B450, X470

[CrazieChipmunk]

If i have not owned a amd cpu prior to launch of the ryzen 3000 and want one, but if possible i would rather not get an x570 because there exspensive,  so does anyone know what older motherboard i have which would boot with the ryzen 3700x in it from bios?

[GoldenLag]

Any MSI board more expencive thsn the B450 tomahawk i believe.

 

So x470 carbon Pro aint half bad. 

 

If you arent Overclocking heavily, just get a Tomahawk

[Mathieu9836]

Any Asus with Flash Bios feature, I guess you can't with Gigabyte Q Flash but i may be wrong. Most motherboard need you to boot into bios, not sure if you will be able to but into with an unsupported CPU

[Herman Mcpootis]

16 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

Any MSI board more expencive thsn the B450 tomahawk i believe.

 

So x470 carbon Pro aint half bad. 

 

If you arent Overclocking heavily, just get a Tomahawk

most of their B450 boards have bios flashing without the CPU like the mortar, gaming plus and B450-A Pro. they only have it on the gaming M7 for X470 boards for some reason.

[Origami Cactus]

This table shows both what cpu you should run in the motherboard, but also if the motherboard has a bios flash feature without the cpu.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1d9_E3h8bLp-TXr-0zTJFqqVxdCR9daIVNyMatydkpFA/htmlview?sle=true#gid=639584818

[GoldenLag]

5 minutes ago, Herman Mcpootis said:

most of the B450 boards have bios flashing without the CPU like the mortar, gaming plus and B450-A Pro. they only have it on the gaming M7 for X470 boards for some reason.

Thats very interesting. 

 

Gigabyte board also have it, but most of their x470 lineup isnt great

 

Unsure of the status to Taichi boards.

[Mathieu9836]

X470/B450 Boards you can flash bios without CPU:

 

ASUS :ROG Crosshair VII Hero

MSI: X470 Gaming M7 AC, B450-A Pro, B450 Gaming Plus, B450M Gaming Plus, B450M Gaming Plus, B450 Gaming Pro Carbon,

B450 Tomahawk, B450M Bazooka Plus, B450M Mortar [Titanium]

Asrock : None

Gigabyte: None

Biostar: None

 

 

[Herman Mcpootis]

3 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

Thats very interesting. 

 

Gigabyte board also have it, but most of their x470 lineup isnt great

 

Unsure of the status to Taichi boards.

seems like it's only really MSI that does this on the 400-series boards, the only other board that has it is the crosshair 7. damn shame, would have made recommending zen 2 cpus so much easier.

[GoldenLag]

3 minutes ago, Herman Mcpootis said:

damn shame, would have made recommending zen 2 cpus so much easier.

Good thing B450 tomahawk and Mortar are getting pretty cheap. So its not that hard. 

[CrazieChipmunk]

@GoldenLag what is the difference between the b450 tomahawk and b450 pro carbon ac because they are the boards im looking at

 

Also just so im clear, if the mobo has a flash thing, does that mean i can install the ryzen 3700x with a cooler on and the ram etc boot it up and update and everything will be fine or do i just leave an empty socket update then install the cpu?

 

I know i should just wait for reviews  but im really impatient. Ill still watch them though

[GoldenLag]

8 minutes ago, CrazieChipmunk said:

Also just so im clear, if the mobo has a flash thing, does that mean i can install the ryzen 3700x with a cooler on and the ram etc boot it up and update and everything will be fine or do i just leave an empty socket update then install the cpu?

Flashback means you load the BIOS on a thumbdrive and plug it into a specific USB on the back. Click the Bios flashback button and then it updates. 

 

9 minutes ago, CrazieChipmunk said:

GoldenLag what is the difference between the b450 tomahawk and b450 pro carbon ac because they are the boards im looking at

Pro carbon has wifi and some extra RGB. I believe that is the only major difference between them.

[PHrag]

22 hours ago, CrazieChipmunk said:

 

22 hours ago, CrazieChipmunk said:

@GoldenLag what is the difference between the b450 tomahawk and b450 pro carbon ac because they are the boards im looking at

22 hours ago, GoldenLag said:

Pro carbon has wifi and some extra RGB. I believe that is the only major difference between them.

 

Carbon AC also has better integrated sound (realtek 1220 vs 892) and Intel gigabit ethernet, which people say is better than realtek's on Tomahawk. These are the reasons why I want to get Carbon AC instead of Tomahawk, but it's sold out in my country atm.