New Workstation Build Help

[TSL]

I am building a pc for a friend and need some affirmation on some parts choices.

(All parts should be purchased in New Zealand)

 

This build is for creative and workstation style workloads - mostly video and music production with the adobe suite being his main applications. Specifically, the main apps being; Premiere/media encoder, davinci resolve, after effects, audition, illustrator and Avid media composer. As well as this, he will be doing casual modelling work in AutoDesk Maya and Blender however this workload is significantly less than the other. Also other music apps and photoshop will be used but they are not particularly demanding.

 

The budget for this build is approximately NZD$4000 which includes a high end, colour calibrated monitor.

 

Despite having access to an AMD Ryzen Threadripper 1950X at NZD $900, I have chosen to go with Intel i7-9900K (NZD $830) on the mainstream platform, purely due to a few forums saying that Ryzen has stuttering issues particularly in some adobe applications such as time line scrubbing in premiere. Also apparently Avid does not officially support Ryzen and has compatibility issues.

 

Should I be looking outside of the intel mainstream platform? Perhaps towards the HEDT (budget permitting). Can anyone offer any alternative perspectives to the Ryzen and Adobe/avid performance issues?

 

With the GPU; from research, I was under the impression that the higher you go, the diminishing returns become significant and he won’t be gaming so does not need huge graphics power but will likely need lots of VRAM. (Minimum 8GB). I currently have my eye on a stock standard RTX2070 due to them being better value at the lower end for these types of workloads but should I be looking at workstation style cards? Quadros for example. Or even AMD cards?

 

He will be keeping most of his files on external storage so does anyone have any suggestions regarding motherboards that have onboard thunderbolt (I believe this means limited to intel platforms? I may be corrected).

 

Build suggestions are welcome.

Here is the mock-up: 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type	Item	Price
CPU	Intel - Core i9-9900K 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor	$839.00 @ 1stWave Technologies
CPU Cooler	Noctua - NH-D15 82.5 CFM CPU Cooler	$174.34 @ Paradigm PCs
Motherboard	Gigabyte - Z390 AORUS PRO WIFI ATX LGA1151 Motherboard	$377.00 @ 1stWave Technologies
Memory	Corsair - Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory	$439.00 @ 1stWave Technologies
Storage	Samsung - 860 Evo 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive	$135.00 @ 1stWave Technologies
Storage	Seagate - Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	$104.00 @ 1stWave Technologies
Video Card	Gigabyte - GeForce RTX 2070 8 GB WINDFORCE Video Card	$839.05 @ PC Force
Case	Phanteks - Enthoo Pro M Tempered Glass (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case	$165.00 @ 1stWave Technologies
Power Supply	EVGA - SuperNOVA G3 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply	$208.00 @ 1stWave Technologies
Operating System	Microsoft - Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit	$225.00 @ 1stWave Technologies
Other	Philips 328P6AUBREB/75	$688.85 @ PB Technologies
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$4194.24
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-04-09 09:46 NZST+1200

 

[LTX]

might want to change that power supply, I chose the same one for a potential build and I was highly advised not to, apparently the g3 has problems

[Eastman51]

7 minutes ago, TSL said:

Memory	Corsair - Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory	$439.00 @ 1stWave Technologies
Power Supply	EVGA - SuperNOVA G3 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply	$208.00 @ 1stWave Technologies

Corsair RAM isn't that great. I've had a lot of issues with mine, and know some people who had similar issues.

 

And you don't need that much wattage. And fyi, Gigabyte boards are meh.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type	Item	Price
CPU	Intel - Core i9-9900K 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor	$839.00 @ 1stWave Technologies
CPU Cooler	Noctua - NH-D15 82.5 CFM CPU Cooler	$174.34 @ Paradigm PCs
Motherboard	Asus - TUF Z390-PLUS GAMING (WI-FI) ATX LGA1151 Motherboard	$299.95 @ Computer Lounge
Memory	G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory	$171.35 @ PB Technologies
Memory	G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory	$171.35 @ PB Technologies
Storage	Samsung - 860 Evo 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive	$135.00 @ 1stWave Technologies
Storage	Seagate - Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	$104.00 @ 1stWave Technologies
Video Card	Gigabyte - GeForce RTX 2070 8 GB WINDFORCE Video Card	$839.05 @ PC Force
Case	Phanteks - Enthoo Pro M Tempered Glass (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case	$165.00 @ 1stWave Technologies
Power Supply	SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply	$199.95 @ Computer Lounge
Operating System	Microsoft - Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit	$225.00 @ 1stWave Technologies
Other	Philips 328P6AUBREB/75	$688.85 @ PB Technologies
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$4012.84
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-04-09 09:59 NZST+1200

