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MSI Gaming Plus vs Tomahawk

Hi,

 

I need to choose between these two motherboards:

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/B450-GAMING-PLUS

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/B450-TOMAHAWK/Overview

 

The first one is a little bit cheaper at $125 shipping included while the other one is about $11 more expensive. However the Tomahawk is very popular but I don't know if it's worth the extra price, especially considering that I originally didn't want to spend over $100. I'm not planning on doing any CPU overclocking. I'm currently using a 2600X though I might upgrade it to a 3rd gen Ryzen CPU next year or in a couple years. I'm also using a Vega 56. Which one do you think I should get?

 

Thanks

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12 minutes ago, IAmAndre said:

Hi,

 

I need to choose between these two motherboards:

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/B450-GAMING-PLUS

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/B450-TOMAHAWK/Overview

 

The first one is a little bit cheaper at $125 shipping included while the other one is about $11 more expensive. However the Tomahawk is very popular but I don't know if it's worth the extra price, especially considering that I originally didn't want to spend over $100. I'm not planning on doing any CPU overclocking. I'm currently using a 2600X though I might upgrade it to a 3rd gen Ryzen CPU next year or in a couple years. I'm also using a Vega 56. Which one do you think I should get?

 

Thanks

The tomahawk looks better and has some better features. I would read some reviews online and see what they say

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15 minutes ago, jake765111 said:

The tomahawk looks better and has some better features. I would read some reviews online and see what they say

The tomahawk is a lot better, so I would go with that. If you want to same some money you could get the MSI B450M Mortar, which is the MATX version of the Tomahawk. It has all the same features, minus a couple of pcie slots that you won't use anyway, and is slightly cheaper.

 

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/B450M-MORTAR

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2 minutes ago, dizmo said:

MSI ?

What's wrong with MSI, the Tomahawk's one of the best motherboards for the price.

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 2600X  |  Cooler: Cryorig H7  |  Motherboard: MSI B450 Mortar  |  Case: Fractal Design Meshify C Mini  |  RAM: Team Vulcan 16GB  3000MHz  |  GPU: EVGA 1070ti Gaming (Kraken G12 Watercooled) |  PSU: Corsair TXM650  |  Storage: Samsung 860 EVO 500GB + WD Blue M.2 500GB  |  Network Card: Asus PCE-AC56  |  Monitor: Acer Nitro VG270U  |  Audio: Sennheiser HD6XX + Schiit Fulla 2

 

Laptop:

Lenovo s540:  CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3500U  |  RAM: 8GB DDR4 2666MHz  |  GPU: AMD Radeon Vega 8  |  Storage: 256GB NVME SSD

 

Other builds:

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Workstation 1:

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 2700X  |  Cooler: NZXT Kraken X62 Rev 2  |  Motherboard: MSI X470 Gaming Pro  |  Case: Corsair Crystal 570X  |  RAM: Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB 3200MHz  |  GPU: Nvidia Quadro P5000  |  PSU: Corsair TXM750  |  Storage 1: WD Green 120GB  |  Storage 2: WD Blue 1TB  |  Storage 3: Seagate Barracuda 4TB  |  Monitor: LG 27UD68

 

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5 minutes ago, AndrewB121 said:

What's wrong with MSI, the Tomahawk's one of the best motherboards for the price.

I've had nothing but problems with MSI boards, spanning both Intel and AMD sockets.

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Budget Rig 1 - Sold For $750 Profit

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Just now, dizmo said:

I've had nothing but problems with MSI boards, spanning both Intel and AMD sockets.

Strange, I've used them for two PCs, and had no issues, and they generally have really good reviews. Maybe their older models had issues?

 

Either way I don't think OP should worry too much about it.

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 2600X  |  Cooler: Cryorig H7  |  Motherboard: MSI B450 Mortar  |  Case: Fractal Design Meshify C Mini  |  RAM: Team Vulcan 16GB  3000MHz  |  GPU: EVGA 1070ti Gaming (Kraken G12 Watercooled) |  PSU: Corsair TXM650  |  Storage: Samsung 860 EVO 500GB + WD Blue M.2 500GB  |  Network Card: Asus PCE-AC56  |  Monitor: Acer Nitro VG270U  |  Audio: Sennheiser HD6XX + Schiit Fulla 2

 

Laptop:

Lenovo s540:  CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3500U  |  RAM: 8GB DDR4 2666MHz  |  GPU: AMD Radeon Vega 8  |  Storage: 256GB NVME SSD

 

Other builds:

Spoiler

Workstation 1:

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 2700X  |  Cooler: NZXT Kraken X62 Rev 2  |  Motherboard: MSI X470 Gaming Pro  |  Case: Corsair Crystal 570X  |  RAM: Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB 3200MHz  |  GPU: Nvidia Quadro P5000  |  PSU: Corsair TXM750  |  Storage 1: WD Green 120GB  |  Storage 2: WD Blue 1TB  |  Storage 3: Seagate Barracuda 4TB  |  Monitor: LG 27UD68

 

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4 hours ago, AndrewB121 said:

The tomahawk is a lot better, so I would go with that. If you want to same some money you could get the MSI B450M Mortar, which is the MATX version of the Tomahawk. It has all the same features, minus a couple of pcie slots that you won't use anyway, and is slightly cheaper.

