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So my cousin asked if i could help him upgrading his PC. with a budget of absolutely maximum of €300 minus €13,21 shipping cost, so that would leave €286,79 as an absolute maximum. (he first said €250, then i asked his absolute max) Preferably bought at azerty.nl note1 (alternate.be and amazon.de could be an option too)

He said he wanted to run a bit heavier games. It could be bought somewhere AFTER 6 weeks

 

The specs i got from him:

 

EDIT - cpu = i7 2600 (non K ofc.) 3.4GHz (turbo to 3.8GHz)

 

- it is an HP

 

-mobo: PCIe 16x ( i quess its PCIe v2.0 )

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-GPU: amd HD7570

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-RAM:2*4GB @ 1333MHz + 2 empty slots

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-psu 460W note2

 

notes

note1: azerty.nl links: GPU RAM (its in dutch as i live in belgium... i'm sorry)

 

note2: more info about his PSU as my cousin said it:

460W

12VC 10.0A

12VB 18.0A

12VA 15.0A

He also said all the amperages concluded to 360W

 

conclusion

I guess his cpu is quite good enough, but i dont think his GPU is. Maybe adding a single stick of ?random?1333MHz?4GB? RAM (idk if i have to look at timings, single/dual channel, etc... Also idk if he is a heavy multitasker, but i guess he could use an extra 4 gigs). i also guess an ssd wouldn't quite fit the budget.

Please help! ;)

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i know i use many of these: ( ) and these: ... (i really do... (sry...) ) edit: and edits

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The CPU (I'm guessing an i7 2600) is more than enough. 8GB of RAM is as well.

 

New PSU.

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Tbh I'm really confused reading all of this, I can see his GPU and yes its a little weak, his PSU is weak too, as for the CPU where about is this listed?

 

Also take a look at the older SATA2 SSDs, theres still a few around and if you can get hold of a 64GB one its enough for Windows and wont break the budget.

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Plan later. Parts and prices change frequently and 6 weeks is a long while from now.

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The CPU (I'm guessing an i7 2600) is more than enough. 8GB of RAM is as well. ...

yes its a i7 2600

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Those rails are piss weak, will likely want a new PSU. 

 

... New PSU.

 

i fearred so to :/

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... Also take a look at the older SATA2 SSDs, theres still a few around and if you can get hold of a 64GB one its enough for Windows and wont break the budget.

Do you mean cheap new 64GB ssd, or second hand ones?

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Plan later. Parts and prices change frequently and 6 weeks is a long while from now.

I never stood still by this... will ask again in about 6 weeks for GPU and PSU i guess ;)

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thanks all ;)

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yes its a i7 2600

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i fearred so to :/

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Do you mean cheap new 64GB ssd, or second hand ones?

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I never stood still by this... will ask again in about 6 weeks i guess ;)

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thanks all ;)

I would always buy an SSD new, but that's just me

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Plan later. Parts and prices change frequently and 6 weeks is a long while from now.

^this but with the caveat that id probably get something like a r9-270 or an r9-280x and a good power supply (corsair rm650w or something but im being generic minded), ram and board will be fine for high end gaming,if you wanna get him an ssd only get a 128 or preferably 256gb (double the space, faster writes but NOT double the price).

dont bother with 64gb ssd's the euro/performance/gb sucks.

Falcon: Corsair 750D 8320at4.6ghz 1.3v | 4GB MSI Gaming R9-290 @1000/1250 | 2x8GB 2400mhz Kingston HyperX Beast | Asus ROG Crosshair V Formula | Antec H620 | Corsair RM750w | Crucial M500 240GB, Toshiba 2TB, DarkThemeMasterRace, my G3258 has an upgrade path, my fx8320 doesn't need one...total cost £840=cpu£105, board£65, ram£105, Cooler £20, GPU£200, PSU£88, SSD£75, HDD£57, case£125.

