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CPU:  AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor  ($139.99 @ TigerDirect) 
Motherboard:  MSI 760GM-P34(FX) Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard  ($53.66 @ Newegg) 
Storage:  Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk  ($89.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card:  EVGA GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card  ($529.99 @ Newegg) 
Case:  Corsair 350D Window MicroATX Mid Tower Case  ($79.99 @ Newegg) 
Operating System:  Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit)  ($91.77 @ Amazon) 
Total: $1288.33
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
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I chose AMD instead of Intel, completely based on price. The 8320 had a very nice sale, and was purchased for a hundred dollars less than the i5.

 

I went Micro ATX, because I didn't see a real compelling reason not to, and if I can make it smaller, I will.

 

1866 mhz ram, for the speed, and also because it didn't cost much extra.

 

350D because it's beautiful, and a cheaper case wouldn't have saved much, yet would have been more flimsy (normally).

 

I also chose the case, because it has a window. If you check out the parts list, you'll notice that everything is matching, (I worked hard on that :P), nice and blue, and beautiful. My parents keep their computer in a common area, and I want it to be praised.

 

 

 

My reason for the 8320 also has to do with AutoCAD. After talking with  my parents (mostly my mom), I found a bit of information that would have been nice from the start...

She doesn't do much on it! She does very basic things on it, once a month maybe... So It wasn't really something I should have prioritized for. 

 

Either way, Thanks for all of the help guys, you helped me get a better system for my parents, and a better GPU for myself :D

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Hello again, one and all. Today, I finally get to replace my parents 10 year old Dell tower!

 

Budget and Location:

My budget for this build is right around $1200 after rebates (I'll explain a little bit more once we get to the parts)

I live in the US, so pricing is based off of the USD.

 

Aim:

The aim for this system comes in a little differently than most parents. My mom uses Autocad on a regular basis for her work, and needs to be able to run it fluidly.

Besides that, my parents do very light gaming, internet, and email. So nothing major.

 

Monitors:

Now even though my parents don't have a heavy workload, they would like multiple monitors (2). Between working with Microsoft documents, and with the internet and other files, they want to have more real estate.

Nothing special in the way of monitors though, they want two 24 inch 1080p monitors.

 

Peripherals: 

They already have all they need.

 

Why are they upgrading:

Their computer is on its deathbed, and they don't want to be left without.

 

And now, the part everyone came for, Parts.

 

Parts:

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CPU:  AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor  ($119.99 @ Newegg) 
CPU Cooler:  Corsair H110 94.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($99.99 @ Newegg) 
Motherboard:  Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD3 ATX AM3+ Motherboard  ($124.99 @ Microcenter) 
Memory:  Kingston Black 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($159.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage:  Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk  ($89.00 @ Amazon) 
Video Card:  EVGA GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card  ($347.28 @ NCIX US) 
Case:  BitFenix Shinobi Window ATX Mid Tower Case  ($49.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply:  Corsair CX 600W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($54.99 @ Microcenter) 
Operating System:  Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit)  ($84.99 @ NCIX US) 
Total: $1156.20
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
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Rational behind parts:
CPU: I chose this CPU because I wanted to help make their computer a little more future proof than a cheaper one would have. A step down was a 4 core, and this wasn't that much more expensive.
Cooler: I chose an all in one liquid cooler for its heat dissipation. I know this CPU won't run that hot, but I want to be able to under volt the fans, and make it quiet.
Motherboard: I chose this motherboard, because it's loaded with features, and I generally couldn't find a reason to go with something cheaper. They appeared to have terrible reviews under this price bracket.
Memory: 16gb based on my moms request for Autocad, 1600mhz for decent performance if my dad ever plays a game on it (He plays Sometimes.)
Storage: the SSD is the boot drive (duh), and the HDD is the storage. Pretty self explanatory
Video Card: Now, I know you all read through the list, and went... Wait... What? 770? For this? The answer is a little more complicated. That card wouldn't be for this build, but rather my own. I'm paying them a bit of cash, and giving them a MSI Twin Frozr 2 7850 to run their two monitors.
Case: I chose it because I liked the aesthetics.
Power Supply: Corsair is a known, trusted brand, and this power supply is bronze certified, and semi-modular. Also, very inexpensive.
OS: I don't like Windows 8, neither do my parents.
 
 
Please post questions, comments, concerns down below! Thank you!
 

Case: Lian Li PC011-D - CPU: 3900x - GPU: 2080ti Reference - Mobo: Gigabyte - Ram: Corsair 4x16gb 3200MHz - SSD: 2TB Samsung Evo NVME

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If you really want to future proof, go for an Intel quad core. It's just more powerful in most ways.

 

The cooler will not work with the case. I own one, and I would know.

