Help with new CPU choice

[Guest]

I have an i5-6400 2.7GHz CPU and i've had it for around 3 years, I have an msi armoured rx 580 and 16gb DDR4 of ram (8 DDR4 x2) but I feel like I should get a new CPU as my pc has problems with streaming and recording and sometimes playing R6 (only R6) any suggestions?

[Slottr]

How much you wanna spend? You could easily get a used 6700k- but if you want to spend more and want better multitasking performance I'd point you towards an R7 1700 or 2700

[Streetguru]

3 minutes ago, Fushiatic said:

I have an i5-6400 2.7GHz CPU and i've had it for around 3 years, I have an msi armoured rx 580 and 16gb DDR4 of ram (8 DDR4 x2) but I feel like I should get a new CPU as my pc has problems with streaming and recording and sometimes playing R6 (only R6) any suggestions?

What's the budget for new stuff?

 

Ryzen 3000 is out in june/july maybe if you can wait. You can just use AMD's Recording/Streaming software from their drivers.

[Guest]

1 minute ago, Slottr said:

How much you wanna spend? You could easily get a used 6700k- but if you want to spend more and want better multitasking performance I'd point you towards an R7 1700 or 2700

Budget of 200-600 pounds, I dont know a lot about CPUs but I heard if I wanna go AMD from intel I need a new motherboard

[Guest]

1 minute ago, Streetguru said:

What's the budget for new stuff?

 

Ryzen 3000 is out in june/july maybe if you can wait. You can just use AMD's Recording/Streaming software from their drivers.

200-600 Pounds, Do I need a new motherboard to go from intel to ryzen cpus?

[Guest]

2 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

What's the budget for new stuff?

 

Ryzen 3000 is out in june/july maybe if you can wait. You can just use AMD's Recording/Streaming software from their drivers.

Also the drivers have given me issues in the past but i'll check 

[Slottr]

12 hours ago, Fushiatic said:

Budget of 200-600 pounds, I dont know a lot about CPUs but I heard if I wanna go AMD from intel I need a new motherboard

Yep, AM4 boards are not very expensive

[Eastman51]

Just now, Fushiatic said:

200-600 Pounds, Do I need a new motherboard to go from intel to ryzen cpus?

You will need a new motherboard, yes. Your current board has an LGA1151  socket, which is for Intel CPUs. Ryzen uses the AM4 socket, which is fundamentally different.

 

I would recommend getting a Ryzen 5 2600 and a B450 motherboard.

Make sure not to get Gigabyte, their AMD boards are typically on the bad side.

[Streetguru]

1 minute ago, Fushiatic said:

200-600 Pounds, Do I need a new motherboard to go from intel to ryzen cpus?

Ya, but Ryzen's pretty cheap compared to intel, and buying an 8 core CPU + motherboard is as much as a used i7 usually.

That's all you need to upgrade, unless you want to move to an ITX motherboard and case. If money isn't too big of an issue probably just go for it.
 

PCPartPicker part list: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/dNkbdX
Price breakdown by merchant: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/dNkbdX/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3 GHz 8-Core Processor  (£145.98 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - B450 AORUS ELITE ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£90.67 @ CCL Computers)
Total: £236.65
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-04-01 21:19 BST+0100

[Guest]

3 minutes ago, Eastman51 said:

You will need a new motherboard, yes. Your current board has an LGA1151  socket, which is for Intel CPUs. Ryzen uses the AM4 socket, which is fundamentally different.

 

I would recommend getting a Ryzen 5 2600 and a B450 motherboard.

Make sure not to get Gigabyte, their AMD boards are typically on the bad side.

So should I not go for an i7 or something like that?

[Guest]

4 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

Ya, but Ryzen's pretty cheap compared to intel, and buying an 8 core CPU + motherboard is as much as a used i7 usually.

That's all you need to upgrade, unless you want to move to an ITX motherboard and case. If money isn't too big of an issue probably just go for it.
 

PCPartPicker part list: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/dNkbdX
Price breakdown by merchant: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/dNkbdX/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3 GHz 8-Core Processor  (£145.98 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - B450 AORUS ELITE ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£90.67 @ CCL Computers)
Total: £236.65
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-04-01 21:19 BST+0100

What is ITX?

[Eastman51]

Just now, Fushiatic said:

What is ITX?

There are multiple variations of motherboard form factor. Essentially, the form factor indicates how large the motherboard is.

In order from largest to smallest motherboard form factors:

E-ATX
ATX
mATX
mini-ITX

[Eastman51]

3 minutes ago, Fushiatic said:

So should I not go for an i7 or something like that?

You could get an i7-6700. But, those can be fairly expensive, even used ones.

If you were to go Ryzen, you have a better upgrade path since the AM4 platform is new and modern. 6th gen Intel is old enough that your upgrade path is extremely limited at this point.

[Guest]

2 minutes ago, Eastman51 said:

There are multiple variations of motherboard form factor. Essentially, the form factor indicates how large the motherboard is.

In order from largest to smallest motherboard form factors:

E-ATX
ATX
mATX
mini-ITX

Thanks

[Streetguru]

5 minutes ago, Fushiatic said:

What is ITX?

Just a smaller case/motherboard, unless you want to get a capture card later it's nice to have

 

Better to just get the Ryzen 7 8 core over the i7 for pretty much anything. Gaming would be closer between them, but streaming/recording scales with more CPU cores.

[lightning_po]

I have i7-6700k and it's nice, would fit your motherboard without any other upgrades, but it's still dated. Consider waiting till zen 2 comes out. Here's a nice chart:
 

i7-6700k would probably be a good cheaper choice, but unfortunately our socket is dated.

 

EDIT : i7-6700k can be obtained for about $200, going like ryzen 7 2700x would be $300 + new mobo + potentially different ram cuz ryzen is picky. In my opinion, i7-6700k would be the best cost/performance choice given as you don't have to buy more than just a CPU. Another option for around $200-250 would be i7-5960x which has higher multithreaded, but less single threaded than i7-6700k, which means not as good for games, but better for like rendering videos/streaming

Also i7-6700k still beats ryzen 5 2600x in multi-threaded.

[Streetguru]

28 minutes ago, lightning_po said:

 

Just no in general, that website isn't too useful for meaningful CPU comparisons. X99? why?

 

Ryzen can use any DDR4 just fine, it's only when you get into memory overclocking that you really want B-die, but bios updates have mostly fixed the issues.
 

The Ryzen 6 core/12 thread CPU will be better than that i7 for streaming/recording, but he can get an R7 1700 + motherboard for the same price as a used i7 6700/K.

 

He also probably doesn't have a Z chipset board for the K chip anyways.

As well getting a decent AM4 motherboard means the option of 12 or 16 core Ryzen 3000 CPUs later this year/early next year