GTA 5 RAM PROBLEMS

[juanditos]

Hello, 

 

f u have come here u probaly will have already looked everywhere, like i have. or u will maybe have a solution for my problem. the problem contains of the fact i cant run gta 5 without it freezing every couple seconds FOR only a split second. now this may get u guys a little mad i do own a "Gaming" laptop. these are my specs:

hqi7-7700

Nvidia-gtx 1050

8gb ram

128gb ssd

1tb hdd (gta 5 is on here)

i have friends that for some reason can run this game with less of a rig ( now if thats cause of the laptop vs pc part idk) but its very odd to me. i know 1 or 2 things about pc's but this is certaintly where my knowledge stops.

so the problem is that gta 5 is of course a ram sucking game. i play with around 1gb of ram left while having no other programs directly running, now this seems to be a problem somehow since the ram doesnt do enough of its job so my laptop decides to use my 1tb hard drive to process the work that the ram should do  now this is where my problem lies. ofc that hard drive aint doing it fast enough and so the freezing of my game comes in play. now i need some help cause i aint about to let this game go. i have some plans of upgrading do 16gb of ram before summer vacactions starts. so that would already fix it. but for now i was hoping SOMEONE out there could help a fellow gamer out...

 

 

its 15 min later i decided to check what my laptop runs when i close this google tab and have nothing left open. its 3.9gb 40% of all my ram? so what is the problem here? restart would probally help a little but i cant find anything major in task manager. just a dozen of things that all use like 3mb but im not about to add em all up but it for sure isnt 4gb. so help me if u got any idea.

[Mister Woof]

Might be because you are likely only in single channel ram

 

Buying another 8gb stick might fix it

[juanditos]

1 minute ago, Plutosaurus said:

Might be because you are likely only in single channel ram

 

Buying another 8gb stick might fix it

yeah i run 1 stick in my laptop with 1 slot free, so adding 1 aint a problem? + read my edit i just made. (and u got no other solution maybe? cause im kinda not happy about spending the 80 euros on a new stick. ( the 1 stick runs 2667MHz btw)

[Mister Woof]

If you are running out of ram, it will switch to virtual memory (hard drive) and you will get performance impact.

 

If you are on a laptop I recommend doing a clean windows install because a lot of OEM bloat can hide in there sucking up resources.

[juanditos]

10 minutes ago, Plutosaurus said:

If you are running out of ram, it will switch to virtual memory (hard drive) and you will get performance impact.

 

If you are on a laptop I recommend doing a clean windows install because a lot of OEM bloat can hide in there sucking up resources.

good idea, but doing that every couple months isnt the best thing ever

 

[Mister Woof]

9 minutes ago, juanditos said:

good idea, but doing that every couple months isnt the best thing ever

 

Must have missed it, thought you were on the original OEM install.

 

It's probably a single channel/insufficient memory issue tbh.

 

The good news is ram is cheap now

[juanditos]

16 minutes ago, Plutosaurus said:

Must have missed it, thought you were on the original OEM install.

 

It's probably a single channel/insufficient memory issue tbh.

 

The good news is ram is cheap now

well 1 last question, u got any ideo how i can check which kind of ram is in my laptop right now? so i can buy the exact same stick?

 

[Mister Woof]

Just now, juanditos said:

well 1 last question, u got any ideo how i can check which kind of ram is in my laptop right now? so i can buy the exact same stick?

 

CPUZ usually will tell you this information in the memory tab, along with how many slots

[juanditos]

On 5/3/2019 at 5:16 PM, Plutosaurus said:

CPUZ usually will tell you this information in the memory tab, along with how many slots

READ EDIT FIRST.

so boy i got my shit togheter and have made a choice, more RAM!!! but now i got another problem. laptop, 1 slot used 8gb stick. 1 open. if i buy the same stick it will "probally" work. now that worries me. this probally comes from the fact theres a such thing as single dual and triple and quad channel for ur RAM sticks. now if the 1 stick in my system is single stick and i buy another single, does that work optimally? do i need to buy a 8gb dual stick? HELLPPPPP

 

EDIT EDIT EDIT EDIT IMPORTANT: READ FIRST

 

i just watched a video where it says it doesnt matter because u dont buy either one, its just terms for how u configure them into the motherboard, so sorry!

 

[Tristerin]

30 minutes ago, juanditos said:

READ EDIT FIRST.

so boy i got my shit togheter and have made a choice, more RAM!!! but now i got another problem. laptop, 1 slot used 8gb stick. 1 open. if i buy the same stick it will "probally" work. now that worries me. this probally comes from the fact theres a such thing as single dual and triple and quad channel for ur RAM sticks. now if the 1 stick in my system is single stick and i buy another single, does that work optimally? do i need to buy a 8gb dual stick? HELLPPPPP

 

EDIT EDIT EDIT EDIT IMPORTANT: READ FIRST

 

i just watched a video where it says it doesnt matter because u dont buy either one, its just terms for how u configure them into the motherboard, so sorry!

