xps 15

[TheBean]

I am planning to buy a dell xps 15 7590 (new model). it has supposedly fixed many of the issues with the 9570. 

So, now I am choosing a configuration. 

should I choose the 9300h+gtx1650 for ~1350usd

or

should I get the 9750h+gtx1650 for ~1500usd

 

all other specs are the same. I will be a college student studying computer science and engineering. I dont know if I need the extra 2c/4t for that. 

[Akira Shimazu]

want to save money go 9300h. want more demand power go the other

 

simple.

[TheBean]

1 minute ago, Wolfycapt said:

want to save money go 9300h. want more demand power go the other

 

simple.

I have seen reports that the cooling solution is different for each cpu variant. would the 9300h need the vrm cooling? (9750h has vrm cooling, 9300h does not)

[Akira Shimazu]

as long as you didnt do super editing or working. even no fan its okay

[TheBean]

@GeneXiS_X What do you think?

[5x5]

The VRM heatsink is only full on the i9 models. So the i7 has the worst throttling issues out of all configurations. Whichever one you choose, you will suffer from severe GPU throttling however as Dell have placed a hard cap in the bios at 75c where the GPU goes down to 1000mhz or so reducing performance below that of a 1050 normal card.

[schwellmo92]

15 minutes ago, 5x5 said:

The VRM heatsink is only full on the i9 models. So the i7 has the worst throttling issues out of all configurations. Whichever one you choose, you will suffer from severe GPU throttling however as Dell have placed a hard cap in the bios at 75c where the GPU goes down to 1000mhz or so reducing performance below that of a 1050 normal card.

1125Mhz according to this https://www.notebookcheck.net/Dell-pushes-out-BIOS-update-for-XPS-15-7590-to-fix-GPU-throttling-issue.428456.0.html

 

Would still be much faster than a 1050, the 1650 has 896 cuda cores vs the 1050's 640. The 1650 also only throttles in combined CPU+GPU loads.

[5x5]

5 minutes ago, schwellmo92 said:

1125Mhz according to this https://www.notebookcheck.net/Dell-pushes-out-BIOS-update-for-XPS-15-7590-to-fix-GPU-throttling-issue.428456.0.html

 

Would still be much faster than a 1050, the 1650 has 896 cuda cores vs the 1050's 640. The 1650 also only throttles in combined CPU+GPU loads.

So basically anytime you need it for work...

 

It's not faster than a properly boosting 1050 - those can easily reach 1700MHz - the extra 30% CUDA cores have a hard time compensating for a ~50% clockspeed reduction.

[genexis_x]

34 minutes ago, Saksham said:

@GeneXiS_X What do you think?

Don't get 9570/7590. Told you many times. iGPU model is OK but who wants it

[TheBean]

2 hours ago, GeneXiS_X said:

Don't get 9570/7590. Told you many times. iGPU model is OK but who wants it

what is the difference in x1 extreme gen1 and gen 2?

[schwellmo92]

10 hours ago, 5x5 said:

So basically anytime you need it for work...

 

It's not faster than a properly boosting 1050 - those can easily reach 1700MHz - the extra 30% CUDA cores have a hard time compensating for a ~50% clockspeed reduction.

Every thin and light work machine throttles under combined sustained loads. I don’t really see it as an issue, I am not often doing high utilisation combined CPU+GPU loads at work, and if I do so what if it throttles a little bit?

 

Also, the 1650 is significantly better. It’s showing a 40% uplift in FS https://imgur.com/gallery/mBuFciP

[genexis_x]

8 hours ago, Saksham said:

what is the difference in x1 extreme gen1 and gen 2?

Mainly updated specs

[TheBean]

edit: didnt work. ignore

[JimDawson]

I'd go for the i7 personally as it's not as simple as 2 cores 4 threads, it has much more CPU L3 cache too.

[adman29]

Wait. Why is this post in networking?

[TheBean]

8 hours ago, adman29 said:

Wait. Why is this post in networking?

accident. i was gonna post about something else, then changed to this. forgot i wasin thee wrong sub