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Ram Sweet spot

Hey guys/girls,

 

I recently got a little bit of dosh, I've picked out an i9 9900k (why not lol), bought the z390 MSI gaming plus this board supports up to 4400mhz, been looking around seeing what peoples verdicts on what ram speeds would be good some people say its pointless to go that high  but no one has added if dual kits or quad kits benefits or where the sweet spot speeds are for the CPU are at,  Linus mentions on an older video when 4266 ( i7 7700k model) was out but don't know if that still applies two generations later, just looking for best performance for my rig so later down the track I won't be wondering did I get the best speed and then have that ich everyday lol

 

any help would be extremely appreciated also note not interested in amd  ?

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Highly depends on specific tasks. But general rule is that going higher than 3000 is not that useful.

Main system: Ryzen 7 7800X3D / Asus ROG Strix B650E / G.Skill Trident Z5 NEO 32GB 6000Mhz / Powercolor RX 7900 XTX Red Devil/ EVGA 750W GQ / NZXT H5 Flow

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Do you manually adjust frequency and timings?

 

and if anything, hitting higher CPU core clock with a better motherboard is better for your performance.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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2 minutes ago, PopsicleHustler said:

Highly depends on specific tasks. But general rule is that going higher than 3000 is not that useful.

 I just game but looking towards doing some youtube videos etc

2 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

Do you manually adjust frequency and timings?

 

and if anything, hitting higher CPU core clock with a better motherboard is better for your performance.

No, I don't that's kinda out of my knowledge base, so you're saying ram isn't really a big thing to consider towards overall performance? (i should have added more detail to my question sorry)

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DDR4 3000 should be good enough for video editing.

Above that is some diminishing returns

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5 minutes ago, MadmanRB said:

DDR4 3000 should be good enough for video editing.

Above that is some diminishing returns

Awesome,

 

Thank you, everyone, for your help

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23 minutes ago, xikerm61 said:

No, I don't that's kinda out of my knowledge base, so you're saying ram isn't really a big thing to consider towards overall performance? (i should have added more detail to my question sorry)

no I didn't say that, memory is important especially when some cheap 3000MHz CL15/16 kits are approaching 2400MHz and 2666MHz ones in pricing, I wont say no to extra speed for 10-20% higher price on memory alone (which gets diluted by the overall price of the machine anyway). It's just that memory are getting so cheap that 3600MHz CL19 kits can sometimes be had for lower budget as well. Now, these kits have bad XMP profile performance, even 3000MHz CL16 are faster. However their tuning potentials are greater than 3000MHz or even 3200MHz CL16 ones, capable of reaching their timings at a higher frequency (if not both higher frequency and lower timings). That's why I asked if you will be tuning them yourself.

 

If you won't then answer is simple. Get a 2933-3200 CL15 or 16 memory kit.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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5 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

no I didn't say that, memory is important especially when some cheap 3000MHz CL15/16 kits are approaching 2400MHz and 2666MHz ones in pricing, I wont say no to extra speed for 10-20% higher price on memory alone (which gets diluted by the overall price of the machine anyway). It's just that memory are getting so cheap that 3600MHz CL19 kits can sometimes be had for lower budget as well. Now, these kits have bad XMP profile performance, even 3000MHz CL16 are faster. However their tuning potentials are greater than 3000MHz or even 3200MHz CL16 ones, capable of reaching their timings at a higher frequency (if not both higher frequency and lower timings). That's why I asked if you will be tuning them yourself.

 

If you won't then answer is simple. Get a 2933-3200 CL15 or 16 memory kit.

ah that makes sense why you asked, yeah sadly tuning is not my strong point, thank you for your help Jurrunio

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