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I currently have a desktop that I built (my first) and I want to start over and build a completely new one. I had a fair amount of trouble trying to decide between components the last time and I want to make sure I'm making solid choices this time around. I'm thinking the budget I want to stick to is 500 or less for the CPU, 200 for the motherboard, and 400 for the GPU. Spending less then would obviously be preferable. I've been looking at the I-9 9900k and the Ryzen 7 3800x that's about to come out, open to other recommendations. I'm not sure about what motherboards would be a good choice. As far the GPU, I've been looking at a RTX 2060 but again I'm not sure. Any help would be appreciated. 

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2 minutes ago, nckshark said:

I've been looking at the I-9 9900k and the Ryzen 7 3800x that's about to come out, open to other recommendations. I'm not sure about what motherboards would be a good choice.

wait for 3rd party benchmarks

 

2 minutes ago, nckshark said:

I'm thinking the budget I want to stick to is 500 or less for the CPU, 200 for the motherboard, and 400 for the GPU.

unbalanced for a gaming rig. a GPU for a gaming rig should cost about as much as the CPU and motherboard combined/

 

3 minutes ago, nckshark said:

As far the GPU, I've been looking at a RTX 2060 but again I'm not sure.

Again, wait for price cuts and Navi's 3rd party reviews.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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7 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

unbalanced for a gaming rig. a GPU for a gaming rig should cost about as much as the CPU and motherboard combined/

 

Thanks for replying.

Is that a general rule of thumb or is there certain things to look for

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4 minutes ago, nckshark said:

Thanks for replying.

Is that a general rule of thumb or is there certain things to look for

that's just a simplified way to explain the situation according to current prices for these components.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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52 minutes ago, nckshark said:

I currently have a desktop that I built (my first) and I want to start over and build a completely new one. I had a fair amount of trouble trying to decide between components the last time and I want to make sure I'm making solid choices this time around. I'm thinking the budget I want to stick to is 500 or less for the CPU, 200 for the motherboard, and 400 for the GPU. Spending less then would obviously be preferable. I've been looking at the I-9 9900k and the Ryzen 7 3800x that's about to come out, open to other recommendations. I'm not sure about what motherboards would be a good choice. As far the GPU, I've been looking at a RTX 2060 but again I'm not sure. Any help would be appreciated. 

What's the target workload? The reason I ask is that the workload has a big impact on where you might want to put your money.

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39 minutes ago, nckshark said:

Thanks for replying.

Is that a general rule of thumb or is there certain things to look for

For a gaming rig, the main performance comes from the GPU; almost all i5+ modern desktop CPUs are fast enough for games. However, the problem comes when you pair a super powerful GPU with a weak CPU; a CPU might have enough performance for the CPU bound game logic, but might not have enough performance to keep up with the GPU bound operations, and thus will slow down your GPU. For a gaming rig, look at your budget and identify a CPU+GPU combination that provides maximum GPU performance while using a CPU that can keep up with the powerful GPU.

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1 hour ago, nckshark said:

I want to stick to is 500 or less for the CPU, 200 for the motherboard, and 400 for the GPU. 

It would be a lot more helpful if we knew the total budget.

I got a ps5 and a pc pretty ballin

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22 hours ago, adithyay328 said:

What's the target workload? The reason I ask is that the workload has a big impact on where you might want to put your money.

thanks for replying.

 

gaming and streaming mostly, everything else I do doesn't require much power

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22 hours ago, star_pilot475 said:

It would be a lot more helpful if we knew the total budget.

thanks for replying.

 

I'd like to stay at 1500 or less but there is some wiggle room if I need it

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22 hours ago, candle86 said:

No prices don't have to play out where a gpu costs Mobo + CPU.

 

It depends on resolution if you want 1080p a GTX 1070 or GTX 1660 for 250 is fine same price as an i5.

thanks for replying.

 

Right now I'm using a old LCD tv as a monitor but I plan on buying a monitor in addition to my build. I have a GTX 1070 in my current desktop. I've been looking at a 144hz display, if I bought that how big of a difference would it make 

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21 minutes ago, candle86 said:

For 144 1080p the 1070 will still be fine for a while yet

thanks for your help

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How’s this @nckshark

 

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU Intel - Core i7-9700K 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor $364.99 @ Amazon
CPU Cooler be quiet! - Dark Rock Pro 4 50.5 CFM CPU Cooler $88.09 @ Amazon
Motherboard MSI - MPG Z390 GAMING EDGE AC ATX LGA1151 Motherboard $175.00 @ Amazon
Memory Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory $69.99 @ Amazon
Storage Western Digital - Blue 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive $64.89 @ OutletPC
Video Card Asus - GeForce RTX 2070 8 GB STRIX GAMING Video Card $479.99 @ Newegg
Case Fractal Design - Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case $99.98 @ Newegg
Power Supply Corsair - RMx (2018) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply $89.99 @ Newegg
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total (before mail-in rebates) $1492.92
  Mail-in rebates -$60.00
  Total $1432.92
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-07-03 10:48 EDT-0400  

