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21 hours ago, trevb0t said:

If it were me with $500 for a GPU, I'd still grab the Vega 64. The gains on the 2070 are only marginal in most use cases, if it even tops it. 

This current model wasn't on sale when the post originated that I saw, but is what I'd go with right now.

 

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/MssmP6/sapphire-radeon-rx-vega-64-8gb-nitro-video-card-11275-03-40g

Hello, so this is probably going to be the final build unless you find anything else worth upgrading.
I was told that I should go for the 2700 and OC so it performs like a 2700x however I said "I am not confident with OC", so he pointed out that XFR will do most of the work; I have briefly looked this up however just wanted to know if you know anything about. 
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/Finley_Crofts/saved/BtXPnQ


I have upgraded the fans - (somebody suggested the ones I put in however you can change them if you want to, (colour scheme etc)
Don't know if I should go for a cheaper SSD, probably just leave it.
Stuck with the nitro+.
Not sure about the PSU, think it is alright.

Please say if you have any suggestions! 

image.png.3ebc0aa44be6c9fb405f3ce4e030b493.pngHello everyone, this is my new pc build and I was just wondering if anybody could help with a few things and also see about the CPU as I have seen a lot of people say r7 2700 is not always the best option.

 

I have been told to change my psu so I have changed it to an EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 550 W 80+ Gold, please tell me if this is okay or not.
 

I have also been told that I don't need an x470 motherboard however I am really bad with them so I am struggling to find a suitable one. 

If you have any options for better components please leave a message.

(I have all my hard drives, just need an extra ssd)

 

My budget is only £1200!?

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I like it so far, outside of the 2070.  What resolution are you going to play in? 

 

You can shed a few bucks here and there, but it's a solid build if those parts are what you want.

 

The 2700 is slower than the 2600 but has more cores.   For gaming, the 2600 is a touch better, but the 2700 is a solid CPU for all things.

 

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r7 2700 is not always the best option - depends on your needs and budget, i would say the 2600 is also a good choice.

x470 -> unless you wanna overclock, the b450 is just as good.

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11 minutes ago, Finley_Crofts said:

image.png.3ebc0aa44be6c9fb405f3ce4e030b493.pngHello everyone, this is my new pc build and I was just wondering if anybody could help with a few things and also see about the CPU as I have seen a lot of people say r7 2700 is not always the best option.

 

I have been told to change my psu so I have changed it to an EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 550 W 80+ Gold, please tell me if this is okay or not.
 

I have also been told that I don't need an x470 motherboard however I am really bad with them so I am struggling to find a suitable one. 

If you have any options for better components please leave a message.

(I have all my hard drives, just need an extra ssd)

 

My budget is only £1200!?

What's your budget and what are all the things you plan to do with the build?

The Ryzen 2700 is great if you plan to do any kind of productivity. It can still game well though, but if you plan to only game. You'd be better buying intel, unless you really want an upgrade path to Ryzen 3000 coming out in 2 months.
You don't need a X470. A B450 is nearly identical and cheaper to the X470. What you pay for in the X470 is 2 more USBs, more stable overclocks, so you'd get a slightly better OC, and a technology called StoreMI. StoreMI is designed to increase speeds on a mechanical drive.. so it's useless.
RAM is fine
SSD is good
2070 is fine if you plan to game at high resolutions and/or high refresh rates.
Case is good
PSU is fine

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You should never be paying nearly £600 for a 2070, it's crazy. Instead by going to vega 64, we get 10% less performance but we keep a high quality cooler (It's arguably the best vega 64 cooler design of all) and maintain the 8gb vram that the 2070 has. It's an amazing price and it saves loads of money. By the money saved we can go to a 1tb ssd and a higher capacity 750w rmx psu to help with the extra power consumption of the vega card (I've had it at 750w in case you wanted to overclock, gives a bit of space instead of 650w). And it's still nearly £200 cheaper for the same performance.

 

And if you're solely a gamer and don't need 8 cores, then this is more appropriate (It's far far better for the price):

We change the 2700 to a 6 core 2600, but upgrade the gpu to a Radeon VIi. That gives you an extra 30% or so in performance. If you're doing a bit of everything, the top build is the better choice. But if you're solely gaming, this one is better.

