first time build What Parts Should i use for my first pc?

[Terminal.exe]

7 hours ago, fasauceome said:

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Ft6qqs/asrock-x570-steel-legend-atx-am4-motherboard-x570-steel-legend

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/zBfmP6/bitfenix-formula-gold-550w-80-gold-certified-atx-power-supply-bp-fm550ulag-7r

 

 

Hey i was looking into some motherboards and you seem like you know what you're doing. do any of these look good?

 

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813157886?Description=x570&cm_re=x570-_-13-157-886-_-Product pretty cheap and has some good features

 

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813119197?Description=x570&cm_re=x570-_-13-119-197-_-Product cheapest wifi board with some good features but its asus

 

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813157885 the board you recommended, but its a little on the expensive side

 

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813145161?Item=N82E16813145161&Description=x570&cm_re=x570-_-13-145-161-_-Product cheap option with less features

 

id like to keep it under 200, but advice?

[kalizy12]

I'd save on the mobo and buy a b450 tomahawk, it's abt 100$ less and supports 3rd gen ryzen.

Buy the 1660ti Since the RTX series are still in an infant state and also an expensive one, the rx5700 has problems with gen4 from what i've seen so wait til amd fixes it.

 

The RAM frequency speeds are good if you go for the x570 but if you go for a b450 due to budget reasons u better go for a 3200 one

 

Pick up the 650w PSU, gen4 mobos seem to suck a lot of juice.

 

[Terminal.exe]

2 minutes ago, kalizy12 said:

I'd save on the mobo and buy a b450 tomahawk, it's abt 100$ less and supports 3rd gen ryzen.

Buy the 1660ti Since the RTX series are still in an infant state and also an expensive one, the rx5700 has problems with gen4 from what i've seen so wait til amd fixes it.

 

The RAM frequency speeds are good if you go for the x570 but if you go for a b450 due to budget reasons u better go for a 3200 one

 

Pick up the 650w PSU, gen4 mobos seem to suck a lot of juice.

 

Thank you for your input. I will consider your suggestions.

[Fasauceome]

1 hour ago, Terminal.exe said:

 

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813157886?Description=x570&cm_re=x570-_-13-157-886-_-Product pretty cheap and has some good features

Of these, I'd pick this one. The Pro4 line has been ASRock's budget champion, usually favoring power delivery over all else.

[Terminal.exe]

1 hour ago, fasauceome said:

Of these, I'd pick this one. The Pro4 line has been ASRock's budget champion, usually favoring power delivery over all else.

Ok cool. tysm

[Terminal.exe]

1 hour ago, fasauceome said:

Of these, I'd pick this one. The Pro4 line has been ASRock's budget champion, usually favoring power delivery over all else.

but the steel legend dropped in price. should i get that instead?

[Mathieu9836]

11 hours ago, kalizy12 said:

I'd save on the mobo and buy a b450 tomahawk, it's abt 100$ less and supports 3rd gen ryzen.

Buy the 1660ti Since the RTX series are still in an infant state and also an expensive one, the rx5700 has problems with gen4 from what i've seen so wait til amd fixes it.

 

The RAM frequency speeds are good if you go for the x570 but if you go for a b450 due to budget reasons u better go for a 3200 one

 

Pick up the 650w PSU, gen4 mobos seem to suck a lot of juice.

 

Why get a cheap B450 over a X470 that are usually better featured?

The GTX 1660ti is a very slow GPU compared to the RX 5700. The RX 5700 is at its first step and drivers will improve in the next month or two. I wouldn't buy a 1660ti and wait until Radeon drivers are better, just wait for 3rd party RX 5700 cards with better cooling.

Ram speed is related the CPU's Ram controller and the RAM speed itself, i don't think it as a lot to do with the chipset since have don't have enough experience yet with faster RAM on slower CPU/chipset.

 

Whats is you total budget if you have one?

What do you NEED?

What do you want about your build?

Can you wait to buy parts or you need them ASAP?

Buying cheaper parts right now to upgrade later cost more then waiting to buy what you really want, trust me about that i'm in that situation.

[Fasauceome]

9 hours ago, Terminal.exe said:

but the steel legend dropped in price. should i get that instead?

A higher end mobo on sale is always a good deal

[Mathieu9836]

6 minutes ago, fasauceome said:

A higher end mobo on sale is always a good deal

The Steel Legend is the entry level board, It's probably a 4 phases with doublers or 4 paralell phases + 2 SOC phases, good X470 boards will have a better VRM. Unless it's very cheap, i needed PCIe gen 4 or needed X570 chipset because i don't own a previous generation CPU, i would get a good X470 over that board.