 

[Optane^]

Use this for your PSU. - https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIAFVF75E0931&Description=rmi&cm_re=rmi-_-17-139-138-_-Product

 

Also, do you really need a $300 Mobo? If you're not overclocking save some cash and get the Gigabyte pro wifi. ASUS's mobos dropped the ball this gen. (Gigabyte's VRMs are much, much better than most of the ASUS boards this gen). 

 

[Eastman51]

Just now, Optane^ said:

(Gigabyte's VRMs are much, much better than most of the ASUS boards this gen). 

I heard Asus just has meh BIOS

[Optane^]

1 minute ago, Eastman51 said:

I heard Asus just has meh BIOS

I prefer gigabyte over asus currently. 

[Eastman51]

1 minute ago, Optane^ said:

I prefer gigabyte over asus currently. 

Just don't get a Gigabyte Ryzen board, I've heard horror stories about those.

[TSL]

13 minutes ago, Infin1ty said:

might want to change that power supply, I chose the same one for a potential build and I was highly advised not to, apparently the g3 has problems

Based on JohnnyGURU reviews the G3’s seem to be excellent PSUs and my personal experience with EVGA power supplies is good and I haven’t heard otherwise for this line, but thanks for the feedback.

[Eastman51]

1 minute ago, TSL said:

Based on JohnnyGURU reviews the G3’s seem to be excellent PSUs and my personal experience with EVGA power supplies is good and I haven’t heard otherwise for this line, but thanks for the feedback.

You can get away with 650W, you don't need to spend the extra.

You might even be able to do 550W, tbh

[Optane^]

EVGA G3's are in the budget teir on this list. You really wanna spend $200 on a PSU? 

 

The G2's are phenomenal, G3's aren't.

 

 

[TSL]

16 minutes ago, Optane^ said:

Use this for your PSU. - https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIAFVF75E0931&Description=rmi&cm_re=rmi-_-17-139-138-_-Product

 

Also, do you really need a $300 Mobo? If you're not overclocking save some cash and get the Gigabyte pro wifi. ASUS's mobos dropped the ball this gen. (Gigabyte's VRMs are much, much better than most of the ASUS boards this gen). 

[Stefan Payne]

56 minutes ago, TSL said:

This build is for creative and workstation style workloads - mostly video and music production with the adobe suite being his main applications. Specifically, the main apps being; Premiere/media encoder, davinci resolve, after effects, audition, illustrator and Avid media composer. As well as this, he will be doing casual modelling work in AutoDesk Maya and Blender however this workload is significantly less than the other. Also other music apps and photoshop will be used but they are not particularly demanding.

 

You want the Radeon 7 for that instead because of 16GiB VRAM:

 

 

Those Videos might be very interesting to you.

 

As for the Rest: What is in use right now?
Is it possible to wait for the CPU? Because its said that on 27th May the 7nm Ryzen is released, wich might be a good choice for lower price.

The only thing we know is that the CPU presented earlier this year consumes roughly half the power of the 9900K.

[SenKa]

I, too, am planning a workstation build. Mine is a virtualization build using Unraid, so ignore the random sound, ethernet, and extra GPU

 

The Ryzen 9 is using a direct conversion of the Taiwan prices per current leaks, and may change or be totally invalid.

 

 

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gTtpTB
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gTtpTB/by_merchant/

