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Is some micro-stuttering normal?

AkSo2504

Hello,

how the title already says, o want to ask if its normal to have some micro-stutters in games. For me the stutters are pretty much the same for every game and usualy very short(but still noticable) and occur from time to time but not frequently, maybe like once every 20-30mins.

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PC spec? Refresh rate? Gsync/Freesync? 

 

Need more to be able to help ;)

MAIN RIG = CPURyzen 5 3600 @4.2 on all cores Mobo: MSI GAMING PRO CARBON AC RAM:Corsair Vengeance LED 16GB 3400MHz DDR4 GPU:MSI GTX 1080 GAMING X OC Storage: Corsair MP510 NVMe M.2 480GB, 2x SSD HyperX Fury 512GB (games) PSU:EVGA Supernova 850w G+ Gold Display(s): , LG GL850 1440p 144Hz, HP Z24i (Color Accurate work) Cooling: Hyper 212 LED with Noctua NF-P12 Keyboard: Corsair K68  Mouse: Logitech G502 HERO Headset: AudioTechnica ATH M50x  Case Thermaltake Versa H27

 

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No.

 

There are several causes.

 

When it first happen to me it was the motherboard/graphic card combination causing it. 

 

The video card was a GTX 970. I put the card in my Son's computer and it ran perfectly. My Son's motherboards was the same brand, same model but higher version number. I went back to using my old card(GTX 680) and I ordered a GTX 980. The 980 ran perfectly in that system.

 

After the GTX 980 I upgraded to a 980 ti and it ran fine but when I upgraded to a GTX 1080 the micro stuttering was back.

 

Fortunately by that time I had two computers capable of gaming. My old computer was originally built in 2011(i7 2600k) and my new one in 2016(i7 6700k). The GTX 1080 ran perfectly in the newer computer.  

 

Six months after I bought GTX 1080 I tested it in the old computer again and the micro stutter was gone. The next driver update brought the micro stutter back so I rolled them back. I had to do this many times with the i7 2600k/GTX 1080 combination. It went away with the GTX 1080 ti.

 

In the beginning of 2018 I upgraded the i7 2600k to a i7 8700k. I decided for the first time to go high end on the motherboard and bought a Maximus Hero board. So far it has been perfect and going from GTX 1080 tis to RTX 2080 tis has been flawless.

 

I recommend testing your GPU in another computer and trying a different video card in you current computer. 

 

 

 

 

RIG#1 CPU: AMD, R 7 5800x3D| Motherboard: X570 AORUS Master | RAM: Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 32GB DDR4 3200 | GPU: EVGA FTW3 ULTRA  RTX 3090 ti | PSU: EVGA 1000 G+ | Case: Lian Li O11 Dynamic | Cooler: EK 360mm AIO | SSD#1: Corsair MP600 1TB | SSD#2: Crucial MX500 2.5" 2TB | Monitor: ASUS ROG Swift PG42UQ

 

RIG#2 CPU: Intel i9 11900k | Motherboard: Z590 AORUS Master | RAM: Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 32GB DDR4 3600 | GPU: EVGA FTW3 ULTRA  RTX 3090 ti | PSU: EVGA 1300 G+ | Case: Lian Li O11 Dynamic EVO | Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 | SSD#1: SSD#1: Corsair MP600 1TB | SSD#2: Crucial MX300 2.5" 1TB | Monitor: LG 55" 4k C1 OLED TV

 

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RIG#4 CPU: Intel i9 13900k | Motherboard: AORUS Z790 Master | RAM: Corsair Dominator RGB 32GB DDR5 6200 | GPU: Zotac Amp Extreme 4090  | PSU: EVGA 1000 G+ | Case: Streacom BC1.1S | Cooler: EK 360mm AIO | SSD: Corsair MP600 1TB  | SSD#2: Crucial MX500 2.5" 1TB | Monitor: LG 55" 4k B9 OLED TV

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14 minutes ago, jones177 said:

No.

 

There are several causes.

 

When it first happen to me it was the motherboard/graphic card combination causing it. 

 

The video card was a GTX 970. I put the card in my Son's computer and it ran perfectly. My Son's motherboards was the same brand, same model but higher version number. I went back to using my old card(GTX 680) and I ordered a GTX 980. The 980 ran perfectly in that system.

 

After the GTX 980 I upgraded to a 980 ti and it ran fine but when I upgraded to a GTX 1080 the micro stuttering was back.

 

Fortunately by that time I had two computers capable of gaming. My old computer was originally built in 2011(i7 2600k) and my new one in 2016(i7 6700k). The GTX 1080 ran perfectly in the newer computer.  

