4K Gaming Build

[JB780]

Hi All,

 

I'm at a point where I can (somewhat) justify spending a good amount of money on a PC build and have been seriously considering building one that is capable of 4k at 60+FPS. 

 

This is very preliminary, I really just wanted to understand what the costs are going to be, but here is where I am at so far:

Part	Description	Reg Price
CPU	Intel Core i7-9700K	529.99
Case	Corsair 500D	199.99
GPU	ASUS RTX 2080 Strix OC	1149.99
Motherboard	????????
Monitor	ASUS ROG Swift PG279Q	949.99
Power Supply	Seasonic Power Supply SSR-750PX	179.98
Memory	GSkill Trident Z 3200 (2x8)	160.99
Storage	Samsung 970 Evo PCI 1TB	439.99

 

 

I'm thinking of pulling out my Corsair H110 from my current system for cooling. All these prices are in Canadian. 

As you can see I'm not sure which motherboard to go with, I'm leaning towards ASUS Z7370F at the moment, what are your suggestions? I'm obviously prepared to spend quite a bit but I want to get the best bang for my buck from all components and I think I can get a motherboard for sub $250? I don't need wi-fi.

How does the rest of it look?

 

[LukeSavenije]

Just now, JB780 said:

Power Supply Seasonic Power Supply SSR-750PX 179.98

don't do, especially at that price

 

what would be your final budget?

[Princess Luna]

4k is not really all that worth it, I would rather focus on 1440p, ultrawide or not... the graphical quality is much on pair but it's severely easier to run.

 

What's the point of having such a high resolution if your image becomes worse in quality to keep playable performance, you can search on YouTube, 2560x1440p or 3440x1440p does makes better sense in value proposition.

 

But if you're set you want 4k and nothing more, things you Should do is shift money from everything to the GPU, you will need that RTX 2080 Ti to get the most out of 4k60fps experience, at this screen setting CPU matters almost nothing.

 

That said a locked i7 8700 on a b360 cheap board and a cheap cooler like a Hyper212X, Gammax400 or freezer 34 and 2666mhz memory (2x8gb) would already give you EVERYTHING you need to achieve the 60fps margin with butter-smooth frametime.

 

The GPU will be what will be punished the most at 4k in every way and will always be your limiting factor (GPU will always be the bottleneck), so don't obsess about overclocking an i7 9700K with fancy AiO as that will not make your gaming experience any better.

[Findiculous]

Well for one thing, if you want 4k at 60FPS, be prepared to pay more on the GPU because the 2080 isnt going to cut it in some games unless you downgrade settings. 

 

If you want a more consistent performance at 4K at least at the moment you will want to go with the 2080Ti. 

 

In any case though, 4K gaming really isnt worth it for the price. And by price I dont just mean monetary value. 4K monitors come at a cost of higher response times and lower refresh rates. 1440p is the sweet spot for gaming.

 

[LukeSavenije]

6 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

Hyper212X, Gammax400 or freezer 34

how do you dare to disrespect the 34 by mention it in the same list?

[Princess Luna]

6 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

how do you dare to disrespect the 34 by mention it in the same list?

Fanboy FanPony detected [:

 

I'm listing great value orientated coolers for an i7 8700 to keep it's full boost always, you should see it as recognition of it's capacity~

[LukeSavenije]

4 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

Fanboy FanPony detected [:

 

I'm listing great value orientated coolers for an i7 8700 to keep it's full boost always, you should see it as recognition of it's capacity~

ah, good girl pony

 

btw, not even a fanboy, just like the 34 duo itself

[JB780]

1 hour ago, LukeSavenije said:

don't do, especially at that price

 

what would be your final budget?

What do you recommend? 

 

My budget would ideally be less than $200 for the power supply, ~$4k total.

[JB780]

1 hour ago, Princess Cadence said:

4k is not really all that worth it, I would rather focus on 1440p, ultrawide or not... the graphical quality is much on pair but it's severely easier to run.

 

What's the point of having such a high resolution if your image becomes worse in quality to keep playable performance, you can search on YouTube, 2560x1440p or 3440x1440p does makes better sense in value proposition.

 

But if you're set you want 4k and nothing more, things you Should do is shift money from everything to the GPU, you will need that RTX 2080 Ti to get the most out of 4k60fps experience, at this screen setting CPU matters almost nothing.

 

That said a locked i7 8700 on a b360 cheap board and a cheap cooler like a Hyper212X, Gammax400 or freezer 34 and 2666mhz memory (2x8gb) would already give you EVERYTHING you need to achieve the 60fps margin with butter-smooth frametime.

 

The GPU will be what will be punished the most at 4k in every way and will always be your limiting factor (GPU will always be the bottleneck), so don't obsess about overclocking an i7 9700K with fancy AiO as that will not make your gaming experience any better.

The point is to have the MOST RESOLUTIONS of course.

 

To be honest I have not been following hardware too closely the last couple of years, a combination of being happy with my current build and avoiding the temptation to upgrade components every other month.

