Pc Running Slow vs Fast

[xzplicit]

What part/ parts are the ones that make your PC run fast/ slow ?

[SenioRR]

The key to having a responsive system is an SSD drive for Windows and your software.

You can have the most powerful CPU and excessive amounts of RAM but if you can't supply the hardware with data quickly enough, your system will be slow.

Obviously, a good CPU with plenty of cores will make multitasking more smooth and RAM will allow you to have more Chrome tabs apps open and also make data heavy workloads run better.

If you are working on a build, what will you use it for?

 

[xzplicit]

I want to build a PC that I can do my homework on and have 5+ tabs open, can watch YouTube/Twitch/ listen to music and have it run smooth . I will also be gaming on it (Fortnite, Rainbow 6, BF1) , doing some adobe programs, and streaming.

[GoldenLag]

8 minutes ago, xzplicit said:

I want to build a PC that I can do my homework on and have 5+ tabs open, can watch YouTube/Twitch/ listen to music and have it run smooth . I will also be gaming on it (Fortnite, Rainbow 6, BF1) , doing some adobe programs, and streaming.

And what is your budget?

[xzplicit]

2 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

And what is your budget?

1500-2000

[xzplicit]

23 minutes ago, SenioRR said:

The key to having a responsive system is an SSD drive for Windows and your software.

You can have the most powerful CPU and excessive amounts of RAM but if you can't supply the hardware with data quickly enough, your system will be slow.

Obviously, a good CPU with plenty of cores will make multitasking more smooth and RAM will allow you to have more Chrome tabs apps open and also make data heavy workloads run better.

If you are working on a build, what will you use it for?

 

 want to build a PC that I can do my homework on and have 5+ tabs open, can watch YouTube/Twitch/ listen to music and have it run smooth . I will also be gaming on it (Fortnite, Rainbow 6, BF1) , doing some adobe programs, and streaming.

[Guiltyxz]

17 minutes ago, xzplicit said:

1500-2000

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD - Ryzen 7 2700X 3.7 GHz 8-Core Processor	$279.89 @ OutletPC
CPU Cooler	Corsair - H100i PRO 75 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler	$99.89 @ OutletPC
Thermal Compound	Arctic Silver - 5 High-Density Polysynthetic Silver 3.5 g Thermal Paste	$6.20 @ OutletPC
Motherboard	Asus - Prime X470-Pro ATX AM4 Motherboard	$139.89 @ OutletPC
Memory	Corsair - Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory	$179.99 @ Amazon
Storage	Samsung - 970 Evo 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive	$149.89 @ OutletPC
Storage	Seagate - Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	$59.89 @ OutletPC
Video Card	Gigabyte - GeForce RTX 2070 8 GB WINDFORCE Video Card	$478.99 @ SuperBiiz
Case	Corsair - SPEC OMEGA ATX Mid Tower Case	$49.99 @ Newegg
Power Supply	EVGA - SuperNOVA G3 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	$104.89 @ OutletPC
Operating System	Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit	$99.39 @ OutletPC
Monitor	Acer - GN246HL 24.0" 1920x1080 144 Hz Monitor	$179.99 @ B&H
Keyboard	Corsair - K70 RGB MK.2 Wired Gaming Keyboard	$104.99 @ Amazon
Mouse	Corsair - DARK CORE RGB SE Wireless Optical Mouse	$69.99 @ Corsair
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total (before mail-in rebates)	$2093.87
	Mail-in rebates	-$90.00
	Total	$2003.87
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-05-24 06:42 EDT-0400

Just about bang on 2000. Bit overkill but will run pretty much any game at 1440p60 and at least 4k30. But you gotta keep in mind its a full setup. If you already have monitor/keyboard and mouse than you could get better parts or just save some money.

