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Hello Linus peeps and peepos,

 

my current processor is an Intel i5-8400, with Z390 Aorus Ultra as my Motherboard, 16Gigabytes of Memory.

and i'll be having GTX 1660 Ti as my Graphics Card soon.

 

my Computer will be running maybe like 6/8hours a Day ( 15hours+ on Weekends ),

i'll be doing some Autocad, Adobe Illustrator, Photoshop, Premiere, After Effects, Game Developing, App Developing and Stream Games on my free Time..

 

 

the Question is,

is my Motherboard Overkill?

i'm Aiming for the Power Phase and Heatsinks for the Mosfets,

More power Phases means less Stress, and will produce less heat ( and Since i'm going to run my pc like 6-8hours a day Or more ), i find this the most crucial part

and don't forget about the thermal sensors for the m.2 ssd`s

Correct me if i'm wrong tho :0

for the Power Supply i'm using Corsair RM750x, so i don't have to worry about the efficiency.

my intentions of asking professional support from the linus community is,

my friend scolded me for getting z390 aorus ultra, just because i have an intel i5-8400, i have plans to upgrade later and give the i5-8400 to my little brother.

they kept saying i'm wasting money, why aorus ultra? buy cheap motherboards like b360 or something else, the lifespan will be the same anyway.

well his words kinda hurt my feelings, but Yeah i bought it already what can i do...

 

so yeah, quick points of the paragraphs above;
1. Temperature is my first priority

2. is my Motherboard Overkill?

3. is my Friend correct?
3a. like i'm wasting money because i can get cheaper motherboards and stuffs

3b. all motherboard have the same lifespan

 

well, i think that's all for now

i'm very sorry for my english.
cheers linus and the community i hope you're all going to have a great day =D

 

 

 

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Your friend is kind of right.  You're buying a better motherboard than you need.  Most people buy better boards for the features you mention so they can OC and push things.

 

For your needs, which being on 6-8 hours a day is nothing compared to a lot of us that run 24/7, you can save a lot of money on the board or get a CPU that you can utilize said Ultra board.

 

Your logic isn't 100% sound either. More Power Phases mean less stress, sure.  But more phases running cooler vs less phases running hotter.... you're putting out the same heat roughly, it's just spread out better. 

 

Thermal sensors for M.2?  That's basically a gimmick, they don't overheat unless you're doing something very wrong.

 

I think you may want a god board for placebo peace of mind really.  A mid board is going to serve you just as well and last just fine.

 

Edit;  Your feelings shouldn't be hurt when he tells you his opinion.  Besides, you can return the motherboard if you want or just use it.  Overkill is just fine, lots of people do it, and you'll be ripe for a better chip later you can OC the snot out of.

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5 minutes ago, AdamTheNiceMemeMan said:

what about future proof? is it future proof? :oo, 
i'm planning to get i7-9700k like in 1-2years, i'm going to work and save money with my current system

and the price of the processor will decrease too

No the 9700k will still be pricy then. (New)

 

 

Abd if you were going with that strat, you should have invested into ryzen........

 

 

Edit: tbf the iGPU is good for adobe work, but you could use the 8100 for that. Tho the 8400 makes more sense, and the 9900k isnt much better since its the same iGPU

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2 minutes ago, AdamTheNiceMemeMan said:

what about future proof? is it future proof? :oo, 
i'm planning to get i7-9700k like in 1-2years, i'm going to work and save money with my current system

and the price of the processor will decrease too

Sorta, but spending a lot more than you need now just to have it in 2 years?  Buy a board in 2 years.

 

It give NO benefit to use with that 8400, period.

"Do what makes the experience better" - in regards to PCs and Life itself.

 

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7800X3D - PBO +200, CO -30 all cores, 4.90GHz all core, 5.05GHz single core, Cinebench 23: 18401 multi, 1779 single

 

Khaleesi: Ryzen 5 5600X3D (+200, -30) - ASRock B550M Pro4 - G. Skill Ripjaws V 16GB 3200CL16 - Asus Prime 9060XT 16GB - Samsung 980 1TB + Crucial MX500 1TB - Cudy AX3000 PCIe Wifi 6 - EVGA SuperNOVA 650 P2 - Thermalright Frozen Notte RGB 360 White V2 - NZXT H6 Flow RGB White - LG 34" 3440x1440

 

NAS/Plex/Game Server  Ryzen 9 5900XT 16c/32t - Gigabyte B550M AORUS Elite AX - TeamGroup T-Force Vulcan 64GB 3200CL16 - MSI 1050Ti 4GB - Crucial P3 Plus 500GB + TeamGroup MP44L 2TB (Game) + WD Red Plus 4TBx2 (Plex) - TP-Link AC1200 PCIe Wifi - EVGA SuperNOVA 650 P2 - Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120SE - ASUS Prime AP201 - Currently Hosting: Enshrouded x2, Hytale, Icarus, Windrose. Project Zomboid, Dune Awakening.