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6 minutes ago, Abyssal Radon said:

Build looks good, except I would consider looking at Intel's offerings if you plan on just gaming. AMD Ryzen processors are still behind Intel with respect to gaming performance. However, if you plan on doing more than just gaming, then the computer is perfect. Perhaps, hold off for AMD's next CPU lineup coming out soon (hopefully). Also, you might want to do some homework with what games you plan on playing and at what resolution/refresh rate. You could save a couple of bucks with going with a less expensive GPU or a AMD GPU, if you go AMD, you should consider looking into a Free-Sync gaming display.

Hi, thanks for responding :)
I did just realize that the GPU is very expensive for what I want to do, 1080p. So I will change the GPU (please say if you have any recommendations).
I am actually considering going with Intel as I will mostly game on this Computer along with doing some work, not too sure for what Intel CPU I should go for though.

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28 minutes ago, jstudrawa said:

I like it so far, outside of the 2070.  What resolution are you going to play in? 

 

You can shed a few bucks here and there, but it's a solid build if those parts are what you want.

 

The 2700 is slower than the 2600 but has more cores.   For gaming, the 2600 is a touch better, but the 2700 is a solid CPU for all things.

 

I am only playing in 1080p and realized that this GPU isn't for me as (i think) this card is best if you are playing at high resolutions.
I will be playing mostly games on this. If I do stick with AMD I might consider 2600 if you recommend it, and also changing up my Graphics  

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25 minutes ago, MeatFeastMan said:

You should never be paying nearly £600 for a 2070, it's crazy. Instead by going to vega 64, we get 10% less performance but we keep a high quality cooler (It's arguably the best vega 64 cooler design of all) and maintain the 8gb vram that the 2070 has. It's an amazing price and it saves loads of money. By the money saved we can go to a 1tb ssd and a higher capacity 750w rmx psu to help with the extra power consumption of the vega card (I've had it at 750w in case you wanted to overclock, gives a bit of space instead of 650w). And it's still nearly £200 cheaper for the same performance.

 

And if you're solely a gamer and don't need 8 cores, then this is more appropriate (It's far far better for the price):

We change the 2700 to a 6 core 2600, but upgrade the gpu to a Radeon VIi. That gives you an extra 30% or so in performance. If you're doing a bit of everything, the top build is the better choice. But if you're solely gaming, this one is better.

Hi, thanks a lot for these builds. I was thinking of going to the 2600 or even Intel, I will be doing mostly gaming on this however I will do some work, so if I pick one of these should I go for the top?

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1 minute ago, Finley_Crofts said:

Hi, thanks a lot for these builds. I was thinking of going to the 2600 or even Intel, I will be doing mostly gaming on this however I will do some work, so if I pick one of these should I go for the top?

Well it depends on the non-gaming stuff that you're doing. If it's heavy video editing, heavy rendering then I suggest the 8 core system. If not and it's light basic work, then the 6 core is okay. I'm not saying the 6 core is bad at the heavy stuff, but you will benefit a lot from going to the 8 core.

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23 minutes ago, Finley_Crofts said:

I am only playing in 1080p and realized that this GPU isn't for me as (i think) this card is best if you are playing at high resolutions.
I will be playing mostly games on this. If I do stick with AMD I might consider 2600 if you recommend it, and also changing up my Graphics  

Here is a perfectly worthy 1080p (Ultra) build:

Here is an Intel build as well (mostly the same.) It's a bit more costly, since I wouldn't personally buy a locked CPU. The 9400f would provide a savings, but at the cost of overclockability and base clock speed. So a less future worthy chip.

 

The Intel PC will pull better framerates, but both builds will play 1080p Ultra settings without issue (AC Odyssey and the new Metro game may be tough, since they are beating a ton of GPUs asses.) The AMD will be favored by most productivity software, although some do still favor Intel.

 

(Edit: Somehow landed with 2 CPU coolers on the Intel build. Fixed. Better price.)