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CASE:-icute zl02-3g-bb, CPU:-Phenom2 X6 1055t @3.5Ghz, COOLER:-Stock, BOARD:-Asrock m3a UCC, RAM:2x2GB 1333mhz Zeppelin (thats yellow!), GPU: XFX 1GB HD6870xxx, PSU:-some 450 POS, HDD:-WD Scorpio blue 120GB
CASE:-Packard Bell iMedia X2424, Custom black/red Aerocool Xpredator fulltower, CPU's:-E5200, C2D [email protected]<script cf-hash='f9e31' type="text/javascript"> /* */</script>(so e8500), COOLER:-Scythe Big shuriken2 Rev B, BFG gtx260 sp216 OC, RAM:-tons..
Gigabyte GTX460, Gigabyte gt430,
GPU's:-GT210 1GB,  asus hd6670 1GB gddr5, XFX XXX 9600gt 512mb Alpha dog edition, few q6600's
PICTURES CASE:-CIT mars black+red, CPU:-Athlon K6 650mhz slot A, COOLER:-Stock, BOARD:-QDI Kinetiz 7a, RAM:-256+256+256MB 133mhz SDram, GPU:-inno3d geforce4 mx440 64mb, PSU:-E-Zcool 450w, STORAGE:-2x WD 40gb "black" drives,
CASE:-silver/red raidmax cobra, CPU:-Athlon64 4000+, COOLER:-BIG stock one, BOARD:-MSI something*, RAM:-(matched pair)2x1GB 400mhz ECC transcend, GPU:-ati 9800se@375core/325mem, PSU:-pfft, HDD:-2x maxtor 80gb,
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CASE:-ML110 G4, CPU:-xeon 4030, COOLER:-stock leaf blower, BOARD:-stock raid 771 board, RAM:-2x2GB 666mhz kingston ECC ddr2, GPU:-9400GT 1GB, PSU:-stock delta, RAID:-JMicron JMB363 card+onboard raid controller, HDD:-320gb hitachi OS, 2xMaxtor 160gb raid1, 500gb samsungSP, 160gb WD, LAPTOP:-Dell n5030, CPU:-replaced s*** cel900 with awesome C2D E8100, RAM:-2x2GB 1333mhz ddr3, HDD:-320gb, PHONE's:-LG optimus 3D (p920) on 2.3.5@300-600mhz de-clock (batteryFTW)
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Do you mean cheap new 64GB ssd, or second hand ones?

A new one, you do have to do some searching but every now and then good deals come up as retailers try to clear out stock, I got myself a 64GB OCZ Vertex 2 for my Dell L702X Laptop a while back, only cost me around 1/4 of what a brand new 128GB Sata 3 drive would cost, SATA 2 SSDs are great for people on a budget.

 

And yeah, don't buy second hand SSDs, not so much nowadays but SSDs have always been quite fragile, you never know what abuse a second hand one could have had, but no doubt you'll get less than new performance from it.

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I would always buy an SSD new, but that's just me

 

yeah, me to, but he asked for being able to run better games, not faster load times :P . Besides, it has to fit in the budget

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^this but with the caveat that id probably get something like a r9-270 or an r9-280x and a good power supply (corsair rm650w or something but im being generic minded), ...

I was thinking in this range as well, but isn't 650W a bit too much? would something like 550W 600W work to? (idk if he or his parents care about 80+ bronze/silver/gold/platinum/none label )

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I was thinking in this range as well, but isn't 650W a bit too much? would something like 550W 600W work to? (idk if he or his parents care about 80+ bronze/silver/gold/platinum/none label )

80+ Bronze/silver/gold etc is not an indicator of quality but is often associated with. If you buy a good, quality PSU, it's going to be 80+ bronze. If you buy a shit PSU though, it can still be 80+ bronze. 

 

A solid 500w PSU (good quality) will power anything from Intel that isn't on 1366/2011 socket with anything GTX 780 and below, with room for overclocking both. 

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current r9 270x /280x prices in Belgium

also at this time of speaking, an r9 280x (starting at €260) and a PSU wouldn't fit in the €300 budget. Im guessing the prices won't drop that much in 6 weeks...

the R9 270X start at €155 and go up to €220 for the 2GB version at the time of speaking in Belgium (its a small country in europe).

I will see how the prices develop, and puzzle some more later ;)

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I was thinking in this range as well, but isn't 650W a bit too much? would something like 550W 600W work to? (idk if he or his parents care about 80+ bronze/silver/gold/platinum/none label )

theres no such thing as "too much" its not going to blow up with a 650w psu...

maybe itll be 5% less efficient during gaming and cost 80 cents a year extra to run (during load itll be at 45% load instead of 50%) but in the future you coudl rebuild the hp with tis original parts and use the same power supply in his first custom rig, not only that but he could then have the possibility of running a gtx780/ti or sli/crossfire without havign to get a new psu saving him money down the line..

and they should care, get 80+bronze minimum, if a manufacturer cant get bronze rated these days they arnt very good. golds better (saves money over time) wether its worth the extra cost or is even possible given the budget ill leave you to work out for yourself.

but going from 550w to 650w will just give him more flexability in the future, they're only a few bucks more. just stick to big names, corsair, seasonic, be quiet and stay away from brands that sound cheesy "ez-cool", "power-tech" etc.

Falcon: Corsair 750D 8320at4.6ghz 1.3v | 4GB MSI Gaming R9-290 @1000/1250 | 2x8GB 2400mhz Kingston HyperX Beast | Asus ROG Crosshair V Formula | Antec H620 | Corsair RM750w | Crucial M500 240GB, Toshiba 2TB, DarkThemeMasterRace, my G3258 has an upgrade path, my fx8320 doesn't need one...total cost £840=cpu£105, board£65, ram£105, Cooler £20, GPU£200, PSU£88, SSD£75, HDD£57, case£125.