 

Sage: Ryzen 7 7800X3D (+200, -30) - Gigabyte B650 Gaming X V2 - ASRock Steel Legend 7900GRE - G. Skill Flare X5 32GB 6000CL32 - TeamGroup MP44L 2TB - Super Flower Leadex Platinum SE 1000w - NZXT H5 Elite

 

Emma: i9 9900K @5.2Ghz - Gigabyte Z370 AORUS Gaming 5 - MSI 6900XT Gaming X Trio - G. Skill Ripjaws V 32GB 3200CL16 - 750 EVO 512GB + 2x 860 EVO 1TB (RAID0) - Super Flower Combat FG 850w - Thermaltake Water 3.0 Ultimate 360 - Fractal Design Define R6 - TP-Link AC1900 PCIe Wifi

 

GF Rig: Steam Deck 512GB OLED, Vizio 43" 4K TV

 

Extra parts: ASUS 6650XT - Gigabyte 1080Ti - Cooler Master Q300L - Gigabyte 450w PSU - Super Flower Leadex V Plat Pro 850w

 

OnePlus Ecosystem: 

OnePlus 11 5G - 16GB RAM, 256GB NAND, Eternal Green. OnePlus Watch 2 - Radiant Steel, OnePlus Buds Pro 2 - Eternal Green

3D Printing: 

Bambu Lab X1 Carbon, AMS, AMS2 Pro (thank you MicroCenter!)

Other Interesting Tech:

- 2021 Volvo S60 Recharge T8 PHEV Polestar Engineered - 415hp/495tq 2.0L 4cyl. turbocharged, supercharged and electrified.

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2 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

More overkill than you would ever need.

 

Isnt the mobo almost the same price as the CPU?

uh, well yes, but i got a massive 50% discount back then so i decided to take the i5-8400,

 

2 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

No the 9700k will still be pricy then. (New)

 

 

Abd if you were going with that strat, you should have invested into ryzen........

yeah actually, :^( but the time i bought the 8400, the price was the same with ryzen,

 

 

3 minutes ago, jstudrawa said:

Sorta, but spending a lot more than you need now just to have it in 2 years?  Buy a board in 2 years.

 

It give NO benefit to use with that 8400, period.

i'm going to use the processor for like 2years, but i'll be using the same board, and if i need to buy a new board can i have specific reasons? like maybe new chipsets and all? thankies ^^


also..
and yeah i think my friend's point is correct ;-;...

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3 minutes ago, AdamTheNiceMemeMan said:

yeah actually, :^( but the time i bought the 8400, the price was the same with ryzen,

2600 is still better for rendering workloads akd the upgrade psth was far better. You have the iGPU which you are probably using, or you are using cuda, in which case it doesnt matter. 

 

There is also allways the r7 1700, pretty much the golden budget rendering chip. A good mobo and you can get it to 4ghz allcore.

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3 minutes ago, AdamTheNiceMemeMan said:

, well yes, but i got a massive 50% discount back then so i decided to take the i5-8400,

Marketing 50%?

 

Because if its the same price as the 2600 at 50%, then its pretty much a scam, because a while back they were roughly the same price

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1 minute ago, GoldenLag said:

Marketing 50%?

 

Because if its the same price as the 2600 at 50%, then its pretty much a scam, because a while back they were roughly the same price

it was from a local store, there was some kind of event i guess and there are only 5stocks left and i read reviews about the i5-8400 and i think it's pretty good, and for a cheap price too

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4 minutes ago, AdamTheNiceMemeMan said:

it was from a local store, there was some kind of event i guess and there are only 5stocks left and i read reviews about the i5-8400 and i think it's pretty good, and for a cheap price too

So the 8400 at 50% was the same as a r5 2600 at 100%?

 

How did they end up selling 8400 CPUs if they were costing 320$? (Originally)

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Just now, GoldenLag said:

So the 8400 at 50% was the same as a r5 2600 at 100%?

 

How did they end up selling 8400 CPUs if they were costing 320$? (Originally)

yes, 50% was the same as r5 at 100%,

i think it was some kind of new year sale? or cleaning the storage like my country stores usually do

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4 minutes ago, AdamTheNiceMemeMan said:

yes, 50% was the same as r5 at 100%,

i think it was some kind of new year sale? or cleaning the storage like my country stores usually do

That is a scam then, at best they increased price to then lower it again or to create a sense of urgency. Around newyear the 2600 was slightly cheaper than the 8400. But not 160$ cheaper. If the 8400 was half price, the originally it would have been 320$. The price of an 9600k or 2700x. 

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18 hours ago, GoldenLag said:

That is a scam then, at best they increased price to then lower it again or to create a sense of urgency. Around newyear the 2600 was slightly cheaper than the 8400. But not 160$ cheaper. If the 8400 was half price, the originally it would have been 320$. The price of an 9600k or 2700x. 