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2 hours ago, MeatFeastMan said:

You should never be paying nearly £600 for a 2070, it's crazy. Instead by going to vega 64, we get 10% less performance but we keep a high quality cooler (It's arguably the best vega 64 cooler design of all) and maintain the 8gb vram that the 2070 has. It's an amazing price and it saves loads of money. By the money saved we can go to a 1tb ssd and a higher capacity 750w rmx psu to help with the extra power consumption of the vega card (I've had it at 750w in case you wanted to overclock, gives a bit of space instead of 650w). And it's still nearly £200 cheaper for the same performance.

 

And if you're solely a gamer and don't need 8 cores, then this is more appropriate (It's far far better for the price):

We change the 2700 to a 6 core 2600, but upgrade the gpu to a Radeon VIi. That gives you an extra 30% or so in performance. If you're doing a bit of everything, the top build is the better choice. But if you're solely gaming, this one is better.

Isn't the video card and psu a bit op? (bottom one)

 

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4 minutes ago, Finley_Crofts said:

Isn't the video card and psu a bit op? (bottom one)

 

The VII is comparable to a 2080ish. It's a great card.

Powercolor coolers are straight up poopballs (I've got a Red Dragon)

This would be for heavy 1440p or even 4k gaming.

 

But frankly, it would last you years as a solid GPU, so there's that.

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24 minutes ago, trevb0t said:

The VII is comparable to a 2080ish. It's a great card.

Powercolor coolers are straight up poopballs (I've got a Red Dragon)

This would be for heavy 1440p or even 4k gaming.

 

But frankly, it would last you years as a solid GPU, so there's that.

I was just thinking with that build its kindof op however it is a very good card and as you said will last years.


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What do you think about this build, me and two other people came up with it however I  want to see your opinion on it. Prob add a cpu cooler to replace the stock not sure. It is cheaper however I am only wanting to play 1080p at the end of the day and I might upgrade that soon depending on how things go.

 

 

And also My friend is asking which cpu would be better for streaming 2600x or r7 2700

 

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40 minutes ago, Finley_Crofts said:

I was just thinking with that build its kindof op however it is a very good card and as you said will last years.


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What do you think about this build, me and two other people came up with it however I  want to see your opinion on it. Prob add a cpu cooler to replace the stock not sure. It is cheaper however I am only wanting to play 1080p at the end of the day and I might upgrade that soon depending on how things go.

 

 

And also My friend is asking which cpu would be better for streaming 2600x or r7 2700

 

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Do you plan to overclock the CPU? Is it for gaming only, or is there any productivity going on?

 

I think either would stream just fine. The core difference is 2 (so 4 less threads.) That said, the 2600X has a nicer core clock speed. They would be within a few percentile difference on the gaming front, and a bit better for streaming on the 2700 side.

 

I would personally make some changes.

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Changes:

  • A badass cooler for your CPU, so you can OC that thing. Very solid piece.
  • The Tomahawk is much less pricey and a great OCing board. Use it!
  • Instead of the RTX 2070 (overkill for 1080p, and overpriced.) I opted for a Vega 64 which trades blows with it anyway (and this one's factory overclocked to boot.) Saves about $80. The 2060 or Vega 56 would be substancially less also and still game hard at 1080p. (If I were buying, I'd get this 64.)
  • The non -i version of this case is 30 bucks less... Went with that. If there is a reason the i is super superior, just check me. I don't personally love the case choice, since no intake fans are included. You'll need to grab some to get positive airflow in there to support your components. That's not pricey, though.
  • In this build, since the OC potential is similar on both chips, let's favor the 2700 for the extra cores/threads. If we were going based on core clock, I'd go 2600X.

This is still technically more for 1440p Ultra... But it will have a little future proof built in for the price, a little more nutsack for the streaming potential, or an upgrade path in a 1440p monitor. I'd say this is heavy bang for the buck.

 

860 Evo is very well priced out there compared to other brands. Good find! 

RMx 550 is a solid PSU for the price. Good find! (Could also grab BitFenix 550 or 650 for similar price and performance.)

Can't argue the RAM pricing and choice.