[Fasauceome]

1 minute ago, Mathieu9836 said:

needed X570 chipset because i don't own a previous generation CPU

That's probably a good case for the tomahawk or something with BIOS flashback

[Terminal.exe]

1 hour ago, Mathieu9836 said:

The Steel Legend is the entry level board, It's probably a 4 phases with doublers or 4 paralell phases + 2 SOC phases, good X470 boards will have a better VRM. Unless it's very cheap, i needed PCIe gen 4 or needed X570 chipset because i don't own a previous generation CPU, i would get a good X470 over that board.

um i’m talking about the x570 steel legend with 10 power phases lol

[Mathieu9836]

6 minutes ago, Terminal.exe said:

um i’m talking about the x570 steel legend with 10 power phases lol

4 phases times 2 (becauses they use doublers or parrallel phases) equal 8, then you had the 2 SOC phases, thats 4*2+2= 10 phases. Thats how they fool people with their phases. Some doubled phases are worst then REAL single phases, Gigabyte showed that with the B450/X470 chipset.

[Terminal.exe]

3 minutes ago, Mathieu9836 said:

4 phases times 2 (becauses they use doublers or parrallel phases) equal 8, then you had the 2 SOC phases, thats 4*2+2= 10 phases. Thats how they fool people with their phases. Some doubled phases are worst then REAL single phases, Gigabyte showed that with the B450/X470 chipset.

oh ok. well do you have a x570 recommendation?

[Mathieu9836]

1 minute ago, Terminal.exe said:

oh ok. well do you have a x570 recommendation?

What do you really need and what are the features you are looking for? what is your budget?

 

[Terminal.exe]

5 minutes ago, Mathieu9836 said:

What do you really need and what are the features you are looking for? what is your budget?

 

ok so i’m looking for a good overclocking board cuz i want to crank up my 3600 to its highest potential. looks don’t matter cuz it’s going in a no window case, i’d like it to have a decent amount of usbs, m.2 and if possible wifi. and the budget would be under 200 but under 250 if necessary

[Mathieu9836]

If you can afford the top tier X470 boards like the MSI Pro Carbon, the Gigabyte Ultra gaming 7, Asrock Taichi, that would make great boards for you, but I dont know about the pricing where you live. X570 lack of features make me avoid those ''low end'' boards in favor on better featured X470.

If you go the X570 way, you can take a look at Buildzoid review of these boards PCBs, you will the good and the bads of most of these boards.

 

[Terminal.exe]

1 hour ago, Mathieu9836 said:

If you can afford the top tier X470 boards like the MSI Pro Carbon, the Gigabyte Ultra gaming 7, Asrock Taichi, that would make great boards for you, but I dont know about the pricing where you live. X570 lack of features make me avoid those ''low end'' boards in favor on better featured X470.

If you go the X570 way, you can take a look at Buildzoid review of these boards PCBs, you will the good and the bads of most of these boards.

 

I think I'm going to go for the steel legend. Cuz of this quote "this model also uses a straight forward 10-phase power delivery and includes an 8-pin and 4-pin set of 12 V ATX CPU power inputs to provide power to the processor." https://www.anandtech.com/show/14161/the-amd-x570-motherboard-overview/9 so yeah. if that quote is wrong ill look elsewhere but I want x570.

[Mathieu9836]

Don't get me wrong, but I don't trust those reviewers because they mostly read the Specs on the website and then test these boards with default settings, and there is 3 pages about packaging. Take the time to go see the videos Buildzoid made on YouTube, they are long but very instructive.

[Terminal.exe]

8 minutes ago, Mathieu9836 said:

Don't get me wrong, but I don't trust those reviewers because they mostly read the Specs on the website and then test these boards with default settings, and there is 3 pages about packaging. Take the time to go see the videos Buildzoid made on YouTube, they are long but very instructive.

ok ill look at some videos.

[Terminal.exe]

13 minutes ago, Mathieu9836 said:

Don't get me wrong, but I don't trust those reviewers because they mostly read the Specs on the website and then test these boards with default settings, and there is 3 pages about packaging. Take the time to go see the videos Buildzoid made on YouTube, they are long but very instructive.

he has only done asus so far so ill watch his other videos too.

[Mathieu9836]

Oh i forgot to mention he made videos for Gamers Nexus that may only be available on their channel because you know.... content creation stuff.

[Terminal.exe]

3 hours ago, Mathieu9836 said:

Oh i forgot to mention he made videos for Gamers Nexus that may only be available on their channel because you know.... content creation stuff.

ah ok

[Dedayog]

On 7/9/2019 at 1:01 PM, Terminal.exe said:

Ok, thanks. And you think I shouldn't get an x570 mobo right?

If you don't NEED Gen 3 NVMe right now, you certainly won't need Gen 4 NVMe in a few years.  

 

B450 is all you need, really.

[Terminal.exe]

13 hours ago, Mathieu9836 said:

Oh i forgot to mention he made videos for Gamers Nexus that may only be available on their channel because you know.... content creation stuff.

So I watched buildzoids video on the asus boards and I think i'm going to go with the x570 tuf wifi board, because it has good power delivery for overclocking, its mid range which is good cuz im only getting a 3600, and it has wifi and other nice features. what do you think? 

https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/TUF-GAMING-X570-PLUS-WI-FI/

 

[Mathieu9836]

That should do the trick