:0 so my i5-8400 is fake?

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Just now, AdamTheNiceMemeMan said:

:0 so my i5-8400 is fake?

:`0

no its not fake, the offer they were making is from what i know illegal in both th EU and Canada. (if its done the way i think it was done)

 

because a 160$ (roughly) 8400 at a 50% offer is not normal. that CPU costs 160$. its not a 320$ CPU on offer. 

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19 hours ago, AdamTheNiceMemeMan said:

i'm planning to get i7-9700k like in 1-2years,

That's a terrible idea, in 2 years you will have a lot more advanced CPUs that you'll rather have... more cores don't make a difference if you're after single thread performance which your software is very depended, if you need more cores for multi-tasking you should already start with a 9700K.

 

19 hours ago, AdamTheNiceMemeMan said:

price of the processor will decrease too

No it won't, Intel CPUs never decreases in price just go look what old i7 4790K's are still priced at even on second hand market.

 

It makes no sense to buy a great motherboard today only to pair it with an appropriated CPU like the 9700K here in 2 years, buy a low end cheapo b360 board for the 8400 today and in 2 years replace everything brand new with current gen tech.

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5 hours ago, AdamTheNiceMemeMan said:

Crap, what should I do now ;-;;

You can return the motherboard or get a better CPU for that one.

 

Or just enjoy your computer that has a slightly overkill motherboard in it, you'll be more than fine ;)

 

No one will even know!

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Onyx: Ryzen 7 7800X3D / Gigabyte B650 AORUS Pro AX / ASRock Taichi 7900xtx OC / G. Skill Flare X5 6000CL36 64GB (4x16GB) / Samsung 980 1TB x3 / Super Flower Leadex V Plat Pro 1000 / EK-AIO 360 Basic w/ Silent Wings fans / Fractal Design North XL (black mesh) / LG - UltraGear 45" OLED QHD 240Hz / Mackie CR5BT / SteelSeries Arctis Nova Pro / Cherry MX Board 3.0 / Logitech G502 - https://valid.x86.fr/my9nnr

 

7800X3D - PBO +200, CO -30 all cores, 4.90GHz all core, 5.05GHz single core, Cinebench 23: 18401 multi, 1779 single

 

Khaleesi: Ryzen 5 5600X3D (+200, -30) - ASRock B550M Pro4 - G. Skill Ripjaws V 16GB 3200CL16 - Asus Prime 9060XT 16GB - Samsung 980 1TB + Crucial MX500 1TB - Cudy AX3000 PCIe Wifi 6 - EVGA SuperNOVA 650 P2 - Thermalright Frozen Notte RGB 360 White V2 - NZXT H6 Flow RGB White - LG 34" 3440x1440

 

NAS/Plex/Game Server  Ryzen 9 5900XT 16c/32t - Gigabyte B550M AORUS Elite AX - TeamGroup T-Force Vulcan 64GB 3200CL16 - MSI 1050Ti 4GB - Crucial P3 Plus 500GB + TeamGroup MP44L 2TB (Game) + WD Red Plus 4TBx2 (Plex) - TP-Link AC1200 PCIe Wifi - EVGA SuperNOVA 650 P2 - Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120SE - ASUS Prime AP201 - Currently Hosting: Enshrouded x2, Hytale, Icarus, Windrose. Project Zomboid, Dune Awakening.

 

Sage: Ryzen 7 7800X3D (+200, -30) - Gigabyte B650 Gaming X V2 - ASRock Steel Legend 7900GRE - G. Skill Flare X5 32GB 6000CL32 - TeamGroup MP44L 2TB - Super Flower Leadex Platinum SE 1000w - NZXT H5 Elite

 

Emma: i9 9900K @5.2Ghz - Gigabyte Z370 AORUS Gaming 5 - MSI 6900XT Gaming X Trio - G. Skill Ripjaws V 32GB 3200CL16 - 750 EVO 512GB + 2x 860 EVO 1TB (RAID0) - Super Flower Combat FG 850w - Thermaltake Water 3.0 Ultimate 360 - Fractal Design Define R6 - TP-Link AC1900 PCIe Wifi

 

GF Rig: Steam Deck 512GB OLED, Vizio 43" 4K TV

 

Extra parts: ASUS 6650XT - Gigabyte 1080Ti - Cooler Master Q300L - Gigabyte 450w PSU - Super Flower Leadex V Plat Pro 850w

 

OnePlus Ecosystem: 

OnePlus 11 5G - 16GB RAM, 256GB NAND, Eternal Green. OnePlus Watch 2 - Radiant Steel, OnePlus Buds Pro 2 - Eternal Green

3D Printing: 

Bambu Lab X1 Carbon, AMS, AMS2 Pro (thank you MicroCenter!)

Other Interesting Tech:

- 2021 Volvo S60 Recharge T8 PHEV Polestar Engineered - 415hp/495tq 2.0L 4cyl. turbocharged, supercharged and electrified.

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