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1 hour ago, trevb0t said:

Changes:

  • A badass cooler for your CPU, so you can OC that thing. Very solid piece.
  • The Tomahawk is much less pricey and a great OCing board. Use it!
  • Instead of the RTX 2070 (overkill for 1080p, and overpriced.) I opted for a Vega 64 which trades blows with it anyway (and this one's factory overclocked to boot.) Saves about $80. The 2060 or Vega 56 would be substancially less also and still game hard at 1080p. (If I were buying, I'd get this 64.)
  • The non -i version of this case is 30 bucks less... Went with that. If there is a reason the i is super superior, just check me. I don't personally love the case choice, since no intake fans are included. You'll need to grab some to get positive airflow in there to support your components. That's not pricey, though.
  • In this build, since the OC potential is similar on both chips, let's favor the 2700 for the extra cores/threads. If we were going based on core clock, I'd go 2600X.

This is still technically more for 1440p Ultra... But it will have a little future proof built in for the price, a little more nutsack for the streaming potential, or an upgrade path in a 1440p monitor. I'd say this is heavy bang for the buck.

 

860 Evo is very well priced out there compared to other brands. Good find! 

RMx 550 is a solid PSU for the price. Good find! (Could also grab BitFenix 550 or 650 for similar price and performance.)

Can't argue the RAM pricing and choice.

Thanks a lot, @trevb0t, you have helped me a lot within this process of making my new pc.
And I don't really plan on OverClocking mainly because I don't trust my self and the fact that if I break It I can't get a refund due to me OC, however, when I learn about it, I will try (prob in the next month).


This pc will mostly be aimed towards gaming and some work for school etc, I don't tend to edit as much as I used to, however, the r7 2700 will be fine either way won't it.
If you have any suggestions for a case please say because I am struggling massively to find one I like.  
 

Thanks Again :)

 

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18 minutes ago, Finley_Crofts said:

Thanks a lot, @trevb0t, you have helped me a lot within this process of making my new pc.
And I don't really plan on OverClocking mainly because I don't trust my self and the fact that if I break It I can't get a refund due to me OC, however, when I learn about it, I will try (prob in the next month).


This pc will mostly be aimed towards gaming and some work for school etc, I don't tend to edit as much as I used to, however, the r7 2700 will be fine either way won't it.
If you have any suggestions for a case please say because I am struggling massively to find one I like.  
 

Thanks Again :)

 

Hey, if you don't plan to OC, you'd probably enjoy the higher core clocks on either the 2700X or the 2600X. Let's adjust and look at that.

 

As for the sex appeal, I just made a very sexy all black and white build using this very case. (You actually turned me on to it!)

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Total with the 2600X: 1042

With the 2700X: 1143

 

Since you don't want to OC, I'd grab an X series (again for faster core clocks.) The 2700X having a really nice 3.7mhz and an extra 2 cores / 4 threads. Extra oomph for the gaming and streaming. I still think the 2600X would be sufficient for 1080p and even 1440p.

IF that fits in the budget, it's a great buy. This build is a touch indulgent, since the aim is fully black and white. (Though in terms of the competing build, it's only a 40 buck difference.) A good portion of that coming from the MOBO itself, since it's a sexy white for the other elements to play off of. Another 10 of that is the GPU, which is an upgrade worth more than 10 bucks either way. So I would say it's justified!

 

The two fans listed will go in the front of the case, since this includes a rear and top exhaust. This will provide nice airflow, and since there will not be an OC the stock CPU cooler will do just fine (and hey! It's black!)

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10 hours ago, trevb0t said:

Total with the 2600X: 1042

With the 2700X: 1143

 

Since you don't want to OC, I'd grab an X series (again for faster core clocks.) The 2700X having a really nice 3.7mhz and an extra 2 cores / 4 threads. Extra oomph for the gaming and streaming. I still think the 2600X would be sufficient for 1080p and even 1440p.

IF that fits in the budget, it's a great buy. This build is a touch indulgent, since the aim is fully black and white. (Though in terms of the competing build, it's only a 40 buck difference.) A good portion of that coming from the MOBO itself, since it's a sexy white for the other elements to play off of. Another 10 of that is the GPU, which is an upgrade worth more than 10 bucks either way. So I would say it's justified!