[GoldenLag]

8 minutes ago, josbeph83 said:

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That is not a build i suggest getting. It has flaws and is very expencive for what you are getting

[Guiltyxz]

Or there is this one, about 200 cheaper, but no monitor or peripherals

 

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD - Ryzen 5 2600X 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor	$179.89 @ OutletPC
CPU Cooler	Corsair - H100i PRO 75 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler	$99.89 @ OutletPC
Thermal Compound	Arctic Silver - 5 High-Density Polysynthetic Silver 3.5 g Thermal Paste	$6.20 @ OutletPC
Motherboard	Asus - TUF X470-PLUS GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard	$131.74 @ Walmart
Memory	G.Skill - Trident Z RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory	$114.99 @ Amazon
Storage	Samsung - 970 Evo 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive	$149.89 @ OutletPC
Storage	Seagate - Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	$59.89 @ OutletPC
Video Card	Asus - GeForce RTX 2080 8 GB ROG Strix Gaming OC Video Card	$769.99 @ Newegg
Case	Thermaltake - Suppressor F31 Tempered Glass Edition ATX Mid Tower Case	$85.98 @ Newegg
Power Supply	EVGA - SuperNOVA G3 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	$104.89 @ OutletPC
Operating System	Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit	$99.39 @ OutletPC
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total (before mail-in rebates)	$1912.74
	Mail-in rebates	-$110.00
	Total	$1802.74
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-05-24 06:56 EDT-0400

 

[Guiltyxz]

5 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

That is not a build i suggest getting. It has flaws and is very expencive for what you are getting

Ok, what about my other one?

[xzplicit]

3 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

That is not a build i suggest getting. It has flaws and is very expencive for what you are getting

What would you suggest?

[GoldenLag]

39 minutes ago, xzplicit said:

doing some adobe programs, and streaming.

what Adobe programs? will you be running other derivatives or sitting inside the software suite?

 

how much of streamer?

 

also i would suggest waiting launch of Zen 2. see how that pans out

[Guiltyxz]

2 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

what Adobe programs? will you be running other derivatives or sitting inside the software suite?

 

how much of streamer?

 

also i would suggest waiting launch of Zen 2. see how that pans out

 

3 minutes ago, xzplicit said:

What would you suggest?

Yh actually. Wait for Zen 2 then start looking again.

[xzplicit]

Just now, GoldenLag said:

what Adobe programs? will you be running other derivatives or sitting inside the software suite?

 

how much of streamer?

 

also i would suggest waiting launch of Zen 2. see how that pans out

I would be running photoshop & Lightroom  and would love to stream 2-3 hours a day 

[TomvanWijnen]

2 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

also i would suggest waiting launch of Zen 2. see how that pans out

I agree with this. I believe we'll know more in like 4 days.

[xzplicit]

Just now, TomvanWijnen said:

I agree with this. I believe we'll know more in like 4 days.

When is zen 2 coming out 

[GoldenLag]

1 minute ago, josbeph83 said:

Power Supply EVGA - SuperNOVA G3 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply $104.89 @ OutletPC

not great PSU. overkill wattage

1 minute ago, josbeph83 said:

Motherboard Asus - TUF X470-PLUS GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard $131.74 @ Walmart

ovepriced an not great mobo

1 minute ago, josbeph83 said:

Storage Samsung - 970 Evo 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive $149.89 @ OutletPC

overpaying for an SSD that is way overkill. 

2 minutes ago, josbeph83 said:

Storage Seagate - Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $59.89 @ OutletPC

the Constallation ES exists. 

2 minutes ago, josbeph83 said:

Video Card Asus - GeForce RTX 2080 8 GB ROG Strix Gaming OC Video Card $769.99 @ Newegg

overpaying for expencive card variants

3 minutes ago, josbeph83 said:

CPU Cooler Corsair - H100i PRO 75 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler $99.89 @ OutletPC

not needed liquid cooler aswell as it being expencive when better and cheaper aircooling exists. 

3 minutes ago, josbeph83 said:

Ok, what about my other one?

better, but not by much. 

 

3 minutes ago, xzplicit said:

What would you suggest?

thinking out something. it would probably be something like an 8700k + Rad 7 or 2080

[GoldenLag]

1 minute ago, xzplicit said:

I would be running photoshop & Lightroom  and would love to stream 2-3 hours a day 

if you want to get the most out of your money and be sure about your purschase i would see how Zen 2 pans out. 

 

the iGPU isnt very useful in those programs afaik and as such getting some higher frequency and more cores on the issue is the way to go. 

1 minute ago, xzplicit said:

When is zen 2 coming out 

no firm releasedate. AMD is holding an event on monday, we expect to have a date by then and maybe some more. its not too long afaik 

[xzplicit]

1 minute ago, GoldenLag said:

not great PSU. overkill wattage

ovepriced an not great mobo

overpaying for an SSD that is way overkill. 

the Constallation ES exists. 

overpaying for expencive card variants

not needed liquid cooler aswell as it being expencive when better and cheaper aircooling exists. 

better, but not by much. 