Edit: @LukeSavenije I skipped the G3 just for you 

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I got a ps5 and a pc pretty ballin

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20 minutes ago, star_pilot475 said:

Edit: @LukeSavenije I skipped the G3 just for you 

pats

20 minutes ago, star_pilot475 said:

CPU Intel - Core i7-9700K 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor

hits with zen2

21 minutes ago, star_pilot475 said:

Motherboard MSI - MPG Z390 GAMING EDGE AC ATX LGA1151 Motherboard $175.00 @ Amazon

slaps even harder with aorus

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1 hour ago, LukeSavenije said:

hits with zen2

Challenge accepted

I left the motherboard out, but pick up a cheap X570 board (if that’s possible to get one cheap) 

and you should be good. 
 

 

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD - Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor $329.00
Memory Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory $69.99 @ Amazon
Storage Intel - 660p Series 512 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive $59.89 @ OutletPC
Video Card Zotac - GeForce RTX 2060 6 GB GAMING Video Card $348.99 @ SuperBiiz
Case Corsair - 200R ATX Mid Tower Case $55.99 @ Newegg
Power Supply SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply $79.98 @ Newegg
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total (before mail-in rebates) $978.84
  Mail-in rebates -$35.00
  Total $943.84
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-07-03 13:05 EDT-0400  

 

I got a ps5 and a pc pretty ballin

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2 minutes ago, star_pilot475 said:

Power Supply SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply $79.98 @ Newegg

time for another lesson? I'll just keep it on it has problems too

 

but yeah, challenge countered

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD - Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor $329.00
Motherboard ASRock - X370 Taichi ATX AM4 Motherboard $163.98 @ Newegg
Memory Team - T-FORCE VULCAN Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory $56.99 @ Newegg
Storage Micron - 1100 512 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive $49.99 @ Amazon
Video Card PowerColor - Radeon VII 16 GB Video Card $679.99 @ Amazon
Case Cooler Master - MasterBox MB511 ATX Mid Tower Case $35.98 @ Newegg
Power Supply Cooler Master - MWE Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply $69.99 @ Amazon
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total (before mail-in rebates) $1405.92
  Mail-in rebates -$20.00
  Total $1385.92
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-07-03 13:09 EDT-0400  

 

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1 minute ago, LukeSavenije said:

time for another lesson? I'll just keep it on it has problems too

 

but yeah, challenge countered

Lol, I’ll leave new builds up to you...

I got a ps5 and a pc pretty ballin

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1 minute ago, star_pilot475 said:

Lol, I’ll leave new builds up to you...

everyone can learn tho... i was much worse when i started here

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On 7/3/2019 at 12:09 PM, LukeSavenije said:

time for another lesson? I'll just keep it on it has problems too

 

but yeah, challenge countered

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD - Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor $329.00
Motherboard ASRock - X370 Taichi ATX AM4 Motherboard $163.98 @ Newegg
Memory Team - T-FORCE VULCAN Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory $56.99 @ Newegg
Storage Micron - 1100 512 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive $49.99 @ Amazon
Video Card PowerColor - Radeon VII 16 GB Video Card $679.99 @ Amazon
Case Cooler Master - MasterBox MB511 ATX Mid Tower Case $35.98 @ Newegg
Power Supply Cooler Master - MWE Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply $69.99 @ Amazon
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total (before mail-in rebates) $1405.92
  Mail-in rebates -$20.00
  Total $1385.92
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-07-03 13:09 EDT-0400  

 

thanks for your help

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On 7/3/2019 at 12:05 PM, star_pilot475 said:

Challenge accepted

I left the motherboard out, but pick up a cheap X570 board (if that’s possible to get one cheap) 

and you should be good. 
 

 

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD - Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor $329.00
Memory Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory $69.99 @ Amazon
Storage Intel - 660p Series 512 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive $59.89 @ OutletPC
Video Card Zotac - GeForce RTX 2060 6 GB GAMING Video Card $348.99 @ SuperBiiz
Case Corsair - 200R ATX Mid Tower Case $55.99 @ Newegg
Power Supply SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply $79.98 @ Newegg
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total (before mail-in rebates) $978.84
  Mail-in rebates -$35.00
  Total $943.84
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-07-03 13:05 EDT-0400  

 

thanks for your help

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