Which 2070?

[Sigi]

Hi,

I am building my first rig very soon aand have settled on a 2070 as the graphics card (1080 and not very available and the same price in my country). I wondered what model I should get. I have been looking at the gigabyte gaming oc and evga xc ultra gaming as I want to overclock. I would definitively pay extra for a quiter, lower temps and better quality card. I also wondered if I should go with the i7 8700k or the i7 9700k for overclocking using AIO water cooling.

 

Any answers would be appreciated.

[Firewrath9]

cheapest, gigabyte makes a good cheap one. for cpu, get a 2700 non-x then overclock to ~4.2ghz, and its a 2700X

[r2724r16]

12 minutes ago, Sigi said:

I have been looking at the gigabyte gaming oc and evga xc ultra gaming as I want to overclock. I would definitively pay extra for a quiter, lower temps and better quality card.

I'd personally go for the EVGA card if I was given these options.

13 minutes ago, Sigi said:

I also wondered if I should go with the i7 8700k or the i7 9700k for overclocking using AIO water cooling.

If they're the same price (or very close to each other), then go for the i7 9700K. Otherwise, go with the older (but still powerful) i7 8700K.

 

Also, don't do with AIO liquid cooling, get an air cooler instead (such as a Dark Rock Pro 4). Air coolers are more reliable, quieter, and cheaper than most AIO liquid coolers while performing better or similar to AIOs.

[tarfeef101]

1 minute ago, Geography said:

I'd personally go for the EVGA card if I was given these options.

If they're the same price (or very close to each other), then go for the i7 9700K. Otherwise, go with the older (but still powerful) i7 8700K.

 

Also, don't do with AIO liquid cooling, get an air cooler instead (such as a Dark Rock Pro 4). Air coolers are more reliable, quieter, and cheaper than most AIO liquid coolers while performing better or similar to AIOs.

Agree on the CPU, they perform almost identically, so cheaper = better, basically. 

I disagree with you forcing your own preferences and opinions on OP about cooling. There are many reasons to use an AIO. Form factor, primarily, is a huge difference. They are much easier to fit into smaller cases and tight spaces. They are also often easy to mount for a beginner (people with older bequiet coolers should understand the pain some air coolers can induce). They also ship much better since they're much less likely to have issues moving around in shipping. They're generally just more "efficient', space-wise. An air cooler as good as a 280mm AIO is going to be much heavier and take up a lot more space. So don't just write AIOs off as "bad"

Yes, some air coolers are very good and excellent value. I don't deny that. I use some myself. But I also have used AIOs (although now all my watercooling is custom cause I find it fun), and there are reasons for doing so. Hell you might even just like how they look. 

[Sigi]

In my country the 9700k is about 25 dollars more. Is that worth it or should I go with the 8700k?

 

[r2724r16]

6 minutes ago, tarfeef101 said:

There are many reasons to use an AIO. Form factor, primarily, is a huge difference. They are much easier to fit into smaller cases and tight spaces

Depends on the size of the AIO. A 360mm AIO takes up a lot more space than even big air coolers (depending on which axis you look at).

6 minutes ago, tarfeef101 said:

They are also often easy to mount for a beginner (people with older bequiet coolers should understand the pain some air coolers can induce).

Not really, I found it very easy to mount my Dark Rock Pro 3. 

7 minutes ago, tarfeef101 said:

An air cooler as good as a 280mm AIO is going to be much heavier and take up a lot more space. So don't just write AIOs off as "bad"

Weight doesn't really matter. As for space, it depends on the specific coolers being compared.

8 minutes ago, tarfeef101 said:

Hell you might even just like how they look. 

This is true. AIOs do generally look better than air coolers.

3 minutes ago, Sigi said:

In my country the 9700k is about 25 dollars more. Is that worth it or should I go with the 8700k?

It's up to you honestly. $25 for ~5% more performance may or may not be worth it.

[tarfeef101]

1 minute ago, Geography said:

Depends on the size of the AIO. A 360mm AIO takes up a lot more space than even big air coolers (depending on which axis you look at).

Volume is a well-defined metric for space. A big-a** tower cooler takes up a lot of volume. More importantly, it takes up volume in the area right on top of your board where you might value that space for other components (ie RAM, PCIe devices, etc)

[BlockedTheShot]

i'd go gigabyte. I don't know about current evga cards but i remember my EVGA gtx 970 acx 2.0 was loud as crap when gaming. Now i have a gigabyte windforce rtx 2070 and it's much quieter