 CASE:-NZXT S340 Black, CPU:-FX8120 @4.2Ghz, COOLER:-CM Hyper 212 EVO, BOARD:-MSI 970 Gaming, RAM:-2x4gb 2400mhz Corsair Vengeance Pro, GPU: SLI EVGA GTX480's @700/1000, PSU:-Corsair CX600m, HDD:-WD green 160GB+2TB toshiba
CASE:-(probably) Cooltek U1, CPU:-G3258 @4.5ghx, COOLER:-stock(soon "MSI Dragon" AiO likely), BOARD:-MSI z87i ITX Gaming, RAM:-1x4gb 1333mhz Patriot, GPU: Asus DCU2 r9-270 OC@1000/1500mem, PSU:-Sweex 350w.., HDD:-WD Caviar Blue 640GB
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 CASE:-Black/Blue Sharkoon T9, CPU:-Phenom2 x4 B55 @3.6Ghz/1.4v, COOLER:-FX8320 Stock HSF, BOARD:-M5A78L-M/USB3, RAM:-4GB 1333mhz Kingston low profile at 1600mhz, GPU:-EVGA GTX285, PSU:-Antec TP550w modu, STORAGE:-240gb  M500+2TB Toshiba
CASE:-icute zl02-3g-bb, CPU:-Phenom2 X6 1055t @3.5Ghz, COOLER:-Stock, BOARD:-Asrock m3a UCC, RAM:2x2GB 1333mhz Zeppelin (thats yellow!), GPU: XFX 1GB HD6870xxx, PSU:-some 450 POS, HDD:-WD Scorpio blue 120GB
CASE:-Packard Bell iMedia X2424, Custom black/red Aerocool Xpredator fulltower, CPU's:-E5200, C2D [email protected]<script cf-hash='f9e31' type="text/javascript"> /* */</script>(so e8500), COOLER:-Scythe Big shuriken2 Rev B, BFG gtx260 sp216 OC, RAM:-tons..
Gigabyte GTX460, Gigabyte gt430,
GPU's:-GT210 1GB,  asus hd6670 1GB gddr5, XFX XXX 9600gt 512mb Alpha dog edition, few q6600's
PICTURES CASE:-CIT mars black+red, CPU:-Athlon K6 650mhz slot A, COOLER:-Stock, BOARD:-QDI Kinetiz 7a, RAM:-256+256+256MB 133mhz SDram, GPU:-inno3d geforce4 mx440 64mb, PSU:-E-Zcool 450w, STORAGE:-2x WD 40gb "black" drives,
CASE:-silver/red raidmax cobra, CPU:-Athlon64 4000+, COOLER:-BIG stock one, BOARD:-MSI something*, RAM:-(matched pair)2x1GB 400mhz ECC transcend, GPU:-ati 9800se@375core/325mem, PSU:-pfft, HDD:-2x maxtor 80gb,
PICTURES CASE:-silver/red raidmax cobra (another), CPU:-Pentium4 2.8ghz prescott, COOLER:-Artic Coolering Freezer4, BOARD:-DFI lanparty infinity 865 R2, RAM:-(matched pair)2x1GB 400mhz kingston, GPU:-ati 9550@375core/325mem, PSU:-pfft, HDD:-another 2x WD 80gb,
CASE:-ML110 G4, CPU:-xeon 4030, COOLER:-stock leaf blower, BOARD:-stock raid 771 board, RAM:-2x2GB 666mhz kingston ECC ddr2, GPU:-9400GT 1GB, PSU:-stock delta, RAID:-JMicron JMB363 card+onboard raid controller, HDD:-320gb hitachi OS, 2xMaxtor 160gb raid1, 500gb samsungSP, 160gb WD, LAPTOP:-Dell n5030, CPU:-replaced s*** cel900 with awesome C2D E8100, RAM:-2x2GB 1333mhz ddr3, HDD:-320gb, PHONE's:-LG optimus 3D (p920) on 2.3.5@300-600mhz de-clock (batteryFTW)
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theres no such thing as "too much" its not going to blow up with a 650w psu...

well, i know that you cant have too much :D

the rest really is something to consider tho... ill discuss it with him ;)

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well, i know that you cant have too much :D

the rest really is something to consider tho... ill discuss it with him ;)

get him to join the forum :D everyone joined at some point and the sooner you join, the sooner you learn.