 

16GB is overkill, even for AutoCAD.

 

The watercooler is complete overkill and less reliable than air cooling.

 

Get a Seagate Barracuda if it's cheaper.

 

The motherboard is overkill.

 

AutoCAD can take advantage of CUDA, so it's something to consider.

 

The OS is outdated.

 

I do like that 770 though.

Main Rig: CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5700X3D | RAM: 32GB (2x16GB) KLEVV CRAS XR RGB DDR4-3600 | Motherboard: Gigabyte B550I AORUS PRO AX | Storage: 500GB Crucial P3 Plus, 4TB Silicon Power UD90 | GPU: AsRock Radeon RX 9070 XT Steel Legend | Cooling: ThermalTake Floe 280mm w/ be quiet! Pure Wings 3 | Case: Sliger SM580 (Black) | PSU: Corsair SF850

Main Server: CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 5950X | RAM: 64GB (2x32GB) Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4-3200 | Motherboard: ASUS Crosshair VII Hero WiFi | Storage: 512GB SKHynix NVMe | GPUs: NVIDIA TITAN Xp 2-way SLI | Cooling: Thermalright Frozen Prism 360mm | Case: Corsair 5000D Airflow (White) | PSU: Seasonic Focus GM850

File and Media Server (AOOSTAR WTR Pro): CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5825U | RAM: 32GB (2x16GB) Silicon Power DDR4-3200 SODIMMs | Storage: 1TB Samsung 970 EVO Plus, 2x14TB Western Digital Ultrastar DC HC530

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autocad + cuda = smart. So that's something good you've kept in mind where as I'm not sure about the fx 6300, maybe go for an i5 3470 which will more then likely last her longer then a fx 6300. The 6300 is already sort of getting outdated in some occasions and that case is awesome! I've got one myself and planning on modding it at some point, it's just made to be modded! You could also maybe buy the case custom mesh strips to give it that extra 'kick' 

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The 3470 is $80 more than the 6300... is there a cheaper alternative that will still outrank the 6300?

Case: Lian Li PC011-D - CPU: 3900x - GPU: 2080ti Reference - Mobo: Gigabyte - Ram: Corsair 4x16gb 3200MHz - SSD: 2TB Samsung Evo NVME

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(I'm finding prices from Pcpartpicker)

All of the i5 CPU's are over 160 bucks at minimum.

Case: Lian Li PC011-D - CPU: 3900x - GPU: 2080ti Reference - Mobo: Gigabyte - Ram: Corsair 4x16gb 3200MHz - SSD: 2TB Samsung Evo NVME

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The 3470 is $80 more than the 6300... is there a cheaper alternative that will still outrank the 6300?

a i5 3330 is around £40 more so I'd say maybe go for that and btw maybe you could drop down on mobo costs? a gigabyte z77-ds3h and 3470 would I believe turn out to be cheaper

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I would love to get it from Microcenter, but its in store only, and I don't live anywhere near one.

Case: Lian Li PC011-D - CPU: 3900x - GPU: 2080ti Reference - Mobo: Gigabyte - Ram: Corsair 4x16gb 3200MHz - SSD: 2TB Samsung Evo NVME

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(I'm finding prices from Pcpartpicker)

All of the i5 CPU's are over 160 bucks at minimum.

 
CPU:  Intel Core i5-4440 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($186.99 @ NCIX US) 
Motherboard:  MSI Z87-G41 PC Mate ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($69.99 @ Microcenter) 
Storage:  Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk  ($89.00 @ Amazon) 
Video Card:  EVGA GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card  ($499.99 @ Newegg) 
Case:  Rosewill REDBONE ATX Mid Tower Case  ($34.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply:  Corsair CX 600W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($54.99 @ Microcenter) 
Operating System:  Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit)  ($97.98 @ OutletPC) 
Total: $1163.58
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-01-29 06:56 EST-0500)
 
 
A better overall system and you get a 780 as well.

Main Rig: CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5700X3D | RAM: 32GB (2x16GB) KLEVV CRAS XR RGB DDR4-3600 | Motherboard: Gigabyte B550I AORUS PRO AX | Storage: 500GB Crucial P3 Plus, 4TB Silicon Power UD90 | GPU: AsRock Radeon RX 9070 XT Steel Legend | Cooling: ThermalTake Floe 280mm w/ be quiet! Pure Wings 3 | Case: Sliger SM580 (Black) | PSU: Corsair SF850

Main Server: CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 5950X | RAM: 64GB (2x32GB) Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4-3200 | Motherboard: ASUS Crosshair VII Hero WiFi | Storage: 512GB SKHynix NVMe | GPUs: NVIDIA TITAN Xp 2-way SLI | Cooling: Thermalright Frozen Prism 360mm | Case: Corsair 5000D Airflow (White) | PSU: Seasonic Focus GM850

File and Media Server (AOOSTAR WTR Pro): CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5825U | RAM: 32GB (2x16GB) Silicon Power DDR4-3200 SODIMMs | Storage: 1TB Samsung 970 EVO Plus, 2x14TB Western Digital Ultrastar DC HC530

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If you guys can recommend a cheaper MB for the 8320 though, It's not much more expensive than the 6300.

