (1 x 8 GB) DDR4-2133 Memory €42.37 @ Amazon Deutschland
Memory G.Skill Aegis 8 GB (1 x 8 GB) DDR4-2133 Memory €42.37 @ Amazon Deutschland
Memory G.Skill Aegis 8 GB (1 x 8 GB) DDR4-2133 Memory €42.37 @ Amazon Deutschland
Storage Samsung 970 Evo Plus 250 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive €71.45 @ Amazon Deutschland
Storage Western Digital Blue 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive €122.90 @ Amazon Deutschland
Video Card MSI GeForce RTX 2070 8 GB Video Card  
Power Supply EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  
Monitor LG 32GK850G-B 31.5" 2560x1440 144 Hz Monitor €559.81 @ Amazon Deutschland
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total €1366.06
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-09-15 16:44 CEST+0200  

Questionable choices, everywhere.

 

9700 + H370 could be cheaper for the same performance as 3700x idk, but 9600k + z390 (even the rather cheap boards like the MSI Gaming Plus, though I'd ideally want the Asrock Extreme4 or Phantom 6) is definitely faster for about the same money because you can overclock it to frequencies noticeably higher than the 9700.


The cooler... sure no problem

 

Memory config is straight up weird. With 3 sticks, you get 8gb capacity in dual channel, 4gb in single channel (half bandwidth). 2133MHz is also really slow, could hurt gaming performance especially in frame rate stability (even if it's Intel, not Ryzen). Spend more for 3000MHz 2x8gb here

 

Samsung SSDs in general cost too much, just like buying an iPhone when all you need is a smartphone. 500GB QLC NVMe SSD like the 660p or TLC SATA SSD like the MX500 or SU800 

 

2060 Super and 5700XT performs close to the 2070, also keep those in mind

 

the PSU's pretty bad

You need 550w max for 9600k + even the more power hungry 5700xt, any more is "want", not need.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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