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I was playing ASC Origins and had some lag so I opened HWM and noticed my GPU sitting at 95% most of the time, never reaching higher than 96/97%

I have a i7 4790k and GTX 1070 which should be working fine. Can this also be caused by slow RAM?

 

I kinda wonder how I can get my GPU to 99% usage

 

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I don't think a 4790k should be bottlenecking a 1070 and the last time I checked, Assassin's Creed Origins or Odyssey for that matter weren't very well optimised. What resolution are you playing at and how much ram are you using?

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7 minutes ago, DotoreN said:

Can this also be caused by slow RAM?

Possible, but not going past 95% can just be caused by inaccurate measurements and the round ups and downs. Just like memory bandwidth, what it says on websites and even the official spec sheet is never the actual bandwidth.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

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SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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3 minutes ago, Acolyte said:

I don't think a 4790k should be bottlenecking a 1070 and the last time I checked, Assassin's Creed Origins or Odyssey for that matter weren't very well optimised. What resolution are you playing at and how much ram are you using?

 

1 minute ago, Jurrunio said:

Possible, but not going past 95% can just be caused by inaccurate measurements and the round ups and downs. Just like memory bandwidth, what it says on websites and even the official spec sheet is never the actual bandwidth.

1080p and in primary dimm 2x2gb 1333hz secondary 2x8gb 1600hz. I'm probably going to remove the slow 1333hz sticks tomorrow and see if it changes anything, as they're always used first, so i wanna get rid of them. I just can't do it right now as my cooler blocks the the slots. I was just wondering if this might also be the cause of this gpu 95% usage thingy

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1080p and in primary dimm 2x2gb 1333hz secondary 2x8gb 1600hz. I'm probably going to remove the slow 1333hz sticks tomorrow and see if it changes anything.

I just can't do it right now as my cooler blocks the the slots.

you can't even click on the memory slot release thingy? That will disconnect the sticks from the memory slot and they won't be running, You can keep them there tbh

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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9 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

you can't even click on the memory slot release thingy? That will disconnect the sticks from the memory slot and they won't be running, You can keep them there tbh

my 2x2gb sticks are in A1/B1 (dual), if i disconnect them by clicking on the memory slot release (not sure if my mobo has this option?), my pc will run fine having the only 2x8 in A2/B2? I don't need to put them in A1/B1?

Edit: and where should the memory slot release be on this MB?

 

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4 minutes ago, DotoreN said:

 

1080p and in primary dimm 2x2gb 1333hz secondary 2x8gb 1600hz. I'm probably going to remove the slow 1333hz sticks tomorrow and see if it changes anything, as they're always used first, so i wanna get rid of them. I just can't do it right now as my cooler blocks the the slots. I was just wondering if this might also be the cause of this gpu 95% usage thingy

What's your GPU usage like in other games? You may be getting a slight bottleneck which is specific to ACO because as previously mentioned, the game is terribly optimised. I would recommend turning down some CPU intensive in-game settings such as environmental detail.

CPU : Intel Core i7 7700K w/ Noctua NH-D15. Motherboard : MSI Z270 Gaming Pro Carbon.
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7 minutes ago, DotoreN said:

my 2x2gb sticks are in A1/B1 (dual), if i disconnect them by clicking on the memory slot release (not sure if my mobo has this option?), my pc will run fine having the only 2x8 in A2/B2? I don't need to put them in A1/B1?

Edit: and where should the memory slot release be on this MB?

 

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CPU : Intel Core i7 7700K w/ Noctua NH-D15. Motherboard : MSI Z270 Gaming Pro Carbon.
RAM : Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB DDR4 3200MHz. GPU : PALIT NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080Ti 11GB GamingPro OC.

Case : Corsair 600c Inverse ATX Full Tower. Storage : Samsung SSD 840 120GB EVO / Samsung 1TB HD103SJ / WD Blue 2TB WD20EZRZ.

PSU : Corsair RM850i 850w. Monitor 1 : Alienware AW3418DW 3440x1440 120hz Ultrawide. Monitor 2 : Asus VG248QE 1920x1080 144hz.
Audio : Sennheiser HD650 w/ JDS Labs 'The Element' USB DAC/AMP. Microphone : Satin Red Blue Yeti w/ Blue Compass boom arm and Blue Radius III shock mount.
Keyboard : Ducky One 2 RGB Cherry MX black custom w/ Red Diamond 550 Paracord coil sleeved USB type C. Mouse : Logitech G PRO Wireless.

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7 minutes ago, DotoreN said:

my 2x2gb sticks are in A1/B1 (dual), if i disconnect them by clicking on the memory slot release (not sure if my mobo has this option?), my pc will run fine having the only 2x8 in A2/B2? I don't need to put them in A1/B1?

you dont have to follow the recommended placements if you dont encounter problems. Usually it's fine.

 

8 minutes ago, DotoreN said:

Edit: and where should the memory slot release be on this MB?

On the two ends of the slot, there are two things I dont know what they're called as.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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2 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

you dont have to follow the recommended placements if you dont encounter problems. Usually it's fine.

 

On the two ends of the slot, there are two things I dont know what they're called as.

Alright i'll do this, thanks. If it works it saves me from having to dissemble my cooler and reapply thermal paste. My bios will just not recognize/see the RAM sticks after i do this? that's basically all this does?

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3 minutes ago, DotoreN said:

Alright i'll do this, thanks. If it works it saves me from having to dissemble my cooler and reapply thermal paste. My bios will just not recognize/see the RAM sticks after i do this? that's basically all this does?

yes, basically unplugging the sticks but leaving them in close proximity

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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I would not leave RAM partially inside, there might still be some contact and that could cause random issues.

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