 

Also, can you explain why you're pushing a low end i5? It's much more expensive (relatively), and doesn't out perform that much based on Benchmarks. Also, I can overclock the AMD chip much more (being that its unlocked)

Case: Lian Li PC011-D - CPU: 3900x - GPU: 2080ti Reference - Mobo: Gigabyte - Ram: Corsair 4x16gb 3200MHz - SSD: 2TB Samsung Evo NVME

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Much appreciation btw! Helping me look at things I kind of overlooked, or didn't really consider!

Case: Lian Li PC011-D - CPU: 3900x - GPU: 2080ti Reference - Mobo: Gigabyte - Ram: Corsair 4x16gb 3200MHz - SSD: 2TB Samsung Evo NVME

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CPU:  Intel Core i5-4440 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($186.99 @ NCIX US) 
Motherboard:  MSI Z87-G41 PC Mate ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($69.99 @ Microcenter) 
Storage:  Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk  ($89.00 @ Amazon) 
Video Card:  EVGA GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card  ($499.99 @ Newegg) 
Case:  Rosewill REDBONE ATX Mid Tower Case  ($34.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply:  Corsair CX 600W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($54.99 @ Microcenter) 
Operating System:  Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit)  ($97.98 @ OutletPC) 
Total: $1163.58
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-01-29 06:56 EST-0500)
 
 
A better overall system and you get a 780 as well.

 

No what happened to the shinobi! the main reason I'm supporting op is because of his case choice. joking :P I myself care about appearances so that case is a nono to me

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CPU:  Intel Core i5-4440 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($186.99 @ NCIX US) 
Motherboard:  MSI Z87-G41 PC Mate ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($69.99 @ Microcenter) 
Storage:  Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk  ($89.00 @ Amazon) 
Video Card:  EVGA GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card  ($499.99 @ Newegg) 
Case:  Rosewill REDBONE ATX Mid Tower Case  ($34.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply:  Corsair CX 600W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($54.99 @ Microcenter) 
Operating System:  Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit)  ($97.98 @ OutletPC) 
Total: $1163.58
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-01-29 06:56 EST-0500)
 
 
A better overall system and you get a 780 as well.

 

With adding the CPU cooler, this build bumps 100 dollars. As awesome as it sounds to have a 780, I don't want to screw my parents over to get it... Just trying to get the best bang for my buck.

Case: Lian Li PC011-D - CPU: 3900x - GPU: 2080ti Reference - Mobo: Gigabyte - Ram: Corsair 4x16gb 3200MHz - SSD: 2TB Samsung Evo NVME

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CPU:  AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor  ($155.57 @ Amazon) 

CPU Cooler:  Corsair H110 94.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($99.99 @ Newegg) 

Motherboard:  Gigabyte GA-970A-D3P ATX AM3+/AM3 Motherboard  ($82.99 @ Newegg) 


Storage:  Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk  ($89.00 @ Amazon) 


Video Card:  EVGA GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card  ($347.28 @ NCIX US) 

Case:  BitFenix Shinobi Window ATX Mid Tower Case  ($49.99 @ Newegg) 

Power Supply:  Corsair CX 600W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($54.99 @ Microcenter) 

Operating System:  Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit)  ($84.99 @ NCIX US) 

Total: $1129.78

(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-01-29 07:12 EST-0500)

 

Comments? Anywhere else I can shave off some cash?

Case: Lian Li PC011-D - CPU: 3900x - GPU: 2080ti Reference - Mobo: Gigabyte - Ram: Corsair 4x16gb 3200MHz - SSD: 2TB Samsung Evo NVME

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CPU:  AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor  ($155.57 @ Amazon) 

CPU Cooler:  Corsair H110 94.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($99.99 @ Newegg) 

Motherboard:  Gigabyte GA-970A-D3P ATX AM3+/AM3 Motherboard  ($82.99 @ Newegg) 

Memory:  G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($139.99 @ Newegg) 

Storage:  Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk  ($89.00 @ Amazon) 

Storage:  Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($59.99 @ Amazon) 

Video Card:  EVGA GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card  ($347.28 @ NCIX US) 

Case:  BitFenix Shinobi Window ATX Mid Tower Case  ($49.99 @ Newegg) 

Power Supply:  Corsair CX 600W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($54.99 @ Microcenter) 

Operating System:  Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit)  ($84.99 @ NCIX US) 

Total: $1129.78

(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-01-29 07:12 EST-0500)

 

Comments? Anywhere else I can shave off some cash?

