2200g vs 6600

[The Torrent]

Intel 6600 vs Ryzen 2200g for temporary non gaming build.

 

assuming 6600 is about 50% cheaper (to make up for resale value loss).

 

and how do these par for gaming for let’s say paired with a gtx 1060 6gig,

 

 

[Princess Luna]

Will you have or not a dedicated GPU? that matters a lot.

 

Locked i5 6600 is barely faster than the R3 2200G and the Ryzen has far better integrated graphics but if you'll have a GTX 1060 then maybe the i5 makes more sense but in reality neither is what you should buy if you'll have a GTX 1060... I'd look for something like the Ryzen 5 1400 even if second hand since it's basically a locked i7 4770.

[Valkyrie Lenneth]

17 minutes ago, The Torrent said:

Intel 6600 vs Ryzen 2200g for temporary non gaming build.

 

assuming 6600 is about 50% cheaper (to make up for resale value loss).

 

and how do these par for gaming for let’s say paired with a gtx 1060 6gig,

 

 

non gaming build, sell the 1060 and get a good cpu ?

[The Torrent]

23 minutes ago, Princess Luna said:

Will you have or not a dedicated GPU? that matters a lot.

 

Locked i5 6600 is barely faster than the R3 2200G and the Ryzen has far better integrated graphics but if you'll have a GTX 1060 then maybe the i5 makes more sense but in reality neither is what you should buy if you'll have a GTX 1060... I'd look for something like the Ryzen 5 1400 even if second hand since it's basically a locked i7 4770.

does 6600 have intergrated graphics.

do intergrated graphics really matter much cuz they all bad aren't they? what performance will they effect?

1400 is not supported in x570 boards which is what i'd get if i got ryzen - why: im gonna upgrade in 9/10 months time.

 

14 minutes ago, Valkyrie Lenneth said:

non gaming build, sell the 1060 and get a good cpu ?

need the gpu for displayport and maybe something light like csgo.

[Epimetheus]

14 minutes ago, Valkyrie Lenneth said:

non gaming build, sell the 1060 and get a good cpu ?

i think since he said it's a temporary solution he wants to get the gpu now and get a beefier cpu later, in that case the 2200g is the best choice since it's not on a dead platform and has a far greater upgrade path

[Epimetheus]

1 minute ago, The Torrent said:

does 6600 have intergrated graphics.

 do intergrated graphics really matter much cuz they all bad aren't they? what performance will they effect?

1400 is not supported in x570 boards which is what i'd get if i got ryzen - why: im gonna upgrade in 9/10 months time.

 

need the gpu for displayport and maybe something light like csgo.

if you're planning on doing something light i'd recommend getting a cheaper gpu like the rx 570, in most countries it's much cheaper than the 1060 and performs close enough

[The Torrent]

14 minutes ago, Epimetheus said:

i think since he said it's a temporary solution he wants to get the gpu now and get a beefier cpu later, in that case the 2200g is the best choice since it's not on a dead platform and has a far greater upgrade path

Yea but 1060 will be scrapped too in a years time I just need that for DisplayPort, I just put thst there as it’s what I thought I probably will get something cheaper, much cheaper like 950 or something prob depends but not important.

 

I did think that but I can get like a 6600 with a mobo for a hundred quid whereas the 2200g is 80 quid alone and then i’d buy a permanent motherboard too but motherboards will end up being cheaper in a years time etc etc.

 

[X-System]

46 minutes ago, The Torrent said:

need the gpu for displayport

Get an Intel motherboard with integrated DisplayPort.

 

ASRock H170M PRO4 for example.

[Epimetheus]

By going with the 6600 though you'd have to change the motherboard too alongside the cpu, so you'd end up loosing money, since the 6600 is on a dead platform. I'd go with a 2200g and b350 or b450 motherboard

[trevb0t]

5 hours ago, The Torrent said:

1400 is not supported in x570 boards which is what i'd get if i got ryzen - why: im gonna upgrade in 9/10 months time.

I would just grab a nice 400 series board like the Gaming Pro Carbon that will support a Zen 2 upgrade either way. Unless the upgrade you have planned is a 3900X for whatever reason.