 

Six months after I bought GTX 1080 I tested it in the old computer again and the micro stutter was gone. The next driver update brought the micro stutter back so I rolled them back. I had to do this many times with the i7 2600k/GTX 1080 combination. It went away with the GTX 1080 ti.

 

In the beginning of 2018 I upgraded the i7 2600k to a i7 8700k. I decided for the first time to go high end on the motherboard and bought a Maximus Hero board. So far it has been perfect and going from GTX 1080 tis to RTX 2080 tis has been flawless.

 

I recommend testing your GPU in another computer and trying a different video card in you current computer. 

 

 

 

 

thx for your answer.

It doesnt really bother me that much because its not happening that often and really small stutters, i just wanted to know if its normal. 

And i think from what i have heard most of the people have them that rare like me. If your just normally playing it doesnt really make the experience worse because theyre so short.(i know people that sometimes have stutters that are seconds long)

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41 minutes ago, AkSo2504 said:

thx for your answer.

It doesnt really bother me that much because its not happening that often and really small stutters, i just wanted to know if its normal. 

And i think from what i have heard most of the people have them that rare like me. If your just normally playing it doesnt really make the experience worse because theyre so short.(i know people that sometimes have stutters that are seconds long)

Hi 

Micro stutters are usually continues. From when you open the game to when you close it.

 

Regular stutter is intermittent like you discribe. It can be caused by drivers and poorly optimised areas in open world games. With the latter an overclock can sometimes fix it.

 

The overclockers I use on my CPU and GPU are not for high frame rate since I play at 4k and 3840 X 1600 but for the bad bits in open world games. For example my GPU is set to about 74% usage. I use game settings and vsync to do this. If I run into an unoptimized area I have gpu overhead to deal with it and things stay smooth. If I was running at 100% I would get stutter in the unoptimized areas and when there are too many NPCs/bots. 

CPU usage is harder to gauge since some games will only use 17% of a i7 7800k. You will lose frame rate and stutter going over since the CPU can no longer feed the GPU. Only higher IPC can stop this so that is the only reason I run all core overclocks. I replace my i7 8700k because it could not overclock to 5ghz and I needed 5ghz to stay smooth in all but one of my games.

 

The one game that my overclockers did not fix had i/o stutter. It is my heavily modded Fallout 4. I did a very expensive experiment by replacing my 1tb SATA SSD with a 2tb a 970 EVO NVMe. No more i/o stutters. I will be only buying NVMe SSDs in the future.   

 

 

 

RIG#1 CPU: AMD, R 7 5800x3D| Motherboard: X570 AORUS Master | RAM: Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 32GB DDR4 3200 | GPU: EVGA FTW3 ULTRA  RTX 3090 ti | PSU: EVGA 1000 G+ | Case: Lian Li O11 Dynamic | Cooler: EK 360mm AIO | SSD#1: Corsair MP600 1TB | SSD#2: Crucial MX500 2.5" 2TB | Monitor: ASUS ROG Swift PG42UQ

 

RIG#2 CPU: Intel i9 11900k | Motherboard: Z590 AORUS Master | RAM: Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 32GB DDR4 3600 | GPU: EVGA FTW3 ULTRA  RTX 3090 ti | PSU: EVGA 1300 G+ | Case: Lian Li O11 Dynamic EVO | Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 | SSD#1: SSD#1: Corsair MP600 1TB | SSD#2: Crucial MX300 2.5" 1TB | Monitor: LG 55" 4k C1 OLED TV

 

RIG#3 CPU: Intel i9 10900kf | Motherboard: Z490 AORUS Master | RAM: Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 32GB DDR4 4000 | GPU: MSI Gaming X Trio 3090 | PSU: EVGA 1000 G+ | Case: Lian Li O11 Dynamic | Cooler: EK 360mm AIO | SSD#1: Crucial P1 1TB | SSD#2: Crucial MX500 2.5" 1TB | Monitor: LG 55" 4k B9 OLED TV

 

RIG#4 CPU: Intel i9 13900k | Motherboard: AORUS Z790 Master | RAM: Corsair Dominator RGB 32GB DDR5 6200 | GPU: Zotac Amp Extreme 4090  | PSU: EVGA 1000 G+ | Case: Streacom BC1.1S | Cooler: EK 360mm AIO | SSD: Corsair MP600 1TB  | SSD#2: Crucial MX500 2.5" 1TB | Monitor: LG 55" 4k B9 OLED TV

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4 hours ago, AkSo2504 said:

i just wanted to know if its normal.

Depending on your hardware and how you optimize your PC for gaming, you're going to experience some type of stutter at some point. How you describe them is completely normal.

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