Falcon: Corsair 750D 8320at4.6ghz 1.3v | 4GB MSI Gaming R9-290 @1000/1250 | 2x8GB 2400mhz Kingston HyperX Beast | Asus ROG Crosshair V Formula | Antec H620 | Corsair RM750w | Crucial M500 240GB, Toshiba 2TB, DarkThemeMasterRace, my G3258 has an upgrade path, my fx8320 doesn't need one...total cost £840=cpu£105, board£65, ram£105, Cooler £20, GPU£200, PSU£88, SSD£75, HDD£57, case£125.

 CASE:-NZXT S340 Black, CPU:-FX8120 @4.2Ghz, COOLER:-CM Hyper 212 EVO, BOARD:-MSI 970 Gaming, RAM:-2x4gb 2400mhz Corsair Vengeance Pro, GPU: SLI EVGA GTX480's @700/1000, PSU:-Corsair CX600m, HDD:-WD green 160GB+2TB toshiba
CASE:-(probably) Cooltek U1, CPU:-G3258 @4.5ghx, COOLER:-stock(soon "MSI Dragon" AiO likely), BOARD:-MSI z87i ITX Gaming, RAM:-1x4gb 1333mhz Patriot, GPU: Asus DCU2 r9-270 OC@1000/1500mem, PSU:-Sweex 350w.., HDD:-WD Caviar Blue 640GB
CASE:-TBD, CPU:-Core2Quad QX9650 @4Ghz, COOLER:-OCZ 92mm tower thing, BOARD:-MSI p43-c51, RAM:-4x1GB 800mhz Corsair XMS2, GPU: Zotac GTX460se @800/1000, PSU:-OCZ600sxs, HDD:-WD green 160GBBlueJean-A
 CASE:-Black/Blue Sharkoon T9, CPU:-Phenom2 x4 B55 @3.6Ghz/1.4v, COOLER:-FX8320 Stock HSF, BOARD:-M5A78L-M/USB3, RAM:-4GB 1333mhz Kingston low profile at 1600mhz, GPU:-EVGA GTX285, PSU:-Antec TP550w modu, STORAGE:-240gb  M500+2TB Toshiba
CASE:-icute zl02-3g-bb, CPU:-Phenom2 X6 1055t @3.5Ghz, COOLER:-Stock, BOARD:-Asrock m3a UCC, RAM:2x2GB 1333mhz Zeppelin (thats yellow!), GPU: XFX 1GB HD6870xxx, PSU:-some 450 POS, HDD:-WD Scorpio blue 120GB
CASE:-Packard Bell iMedia X2424, Custom black/red Aerocool Xpredator fulltower, CPU's:-E5200, C2D [email protected]<script cf-hash='f9e31' type="text/javascript"> /* */</script>(so e8500), COOLER:-Scythe Big shuriken2 Rev B, BFG gtx260 sp216 OC, RAM:-tons..
Gigabyte GTX460, Gigabyte gt430,
GPU's:-GT210 1GB,  asus hd6670 1GB gddr5, XFX XXX 9600gt 512mb Alpha dog edition, few q6600's
PICTURES CASE:-CIT mars black+red, CPU:-Athlon K6 650mhz slot A, COOLER:-Stock, BOARD:-QDI Kinetiz 7a, RAM:-256+256+256MB 133mhz SDram, GPU:-inno3d geforce4 mx440 64mb, PSU:-E-Zcool 450w, STORAGE:-2x WD 40gb "black" drives,
CASE:-silver/red raidmax cobra, CPU:-Athlon64 4000+, COOLER:-BIG stock one, BOARD:-MSI something*, RAM:-(matched pair)2x1GB 400mhz ECC transcend, GPU:-ati 9800se@375core/325mem, PSU:-pfft, HDD:-2x maxtor 80gb,
PICTURES CASE:-silver/red raidmax cobra (another), CPU:-Pentium4 2.8ghz prescott, COOLER:-Artic Coolering Freezer4, BOARD:-DFI lanparty infinity 865 R2, RAM:-(matched pair)2x1GB 400mhz kingston, GPU:-ati 9550@375core/325mem, PSU:-pfft, HDD:-another 2x WD 80gb,
CASE:-ML110 G4, CPU:-xeon 4030, COOLER:-stock leaf blower, BOARD:-stock raid 771 board, RAM:-2x2GB 666mhz kingston ECC ddr2, GPU:-9400GT 1GB, PSU:-stock delta, RAID:-JMicron JMB363 card+onboard raid controller, HDD:-320gb hitachi OS, 2xMaxtor 160gb raid1, 500gb samsungSP, 160gb WD, LAPTOP:-Dell n5030, CPU:-replaced s*** cel900 with awesome C2D E8100, RAM:-2x2GB 1333mhz ddr3, HDD:-320gb, PHONE's:-LG optimus 3D (p920) on 2.3.5@300-600mhz de-clock (batteryFTW)
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