CPU Cooler: be quiet! - Dark Rock Pro 4 50.5 CFM CPU Cooler  ($84.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Motherboard: Asus - ROG CROSSHAIR VI EXTREME EATX AM4 Motherboard  ($175.46 @ OutletPC) 
Memory: G.Skill - Trident Z 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($320.98 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Samsung - PM961 128 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  (Purchased For $20.00) 
Storage: Crucial - MX300 1.05 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (Purchased For $220.00) 
Storage: Western Digital - Red 8 TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive  (Purchased For $120.00) 
Video Card: PowerColor - Radeon VII 16 GB Video Card  ($699.99 @ Amazon) 
Case: Cooler Master - Cosmos ATX Full Tower Case  (Purchased For $20.00) 
Power Supply: be quiet! - DARK POWER PRO 11 850 W 80+ Platinum Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($185.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Optical Drive: Asus - DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer  (Purchased For $62.00) 
Optical Drive: Lite-On - iHOS104-06 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Drive  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Sound Card: Syba - SD-PEX63034 24-bit 48 kHz Sound Card  ($22.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Wired Network Adapter: Syba - SD-PEX24009 PCI-Express x1 1000 Mbit/s Network Adapter  ($11.89 @ OutletPC) 
Case Fan: Noctua - NF-A14 industrialPPC-3000 PWM 158.5 CFM 140mm Fan  ($27.95 @ Amazon) 
Case Fan: Noctua - NF-A14 industrialPPC-3000 PWM 158.5 CFM 140mm Fan  ($27.95 @ Amazon) 
Case Fan: Noctua - NF-A14 industrialPPC-3000 PWM 158.5 CFM 140mm Fan  ($27.95 @ Amazon) 
Case Fan: Noctua - NF-A14 industrialPPC-3000 PWM 158.5 CFM 140mm Fan  ($27.95 @ Amazon) 
External Storage: Seagate - Backup Plus Slim 2 TB External Hard Drive  (Purchased For $20.00) 
Other: Ryzen 9 3850X ($500.00)
Other: Generic DVD-ROM X2 (Purchased For $0.00)
Other: HD5450 (Purchased For $0.00)
Other: Optane Module (Purchased For $20.00)
Total: $2596.09
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-04-08 19:00 EDT-0400

[TSL]

3 hours ago, Stefan Payne said:

As for the Rest: What is in use right now?
Is it possible to wait for the CPU? Because its said that on 27th May the 7nm Ryzen is released, wich might be a good choice for lower price.

The only thing we know is that the CPU presented earlier this year consumes roughly half the power of the 9900K.

Thank you for the videos.

 

Currently he uses a laptop that is a few years old and was a huge limitation in his last project. We can’t wait for the new Ryzen CPU’s as he would like the PC ASAP, preferably within the next week. Also the rumours are for 7th of July for release and an announcement at computex. But they’re all rumours and that range of time frame is too great. I need to work with components that are available today, or within the next few at least.

[TSL]

4 hours ago, Optane^ said:

EVGA G3's are in the budget teir on this list. You really wanna spend $200 on a PSU? 

 

The G2's are phenomenal, G3's aren't.

 

 

The G3’s are not their budget tier. Check out johnnyguru.com for actually PSU reviews. After professional testing it performs incredibly well, 10/10 infact. The G2 is similar and over here in NZ they are the same price. So it makes no difference. I’m happy to stick with the G3. But thanks for the input.

[TSL]

4 hours ago, Eastman51 said:

You can get away with 650W, you don't need to spend the extra.

You might even be able to do 550W, tbh

I can get away with 650w you’re right, but Not 550w. With decent/modest OC the system will draw 500W. That’s far to much strain on the psu, even if it can handle it and will probably have no issues for years. I’ve chosen to go with 750w because of efficiency curves to do with power delivery. Power supplies reach their peak efficiency at around half load. If I see it better to go with an AMD gpu you can add 100-150w to that power draw number.

[brob]

If one is sticking with stock settings a 550W psu would be fine for an i9-9900K. I'd want more capacity for overclocking, especially if one is going to loosen the power limits.

 

8 hours ago, Eastman51 said:

I heard Asus just has meh BIOS

 

Asus has an excellent BIOS. 

 

7 hours ago, TSL said:

Based on JohnnyGURU reviews the G3’s seem to be excellent PSUs and my personal experience with EVGA power supplies is good and I haven’t heard otherwise for this line, but thanks for the feedback.

 

Other sites have expressed concerns with some of the power protections.

 

[Optane^]

9 hours ago, brob said:

If one is sticking with stock settings a 550W psu would be fine for an i9-9900K. I'd want more capacity for overclocking, especially if one is going to loosen the power limits.

 

 

Asus has an excellent BIOS. 

 

 

Other sites have expressed concerns with some of the power protections.

 

Thank you. One website does not make the final answer. Pick your answers from multiple sources.