 

The two fans listed will go in the front of the case, since this includes a rear and top exhaust. This will provide nice airflow, and since there will not be an OC the stock CPU cooler will do just fine (and hey! It's black!)

Thanks a lot for this build, I will be able to go for the 2700x seen as my budget is about £1200 - £1300, I also like the design you have gone for as well.
Just been searching up the case and I heard that the front can fit 140mm fans and some say it doesn't, however, I'm pretty sure the front you can fit 140mm and rest can be 120mm fans.
I haven't really searched up the new graphics and I am a bit busy today, so if you can just tell me the key changes (to the graphics) I would appreciate it.
 

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1 hour ago, Finley_Crofts said:

Thanks a lot for this build, I will be able to go for the 2700x seen as my budget is about £1200 - £1300, I also like the design you have gone for as well.
Just been searching up the case and I heard that the front can fit 140mm fans and some say it doesn't, however, I'm pretty sure the front you can fit 140mm and rest can be 120mm fans.
I haven't really searched up the new graphics and I am a bit busy today, so if you can just tell me the key changes (to the graphics) I would appreciate it.
 

The case manufacturer lists the front intake as fitting both 2x120mm and 2x140mm fans, so I went with the larger to better utilize the space. The top fits 140mm as well, but comes with a 120mm stock and another 120mm on the rear. Hence just the two for the front.

 

The graphics card is the same as suggested before (Vega 64, again comparable to an RTX 2070) it just has a better cooler on it (The Strix is pretty damn nice, and usually pretty expensive, so that's a good sale.) The pcpartpicker shows this model as having some red coloration, but the actual site selling it shows an all black model (nice for the build theme!)

 

If any of these posts is super helpful, be sure to mark it as the answer to the question btw!

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55 minutes ago, trevb0t said:

The case manufacturer lists the front intake as fitting both 2x120mm and 2x140mm fans, so I went with the larger to better utilize the space. The top fits 140mm as well, but comes with a 120mm stock and another 120mm on the rear. Hence just the two for the front.

 

The graphics card is the same as suggested before (Vega 64, again comparable to an RTX 2070) it just has a better cooler on it (The Strix is pretty damn nice, and usually pretty expensive, so that's a good sale.) The pcpartpicker shows this model as having some red coloration, but the actual site selling it shows an all black model (nice for the build theme!)

 

If any of these posts is super helpful, be sure to mark it as the answer to the question btw!

Looking at some benchmarks and stuff I have noticed it maxes at a core speed of 1500; some people say this is slow for a vega 64 however I am not that experienced with AMD etc.
For the fans, I just wanted to double check because I was pretty sure they could support 140mm, so thanks for that.  :)

Other than this everything looks okay, I will double check on it later though just to be sure.

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5 hours ago, Finley_Crofts said:

Looking at some benchmarks and stuff I have noticed it maxes at a core speed of 1500; some people say this is slow for a vega 64 however I am not that experienced with AMD etc.
For the fans, I just wanted to double check because I was pretty sure they could support 140mm, so thanks for that.  :)

Other than this everything looks okay, I will double check on it later though just to be sure.

Core speed isn't everything. A good cooling solution (like the Strix) just means more overclock potential, and less noise when stressed. A good blower will help eliminate static air in the case as well. At stock a Vega 64 will beast its way through what you're gonna throw at it, my dude!

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2 hours ago, trevb0t said:

Core speed isn't everything. A good cooling solution (like the Strix) just means more overclock potential, and less noise when stressed. A good blower will help eliminate static air in the case as well. At stock a Vega 64 will beast its way through what you're gonna throw at it, my dude!

I know core speed isn't "everything", however, when I talked about the card on other forums everybody kept on talking about it so I just wanted to double check it was fine.
I'm am perfectly aware that the card is also suitable for all my needs even at 1440p.

With this current build, I am very happy with it, I will do a final check tomorrow along with some other peoples opinion. Then I will mark it has solved.

 

If you have any upgrades in mind, what stays within my budget or even go a bit over please say and I will check.
Thanks For All Your Help & See You Tomorrow (message):) 

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