picking for CPU

[JohnCarlHenry]

I building a pc and I'm currently picking between a Ryzen 3 3200G and a Ryzen 5 3400G 

the build will be used for gaming(apex legends, LoL, Fortnite,Oxygen not included) and video editing(blender)

is the increase from a Ryzen 3 3200G to a Ryzen 5 3400G gonna be worth the extra cost? (Ryzen 3 3200G is USD 54 less than Ryzen 5 3400G)

[Jurrunio]

what about 2200g and 2400g? There isn't much of an improvement to 3200g and 3400g since they are only Zen+

[Billy Pilgrim]

10 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

There isn't much of an improvement to 3200g and 3400g since they are only Zen+

The 3200g has much more overclocking headroom

[Jurrunio]

7 minutes ago, Billy Pilgrim said:

The 3200g has much more overclocking headroom

it doesn't. It might be soldered but 14nm quad core is cool enough in the first place and paste is fine there.

[JohnCarlHenry]

10 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

what about 2200g and 2400g? There isn't much of an improvement to 3200g and 3400g since they are only Zen+

thank you for the reply

 

I also think 2400g could be a better choice than a 3200G but I don't think a 2200G would hold up to new games (I mean it can play it but I think it would be barely playable... I think, not quite sure on that one)

(I'm using this vid as reference)

[Jurrunio]

32 minutes ago, JohnCarlHenry said:

 

(I'm using this vid as reference)

something has gone catastrophically wrong with his testing then

On paper the 3200G has Zen+ instead of Zen for 5% IPC gain and another 5% frequency gain in the CPU part with the exact same GPU. Frequency could be different but that's it, nothing to boast about when they are both overclockable. I have no idea how the video you linked found this much difference between 2200g and 3200g.

[jerubedo]

For the same price as the 3400g you can get the 9400F which will perform a LOT better in games and slightly better in video editing.

[GoldenLag]

10 minutes ago, jerubedo said:

For the same price as the 3400g you can get the 9400F which will perform a LOT better in games and slightly better in video editing.

Too bad the 9400f doesnt have a GPU.....

 

6 hours ago, JohnCarlHenry said:

building a pc

No GPU?  What budget?

[jerubedo]

1 minute ago, GoldenLag said:

Too bad the 9400f doesnt have a GPU.....

I'm assuming he has a GPU, but it would indeed be helpful if he posted his build.

[GoldenLag]

4 minutes ago, jerubedo said:

I'm assuming he has a GPU, but it would indeed be helpful if he posted his build.

If he has a GPU, then the 9400f again wouldnt be the correct choice to go with.....

 

2600, costs less, you have HT for blending and not falling into the known trap of non-ht CPUs

[jerubedo]

19 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

If he has a GPU, then the 9400f again wouldnt be the correct choice to go with.....

 

2600, costs less, you have HT for blending and not falling into the known trap of non-ht CPUs

The price point stated is $150, not $200. At that price point the choices are: The 1200, 2200g, 2400g, 3200g, 3400g, 9400F, 9100F, and the 8100. Out of those, the 6 core part will always beat the 4 core 8 thread part with a few rare exceptions (and in those exceptions they really perform functionally the same).

[Princess Luna]

@jerubedo and @GoldenLag

 

Before any discussion in here, I honest believe we should first make sure OP has a dGPU, if he does then an APU is obviously out of question, if he does need the APU however the 2400G and 3400G aren't that much apart one another and should be the only two CPU to be consider since Intel has no integrated graphics solution on pair with it.

[jerubedo]

1 minute ago, Princess Luna said:

@jerubedo and @GoldenLag

 

Before any discussion in here, I honest believe we should first make sure OP has a dGPU, if he does then an APU is obviously out of question, if he does need the APU however the 2400G and 3400G aren't that much apart one another and should be the only two CPU to be discussing about since Intel has no integrated graphics solution on pair with it.

Yep, I'd agree with all of that  

[GoldenLag]

6 minutes ago, jerubedo said:

The price point stated is $150, not $209. At that price point the choices are: The 2200g, 2400g, 3200g, 3400g, 9400F, 9100F, 8100. Out of those, the 6 core part will always beat the 4 core 8 thread part with a few rare exceptions (and in those exceptions they really perform functionally the same).

R5 2600 is ~130$.......

[another_member]

2 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

R5 2600 is ~130$.......

Hes right.

[jerubedo]

4 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

R5 2600 is ~130$.......

Oh whoops, I was looking at the 2700 instead of the 2600. I just got both my wisdom teeth removed a few hours ago so I might still be drugged lol. Anyway, sure the 2600 will do better in the rendering department, but the 9400F will do better in the gaming department. That would be a choice the OP will need to make   I'd probably lean 2600 for a mixed load, though.

[GoldenLag]

1 minute ago, jerubedo said:

but the 9400F will do better in the gaming department.

Um yeah. The lack of HT isnt worth kt for gaming. 

[jerubedo]

1 minute ago, GoldenLag said:

Um yeah. The lack of HT isnt worth kt for gaming. 

Yeah, I said I'd lean 2600 for a mixed load.

[GoldenLag]

2 minutes ago, jerubedo said:

Yeah, I said I'd lean 2600 for a mixed load.

Yeah, we have a very different view on this.

[GoldenLag]

6 hours ago, JohnCarlHenry said:

building a pc and I'm currently picking between a Ryzen 3 3200G and a Ryzen 5 3400G 

So is there any GPU involved or not?

[JohnCarlHenry]

Just now, GoldenLag said:

So is there any GPU involved or not?

I won't be using a dedicated GPU

[JohnCarlHenry]

Just now, GoldenLag said:

Too bad the 9400f doesnt have a GPU.....

 

No GPU?  What budget?

 

Just now, jerubedo said:

I'm assuming he has a GPU, but it would indeed be helpful if he posted his build.

the budget is roughly USD 555.56

 

the current build as it currently is:

Ryzen 5 2400G or Ryzen 5 3400G

Motherboard:
MSI B450M Bazooka plus
Memory:
G.Skill trident Z 16 gb dual channel 3200Mhz
Storage:
Seagate Barracuda SSD 250GB
PSU:
CoolerMaster MWE 650W 80+ Bronze
Case:
AeroCool Cylon Mid Tower Casing
 

[jerubedo]

2 hours ago, JohnCarlHenry said:

I won't be using a dedicated GPU

The 3400g gets my vote then 

[GoldenLag]

9 hours ago, JohnCarlHenry said:

CoolerMaster MWE 650W 80+ Bronze

Swap for cx 550

Otherwise its fine.