 

Maybe 1440p with an ultra wide is the way to go? This is something I had considered a year ago but like I mentioned in my original post, I am willing to spend some money this time around so thought throwing it at 4k was a good idea, but if I need to spend another $700 on a Ti maybe not. I could sleep at night spending $4k, maybe not so well at $5k.

 

Thanks for the feedback, very helpful and greatly appreciated. 

[LukeSavenije]

9 minutes ago, JB780 said:

What do you recommend? 

 

My budget would ideally be less than $200 for the power supply, ~$4k total.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type	Item	Price
CPU	Intel - Core i5-9600K 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor	$329.00 @ Powertop
CPU Cooler	ARCTIC - Freezer 34 eSports DUO CPU Cooler	$45.00
Motherboard	Gigabyte - Z390 UD ATX LGA1151 Motherboard	$169.50 @ Vuugo
Memory	G.Skill - Aegis 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory	$109.99 @ Newegg Canada
Storage	Intel - 660p Series 512 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive	$85.07 @ Amazon Canada
Video Card	EVGA - GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11 GB Black Video Card	$1419.99 @ Memory Express
Case	Cooler Master - MasterCase H500 ATX Mid Tower Case	$118.96 @ Vuugo
Power Supply	Corsair - RMx (2018) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply	$109.99 @ Canada Computers
Monitor	Samsung - U28E590D 28.0" 3840x2160 60 Hz Monitor	$369.00 @ Amazon Canada
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total (before mail-in rebates)	$2776.50
	Mail-in rebates	-$20.00
	Total	$2756.50
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-03-18 17:48 EDT-0400

 

[JB780]

1 hour ago, Findiculous said:

Well for one thing, if you want 4k at 60FPS, be prepared to pay more on the GPU because the 2080 isnt going to cut it in some games unless you downgrade settings. 

 

If you want a more consistent performance at 4K at least at the moment you will want to go with the 2080Ti. 

 

In any case though, 4K gaming really isnt worth it for the price. And by price I dont just mean monetary value. 4K monitors come at a cost of higher response times and lower refresh rates. 1440p is the sweet spot for gaming.

 

Initially I thought a 2080 would be good enough, but it sounds like I'll need to jump up to a Ti? 

 

Maybe I'm better off to go with 1440 even if it doesn't sound as sexy as 4k.

[JB780]

3 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type	Item	Price
CPU	Intel - Core i5-9600K 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor	$329.00 @ Powertop
CPU Cooler	ARCTIC - Freezer 34 eSports DUO CPU Cooler	$45.00
Motherboard	Gigabyte - Z390 UD ATX LGA1151 Motherboard	$169.50 @ Vuugo
Memory	G.Skill - Aegis 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory	$109.99 @ Newegg Canada
Storage	Intel - 660p Series 512 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive	$85.07 @ Amazon Canada
Video Card	EVGA - GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11 GB Black Video Card	$1419.99 @ Memory Express
Case	Cooler Master - MasterCase H500 ATX Mid Tower Case	$118.96 @ Vuugo
Power Supply	Corsair - RMx (2018) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply	$109.99 @ Canada Computers
Monitor	Samsung - U28E590D 28.0" 3840x2160 60 Hz Monitor	$369.00 @ Amazon Canada
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total (before mail-in rebates)	$2776.50
	Mail-in rebates	-$20.00
	Total	$2756.50
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-03-18 17:48 EDT-0400

 

Thanks!

 

I've always been a big Corsair fan, for their quality & subtle design but i've seen rumblings their quality has gone downhill in the last year or so? Any truth to that in your opinion?

[Findiculous]

3 minutes ago, JB780 said:

Thanks!

 

I've always been a big Corsair fan, for their quality & subtle design but i've seen rumblings their quality has gone downhill in the last year or so? Any truth to that in your opinion?

I have had corsair components for years. Their warranties are great, customer service is really good. My current system uses a lot of their fans (12 to be exact), their H150i Pro cooler, a PSU and DDR4 RAM. All lighting and fan curves controlled through icue without issue.

[Findiculous]

24 minutes ago, JB780 said:

Initially I thought a 2080 would be good enough, but it sounds like I'll need to jump up to a Ti? 

 

Maybe I'm better off to go with 1440 even if it doesn't sound as sexy as 4k.

If you are desperate for 4K, you want a 2080Ti. And you will want to research monitors very carefully to find the right one.

 

A high quality 1440p monitor will run circles around a poor quality 4K monitor regardless of what components you have.

[JB780]

15 minutes ago, Findiculous said:

If you are desperate for 4K, you want a 2080Ti. And you will want to research monitors very carefully to find the right one.

 

A high quality 1440p monitor will run circles around a poor quality 4K monitor regardless of what components you have.

Which 1440p monitor do you recommend? Is spending the extra on the 32" curved worth it over a standard 27"?

[Findiculous]

16 minutes ago, JB780 said:

Which 1440p monitor do you recommend? Is spending the extra on the 32" curved worth it over a standard 27"?

If you decide on 1440p, grab yourself a VA or IPS panel with a high refresh rate and low response time. 

If you stick to wanting 4K then grab the 2080Ti and then the same as above with VA or IPS monitors. 

 

The size of the screen is up to you on both how much you want to spend and how close you usually sit to your monitor.