I'm not encouraging you to do so, I don't even want you to do so because that would be against the CoC, but there are ways to obtain windows for free at ease with no cracking involved. I'm just pointing out that it's possible

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I'm not encouraging you to do so, I don't even want you to do so because that would be against the CoC, but there are ways to obtain windows for free at ease with no cracking involved. I'm just pointing out that it's possible

shhhh, watch out, the nsa could be watching you  :lol:

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i know i use many of these: ( ) and these: ... (i really do... (sry...) ) edit: and edits

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One thing i would like to point out: if your parents don't get the meaning of having a seperate hdd and ssd, you could consider a hybrid. (i don't know your parents so i can't tell)

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i know i use many of these: ( ) and these: ... (i really do... (sry...) ) edit: and edits

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CPU:  Intel Core i5-4430 3.0GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($184.98 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler:  Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($29.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard:  Gigabyte GA-B85M-HD3 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($69.99 @ Amazon)
Memory:  PNY XLR8 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($124.99 @ Amazon)
Storage:  Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk  ($89.00 @ Amazon)
Storage:  Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($59.66 @ OutletPC)
Video Card:  MSI GeForce GTX 660 2GB Video Card  ($159.99 @ Newegg)
Case:  Cooler Master N200 MicroATX Mid Tower Case  ($44.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply:  Corsair CX 500W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System:  Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit)  ($84.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $883.56
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
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Get this instead. The i5 is much better then the AMD counterpart. Sell your 7850. You can get a decent amount for it because of the litecoin miners. I suppose around $100/150 is very doable. I see them on ebay for $114 cheapest and often around the $200-300 mark lol. Then buy a 780.
You of course have to talk with your parents about this. But I would do this instead. The 7850 isn't awesome for autocad.  

 

If you guys can recommend a cheaper MB for the 8320 though, It's not much more expensive than the 6300.

 

Also, can you explain why you're pushing a low end i5? It's much more expensive (relatively), and doesn't out perform that much based on Benchmarks. Also, I can overclock the AMD chip much more (being that its unlocked)

 

What benchmarks are you looking at? Games vs AutoCAD is something very different. 

 

For your current build. H110 is pointless. I would suggest intel over AMD for AutoCAD. Try to talk them out of getting 16GB of RAM. You should use task manager when they are using autoCAD and then look at the amount of RAM used. 

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shhhh, watch out, the nsa could be watching you  :lol:

nothing to worry about, it's not like they actually are standing behind me or something like that......

Later that day the poster got send to jail for lifetime in a interrogation chamber.
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CPU:  Intel Core i5-4430 3.0GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($184.98 @ SuperBiiz)

CPU Cooler:  Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($29.98 @ OutletPC)

Motherboard:  Gigabyte GA-B85M-HD3 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($69.99 @ Amazon)

Memory:  PNY XLR8 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($124.99 @ Amazon)

Storage:  Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk  ($89.00 @ Amazon)

Storage:  Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($59.66 @ OutletPC)

Video Card:  MSI GeForce GTX 660 2GB Video Card  ($159.99 @ Newegg)

Case:  Cooler Master N200 MicroATX Mid Tower Case  ($44.99 @ NCIX US)

Power Supply:  Corsair CX 500W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($34.99 @ Newegg)

Operating System:  Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit)  ($84.99 @ NCIX US)

Total: $883.56

(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

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Get this instead. The i5 is much better then the AMD counterpart. Sell your 7850. You can get a decent amount for it because of the litecoin miners. I suppose around $100/150 is very doable. I see them on ebay for $114 cheapest and often around the $200-300 mark lol. Then buy a 780.

You of course have to talk with your parents about this. But I would do this instead. The 7850 isn't awesome for autocad.  

 

 

What benchmarks are you looking at? Games vs AutoCAD is something very different. 

 

For your current build. H110 is pointless. I would suggest intel over AMD for AutoCAD. Try to talk them out of getting 16GB of RAM. You should use task manager when they are using autoCAD and then look at the amount of RAM used. 

For now, I'm going to stick with the 7850, I'll give them the recommendation to sell, but that won't really be part of it right now.

As for the RAM, they're pretty set on it. I'll look into the 212 Evo though for the cooler, I've seen it a lot, and this chip won't be getting that hot I suppose.

Case: Lian Li PC011-D - CPU: 3900x - GPU: 2080ti Reference - Mobo: Gigabyte - Ram: Corsair 4x16gb 3200MHz - SSD: 2TB Samsung Evo NVME

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