A 1400 or even a $60 1300 will work nicely enough in the board, and run fine as a placeholder for your next CPU.

 

People ask about the iGPU because the G in 2200G indicates integrated graphics. The 1300 is essentially the same piece without the iGPU and even cheaper. If you've got discrete graphics, there's no need for the 2200G. For not much more, the 1600 is a significant step up.

[The Torrent]

4 hours ago, X-System said:

Get an Intel motherboard with integrated DisplayPort.

 

ASRock H170M PRO4 for example.

I can get a 6600 with mobo cheap like a hundred bucks maybe less if I haggle.

 

1 hour ago, Epimetheus said:

By going with the 6600 though you'd have to change the motherboard too alongside the cpu, so you'd end up loosing money, since the 6600 is on a dead platform. I'd go with a 2200g and b350 or b450 motherboard

If I go amd I will get an expensive board which will ez handle zen 3

13 minutes ago, trevb0t said:

I would just grab a nice 400 series board like the Gaming Pro Carbon that will support a Zen 2 upgrade either way. Unless the upgrade you have planned is a 3900X for whatever reason.

A 1400 or even a $60 1300 will work nicely enough in the board, and run fine as a placeholder for your next CPU.

 

People ask about the iGPU because the G in 2200G indicates integrated graphics. The 1300 is essentially the same piece without the iGPU and even cheaper. If you've got discrete graphics, there's no need for the 2200G. For not much more, the 1600 is a significant step up.

Saving myself for zen 3,

 

 

 

 

 

and as i said, I’m thinking pci4 in the 500 series motherboards for futureproofing. I need this build to last a while and I’m thinking if in 5 years time they do pci4 graphics cards or something? I might be thinking something else I’m not too sure on pci4.

[trevb0t]

1 hour ago, The Torrent said:

I can get a 6600 with mobo cheap like a hundred bucks maybe less if I haggle.

Then why not just grab it now? Lol

 

The problem with the 6th Gen i5's is the frame drops. 

I think it was Tom's Hardware that had a really interesting bit of literature on the subject. They found that in comparison, an i7 2600 was a significantly improved experience.

 

I think for $100 on a CPU and MOBO with plans to go zen 2 in less than a year, though, that I might just pull that trigger.

 

I'm certainly interested to see what comes of PCIE 4. Thus far I believe all we've seen is that Navi can technically survive in it, and that SSDs get faster for WAY more money lol. 2-3 years from now, it might have opened enough doors to be affordable and upgraded gear all around, though.

[The Torrent]

23 minutes ago, trevb0t said:

Then why not just grab it now? Lol

 

The problem with the 6th Gen i5's is the frame drops. 

I think it was Tom's Hardware that had a really interesting bit of literature on the subject. They found that in comparison, an i7 2600 was a significantly improved experience.

 

I think for $100 on a CPU and MOBO with plans to go zen 2 in less than a year, though, that I might just pull that trigger.

 

I'm certainly interested to see what comes of PCIE 4. Thus far I believe all we've seen is that Navi can technically survive in it, and that SSDs get faster for WAY more money lol. 2-3 years from now, it might have opened enough doors to be affordable and upgraded gear all around, though.

100 a particularly good deal?

 

, reason 6th gen is cuz i want ddr4 as i just want to buy the ram now for rgb reasons. ill look into that frame drop thing.

[trevb0t]

19 minutes ago, The Torrent said:

100 a particularly good deal?

 

, reason 6th gen is cuz i want ddr4 as i just want to buy the ram now for rgb reasons. ill look into that frame drop thing.

I mean you could probably look around and find similarly good deals. It's not like you're making off like a bandit. 

Just know you're buying a locked 4c/4t CPU and MOBO used. So really, see if you can grab a 1600 and mobo for a similar price. It's a much better buy, even at $30-40ish more. 

[The Torrent]

25 minutes ago, trevb0t said:

I mean you could probably look around and find similarly good deals. It's not like you're making off like a bandit. 

Just know you're buying a locked 4c/4t CPU and MOBO used. So really, see if you can grab a 1600 and mobo for a similar price. It's a much better buy, even at $30-40ish more. 

cant find a 1600 and mobo combo anywhere