 

thinking out something. it would probably be something like an 8700k + Rad 7 or 2080

I was thinking either and i9 or i7 9700k and was going to either go with an rtx 2070 or 2080

[GoldenLag]

Just now, xzplicit said:

I was thinking either and i9 or i7 9700k and was going to either go with an rtx 2070 or 2080

hold of for now. Zen 2 is probably close enough that waiting a little wont hurt

[xzplicit]

Just now, GoldenLag said:

hold of for now. Zen 2 is probably close enough that waiting a little wont hurt

Yeah you’re right , I’ve waited 3 months doesn’t hurt to wait a bit longer lol , I’ll wait and see and if I’m still concerned about things I’m going to make a post on here asking for good specs for a 1500-2000 pc and do everything I want it to do . I’m not the greatest with PCs as I just started to learn about them on January , but I know it’s a good investment . 

[GoldenLag]

Just now, xzplicit said:

Yeah you’re right , I’ve waited 3 months doesn’t hurt to wait a bit longer lol , I’ll wait and see and if I’m still concerned about things I’m going to make a post on here asking for good specs for a 1500-2000 pc and do everything I want it to do . I’m not the greatest with PCs as I just started to learn about them on January , but I know it’s a good investment . 

even with the worst case scenario of Zen 2 not fitting for you (and it most likely will be a better pick) its likely we will see some price drop of 9k and 8k series CPUs. 

 

just fyi if you didnt know. the 8k and 9k series from intel is identical. and 7k is the same as 8k. the only difference being that they slapped another 2 cores at the end of it and made it warmer. 

 

as such the 8700k is honestly a better pick than the 9700k. 

[xzplicit]

3 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

even with the worst case scenario of Zen 2 not fitting for you (and it most likely will be a better pick) its likely we will see some price drop of 9k and 8k series CPUs. 

 

just fyi if you didnt know. the 8k and 9k series from intel is identical. and 7k is the same as 8k. the only difference being that they slapped another 2 cores at the end of it and made it warmer. 

 

as such the 8700k is honestly a better pick than the 9700k. 

I will definitely keep that in mind man , thank you so much for the replies . Hopefully the zen 2 is good but you’re right about potential price drops so I guess it might be a win for me to wait regardless 

[AngryBeaver]

1 hour ago, xzplicit said:

What would you suggest?

This would be more what I would aim for. If you plan to do lots of streaming and don't want to use the geforce codec then you might upgrade to a 2700 for another 50 bucks or so.

 

I used the 2600 over the 2600x and upgraded the CPU cooler expecting you would be able to do a simple 4.2ghz overclock on the cpu.

 

If you need monitor and mouse/keyboard then expect to add another 150-250 to the total cost.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor	$147.90 @ OutletPC
CPU Cooler	ARCTIC - Freezer 34 eSports DUO CPU Cooler	$39.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard	ASRock - B450M PRO4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard	$75.61 @ OutletPC
Memory	G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory	$86.98 @ Newegg
Storage	Intel - 660p Series 1 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive	$108.90 @ OutletPC
Storage	Seagate - Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	$59.89 @ OutletPC
Video Card	EVGA - GeForce RTX 2070 8 GB XC GAMING Video Card	$469.99 @ Newegg
Case	NZXT - H500 ATX Mid Tower Case	$69.99 @ Amazon
Power Supply	Corsair - CXM 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply	$52.88 @ OutletPC
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total (before mail-in rebates)	$1182.13
	Mail-in rebates	-$70.00
	Total	$1112.13
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-05-24 08:40 EDT-0400

 

[BigRom]

You could upgrade to the RTX2070, but I personally thinks its awful value for the performance (it really should be called a 2060 Ti)

Adobe likes Intel better so 8700K it is

 

But yeah as others said, at least wait for Zen2 just to see if shakes up the market so you can net even better deals.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700K 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($354.99 @ Walmart)
CPU Cooler: Noctua - NH-D15 82.5 CFM CPU Cooler  ($89.95 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - Z390 AORUS PRO ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($169.98 @ Amazon)
Memory: Team - T-Force Vulcan 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($80.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial - MX500 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($59.99 @ Adorama)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($59.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce RTX 2060 6 GB GAMING AMP Video Card  ($369.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design - Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case  ($84.89 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair - RMx (2018) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($93.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $1364.64
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-05-24 09:00 EDT-0400