 

 

If your motherboard has 2 DIMM slots available, and only 1 is occupied by 1 stick of DDR4 SODIMM RAM it is running in "Single Channel Mode" - when you put another stick of ram in, it will then run in "Dual Channel Mode".  

 

I recommend getting the same exact RAM because, if you don't, it may not play nice together (but unlikely that it wouldn't work together, the real reason comes next) or the better RAM stick will have to downclock itself to the lesser of the two sticks frequency and timings.

 

Also understand that while you have an i7 7700HQ (note the HQ), and i7's are all the rage - its not the same chip as an i7-7700 desktop CPU.

https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-7700HQ-vs-Intel-Core-i7-7700/m211019vs3887

 

and it actually benches more closely to a desktop variation i5 3570 (many generations before the architecture of your chip) because there is a difference between laptop and desktop CPU's (because power and thermal limitations)

https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-7700HQ-vs-Intel-Core-i5-3570/m211019vsm793

 

You have an okay gaming rig, but its nothing that's going to beat down GTA5.

 

Also, how are your thermals?  That and running off an HDD are likely the issue.  Make sure to run GTA5 on the SSD.  If you are short memory RAM or VRAM you want it to quickly retrieve it from the SSD, not find it on the HDD (the 1 second freeze).

 

[juanditos]

2 minutes ago, Tristerin said:

 

If your motherboard has 2 DIMM slots available, and only 1 is occupied by 1 stick of DDR4 SODIMM RAM it is running in "Single Channel Mode" - when you put another stick of ram in, it will then run in "Dual Channel Mode".  

 

I recommend getting the same exact RAM because, if you don't, it may not play nice together (but unlikely that it wouldn't work together, the real reason comes next) or the better RAM stick will have to downclock itself to the lesser of the two sticks frequency and timings.

 

Also understand that while you have an i7 7700HQ (note the HQ), and i7's are all the rage - its not the same chip as an i7-7700 desktop CPU.

https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-7700HQ-vs-Intel-Core-i7-7700/m211019vs3887

 

and it actually benches more closely to a desktop variation i5 3570 (many generations before the architecture of your chip) because there is a difference between laptop and desktop CPU's (because power and thermal limitations)

https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-7700HQ-vs-Intel-Core-i5-3570/m211019vsm793

 

You have an okay gaming rig, but its nothing that's going to beat down GTA5.

 

so buying the single channel stick in amazon is fine? since for me theres an actual 10 euro price difference and i dont want to be scammed altough its not alot of money every bit saved is worth it for me since i aint got any big stacks laying around, and i dont need to beat down GTA5 i can run it on high settings easily, just my memmory fucking it up for me, and i was aware that laptop parts are nowhere near the level of pc parts, which i didnt know when i bought it so rip me. does it btw actually matter to my ram what my cpu benches? i mean i know ram feeds the cpu the info it processess but u saying my i7hq cant take 16gbs of ram or whatchu mean? but if it doesnt matter what stick i buy i will just get the single channel and finnally be ok for the upcomming future on most games. and thanks for the help guys i really appreciate u all! happy to see u guys are welcome to help newbies to this like me (from holland so i try my very best with english) 

[Mister Woof]

Should be fine if they are same memory size/standard

 

They will run at the highest common speed/timing, which if they are different speeds (2133 and 2400, they with both run 2133)

[Tristerin]

1 hour ago, juanditos said:

so buying the single channel stick in amazon is fine? since for me theres an actual 10 euro price difference and i dont want to be scammed altough its not alot of money every bit saved is worth it for me since i aint got any big stacks laying around, and i dont need to beat down GTA5 i can run it on high settings easily, just my memmory fucking it up for me, and i was aware that laptop parts are nowhere near the level of pc parts, which i didnt know when i bought it so rip me. does it btw actually matter to my ram what my cpu benches? i mean i know ram feeds the cpu the info it processess but u saying my i7hq cant take 16gbs of ram or whatchu mean? but if it doesnt matter what stick i buy i will just get the single channel and finnally be ok for the upcomming future on most games. and thanks for the help guys i really appreciate u all! happy to see u guys are welcome to help newbies to this like me (from holland so i try my very best with english) 

Yes if your motherboard supports 2 DIMM slots and 1 is empty, I haven't looked into your rig far enough

[juanditos]

1 minute ago, Tristerin said:

Yes if your motherboard supports 2 DIMM slots and 1 is empty, I haven't looked into your rig far enough

it supports SODIMM ofc because laptop, but it has indeed 1 filled 1 empty so im buying tommorow. thanks lads

[Mister Woof]

20 minutes ago, juanditos said:

it supports SODIMM ofc because laptop, but it has indeed 1 filled 1 empty so im buying tommorow. thanks lads

get one more and it will help