Please Convince Me On GPU Upgrade

[_Hustler_One_]

Hi..

I always wanted to get the maximum graphical quality with highest FPS possible on my 1080p 144 Hz monitor. Because it's nonsense to play lower graphical setting on 1080p monitor while we are at 4k era.

 

The main goal is maximum graphical quality with highest fps possible, or just simply maxing out my monitor potential.

 

The game I play are only "World of Tanks" and "Monster Hunter: World", those 2 are the only game I'm interested with. they are played on GTX 1060 6Gb.

 

The WoT never give me issue in term of quality and performance, I can get around 120 fps with highest graphical quality, I can go all out of the setting for WoT.

 

But not on Monster Hunter World. Its lattest updates includes HD texture is taxing more than 6Gb of VRAM of my GPU, and It stutters heavily when I maxed out the settings. Before the game received the HD texture updates I can get 60-85 fps with highest setting. Now I have the option to enjoy the game with better graphical quality but my GPU no longer can handle it.

 

I was considering RTX 2060 as a stronger GPU, but its 6Gb VRAM is just not convinced me enough for long term and future gaming, as I want to stay with a GPU as long as possible before I need to upgrade it when It starts unable to run the highest standard on my monitor.

 

I'm really confused which GPU to get to replace 1060 6G without being overkill, while 2060 is what I explained above, RTX 2070 is not worth the value but it has 8Gb VRAM which I need, the older GTX 1070/Ti all has 8Gb which I need, and are used and unavailable in new condition, or Vega 56 with my current Corsair TX650M PSU inside a relatively small enclosure, and unsure how long they will serve me well for long term use without warranty because old and used.

 

I'm just on a dead end, and need someone who can strongly convince me which GPU to get. I feel like I'm in a position where I'm being forced to get the bad value of RTX 2070 just to get more VRAM for long term use and future gaming (to receive updates and updates of my current favorite game) before the next GPU upgrade.

 

I'm open to any opinions and suggestions, please..

[Sorenson]

I'm not sure its your vram that is the issue. I recommend downloading MSI afterburner, launching the game, and scrolling through it to see what the bottleneck is. I believe reviews of the rtx 2060 said no game at 1440p is using 6gb of vram right now. 

[_Hustler_One_]

18 hours ago, Sorenson said:

I'm not sure its your vram that is the issue. I recommend downloading MSI afterburner, launching the game, and scrolling through it to see what the bottleneck is. I believe reviews of the rtx 2060 said no game at 1440p is using 6gb of vram right now. 

When I'm on the Monster Hunter World setting menu to set the setting to highest, there is information below the menu which says the VRAM usage in certain setting, it changes in realtime according to the setting changes to give us the idea of the possible output we expect. The in-game performance is obvious to me that 4Gb VRAM usage before and 6Gb VRAM usage after the HD texture at 1080p, and it stutters heavily now.

 

Before the update, I get 60-85 fps maxed out smooth frames, but now 50-60 fps but stutters heavily..

[Jurrunio]

when did I last say mITX towers are waste of time

 

Get Vega 56 and undervolt as much as possible

[_Hustler_One_]

2 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

when did I last say mITX towers are waste of time

 

Get Vega 56 and undervolt as much as possible

Are they still available in new condition?

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15 minutes ago, _Hustler_One_ said:

I was considering RTX 2060 as a stronger GPU but its 6Gb VRAM is just not convinced me enough for long term and future gaming as I want to stay with a GPU as long as possible before I need to upgrade it when It starts unable to handel the highest standart on my monitor.

agree that anything over 2060 is not worth the price.

see if you lucky enough to find a vega 56, otherwise grab a 2060 for now

[Sorenson]

3 minutes ago, _Hustler_One_ said:

When I'm on the Monster Hunter World setting menu to set the setting to highest, there is information below the menu which says the VRAM usage in certain setting, it changes in realtime according the setting changes to give us the idea of the possible output we expect. The in-game performance is obvious to me that 4Gb VRAM usage before and 6Gb VRAM usage after the HD texture at 1080p, and it stutters heavily now.

 

Before the update, I get 60-85 fps maxed out smooth frames, but now 60 fps but stutters heavily..

Yes, it is likely the 6gb of vram. You should still download MSI afterburner to verify (its a free program that every enthusiast should have). With MSI afterburner you can also easily overclock your VRAM by around +250-300 MHZ which might alleviate the issue. 

[_Hustler_One_]

6 minutes ago, Sorenson said:

Yes, it is likely the 6gb of vram. You should still download MSI afterburner to verify (its a free program that every enthusiast should have). With MSI afterburner you can also easily overclock your VRAM by around +250-300 MHZ which might alleviate the issue. 