 

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/B450M-MORTAR

What features are you referring to?

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12 hours ago, IAmAndre said:

What features are you referring to?

Nothing in particular, just saying that the mortar is almost exactly the same as the tomahawk, but smaller and cheaper. Has a slightly less beefy VRM but it's still a good one and will be sufficient for anything but perhaps overclocking the top chips, such as the R7 2700X.

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 2600X  |  Cooler: Cryorig H7  |  Motherboard: MSI B450 Mortar  |  Case: Fractal Design Meshify C Mini  |  RAM: Team Vulcan 16GB  3000MHz  |  GPU: EVGA 1070ti Gaming (Kraken G12 Watercooled) |  PSU: Corsair TXM650  |  Storage: Samsung 860 EVO 500GB + WD Blue M.2 500GB  |  Network Card: Asus PCE-AC56  |  Monitor: Acer Nitro VG270U  |  Audio: Sennheiser HD6XX + Schiit Fulla 2

 

Laptop:

Lenovo s540:  CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3500U  |  RAM: 8GB DDR4 2666MHz  |  GPU: AMD Radeon Vega 8  |  Storage: 256GB NVME SSD

 

Other builds:

Spoiler

Workstation 1:

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 2700X  |  Cooler: NZXT Kraken X62 Rev 2  |  Motherboard: MSI X470 Gaming Pro  |  Case: Corsair Crystal 570X  |  RAM: Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB 3200MHz  |  GPU: Nvidia Quadro P5000  |  PSU: Corsair TXM750  |  Storage 1: WD Green 120GB  |  Storage 2: WD Blue 1TB  |  Storage 3: Seagate Barracuda 4TB  |  Monitor: LG 27UD68

 

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On 5/29/2019 at 10:22 AM, AndrewB121 said:

Strange, I've used them for two PCs, and had no issues, and they generally have really good reviews. Maybe their older models had issues?

 

Either way I don't think OP should worry too much about it.

I went through 6 of them over the past couple of years. They were horrible. The one I have now is also failing, and it's on a different platform entirely. MSI's products are simply lacking. My dad has also had similar issues with their motherboards. As a result, I'll never use or recommend them again.

CPU: Ryzen 9 5900 Cooler: EVGA CLC280 Motherboard: Gigabyte B550i Pro AX RAM: Kingston Hyper X 32GB 3200mhz

Storage: WD 750 SE 500GB, WD 730 SE 1TB GPU: EVGA RTX 3070 Ti PSU: Corsair SF750 Case: Streacom DA2

Monitor: LG 27GL83B Mouse: Razer Basilisk V2 Keyboard: G.Skill KM780 Cherry MX Red Speakers: Mackie CR5BT

 

MiniPC - Sold for $100 Profit

Spoiler

CPU: Intel i3 4160 Cooler: Integrated Motherboard: Integrated

RAM: G.Skill RipJaws 16GB DDR3 Storage: Transcend MSA370 128GB GPU: Intel 4400 Graphics

PSU: Integrated Case: Shuttle XPC Slim

Monitor: LG 29WK500 Mouse: G.Skill MX780 Keyboard: G.Skill KM780 Cherry MX Red

 

Budget Rig 1 - Sold For $750 Profit

Spoiler

CPU: Intel i5 7600k Cooler: CryOrig H7 Motherboard: MSI Z270 M5

RAM: Crucial LPX 16GB DDR4 Storage: Intel S3510 800GB GPU: Nvidia GTX 980

PSU: Corsair CX650M Case: EVGA DG73

Monitor: LG 29WK500 Mouse: G.Skill MX780 Keyboard: G.Skill KM780 Cherry MX Red

 

OG Gaming Rig - Gone

Spoiler

 

CPU: Intel i5 4690k Cooler: Corsair H100i V2 Motherboard: MSI Z97i AC ITX

RAM: Crucial Ballistix 16GB DDR3 Storage: Kingston Fury 240GB GPU: Asus Strix GTX 970

PSU: Thermaltake TR2 Case: Phanteks Enthoo Evolv ITX

Monitor: Dell P2214H x2 Mouse: Logitech MX Master Keyboard: G.Skill KM780 Cherry MX Red

 

 

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