Here is my GPU OC stats, it's heavily OCed at +230 core and +550 memory, and I run the RTSS overlay to monitor the hardware parameters in game with it..

I run this OC far before the HD texture updates of Monster Hunter World.

 

[Jurrunio]

2 minutes ago, _Hustler_One_ said:

Are they still available in new condition?

in the US at least you can still buy them, though models aren't nearly as plenty as RX 580 or 2060.

[Sorenson]

3 minutes ago, _Hustler_One_ said:

Here is my GPU OC stats, it's heavily OCed at +230 core and +550 memory, and I run the RTSS overlay to monitor the hardware parameters in game with it..

I run this OC far before the HD texture updates of Monster Hunter World.

 

Holly crap, I can’t believe a 1080p game is using more than 6gb of VRAM. You can get a Vega 56 for like 300$ right now.

[_Hustler_One_]

2 minutes ago, Sorenson said:

I can’t believe a 1080p game is using more than 6gb of VRAM

Ikr.. It's crazy updates. The highest quality of texture in MHW before the HD texture update was ugly af. Now I get eye candy but unfortunately my hardware is crying on it..

[_Hustler_One_]

10 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

in the US at least you can still buy them, though models aren't nearly as plenty as RX 580 or 2060.

How about RX 590?

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Just now, _Hustler_One_ said:

How about RX 590?

too little perf gain from a gtx1060, same goes go gtx1660ti

[Jurrunio]

1 minute ago, _Hustler_One_ said:

How about RX 590?

 

https://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/gpu_displays/powercolor_red_devil_rx_590_review/14

 

Not worth the effort or money.

 

[_Hustler_One_]

2 minutes ago, dgsddfgdfhgs said:

too little perf gain from a gtx1060, same goes go gtx1660ti

All the GTX 16xx are 6Gb VRAM

[_Hustler_One_]

1 minute ago, Jurrunio said:

 

https://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/gpu_displays/powercolor_red_devil_rx_590_review/14

 

Not worth the effort or money.

 

The best Vega 56 I can found in new condition in my area is the SAPPHIRE NITRO+ for $357. Is the number worth it?

[Jurrunio]

4 minutes ago, _Hustler_One_ said:

The best Vega 56 I can found in new condition in my area is the SAPPHIRE NITRO+ for $357. Is the number worth it?

are the not so good ones blower cards? It's worth upgrading to but of course there's no upper limit for better deals

[Sorenson]

4 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

are the not so good ones blower cards? It's worth upgrading to but of course there's no upper limit for better deals

Dual fan, and $299 on Amazon US

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/cKhKHx/sapphire-radeon-rx-vega-56-2gb-pulse-video-card-11276-02-40g

[Jurrunio]

2 minutes ago, Sorenson said:

Dual fan, and $299 on Amazon US

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/cKhKHx/sapphire-radeon-rx-vega-56-2gb-pulse-video-card-11276-02-40g

if PCPP US applies to OP then I wont have to ask

[_Hustler_One_]

56 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

if PCPP US applies to OP then I wont have to ask

No, the PCPP doesnt apply in my area.

 

The $357 is the 3 fans variant. That's the cheapest Nitro+ Vega 56 new in here..

But it needs 3x 8 pins power, will my TX650M able to power it?

 

Nvm, I contacted the seller, the stock is empty..

[Jurrunio]

8 minutes ago, _Hustler_One_ said:

But it needs 3x 8 pins power, will my TX650M able to power it?

yes, though I'm not totally sure it fits in your case. Make sure you undervolt it

[_Hustler_One_]

12 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

yes, though I'm not totally sure it fits in your case. Make sure you undervolt it

Which Nvidia is equivalent to Vega 56?

 

My case can take full length GPU but limited to only 2 slots thick.

[Jurrunio]

Just now, _Hustler_One_ said:

Which Nvidia is equivalent to Vega 56?

1070ti and 2060 for performance, 2070 in memory, 2080 in power draw

[_Hustler_One_]

13 minutes ago, PacketMan said:

You claim that the 6GB of VRAM of the 2060 isn't enough

Im not saying it's not enough, It's just can't convince me strong enough, even it's the faster GPU than my current one.  The 1070/Ti, like I said, I'm not sure of how long they will serve me by its age and out of warranty for long term use before the next future upgrade depends on game updates..

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1 minute ago, _Hustler_One_ said:

I'm not sure of how long they will serve me by its age and out of warranty for long term use before the next future upgrade depends on game updates..

think in another way, how long are you willing to spend & wait for next gpu upgrade?

you know the trend of nvidia cards. next gen 1 tier lower model -current gen model.

also dont be bound by vram, raw performance comes first, (eg 1060 3gb better than 1050ti 4gb)