Ryzen 5 1600 & Corsair RGB PRO 2x8 3200mhz UEFI BIOS Utility Settings Help

[Blinci]

Just purchased a Corsair RGB PRO 2x8 3200mhz kit into my r5 1600, strix b350-f build that I’m consistently upgrading, however I’m not too fimiluar with messing with the UEFI BIOS. I don’t mind not overclocking the CPU much as I don’t think I need it much yet (idk something like 3.4ghz?) but I’m a bit afraid of just setting the new ram to 3200mhz as don’t you have to do a bunch of other setting changes like change voltage to 1.35 or something? A.I overclock tuner only gives options for Auto & D.O.C.P. I’m just scared that like my last ram if I don’t do other changes it will crash when I use games..

 

I’m not sure if this is the right place to put this since I haven’t been here long, please correct me if I should relocate this post.

[191x7]

You should flash your BIOS (UEFI) to the latest available version first. Then load the XMP settings for the memory and that's it. Asus uses D.O.C.P. as a name for XMP on AMD parts.

[Derrk]

Just set it to XMP settings & see if it boots. I believe it increases voltage on it's own, but 1.35 isn't a problem. Concerns start to arise as you get closer to 1.5

[Blinci]

1 hour ago, 191x7 said:

You should flash your BIOS (UEFI) to the latest available version first. Then load the XMP settings for the memory and that's it. Asus uses D.O.C.P. as a name for XMP on AMD parts.

Tried to do that but it kept giving the "Check your network connection" error. What does this mean? I’m connected to wifi and everything should I choose one of the other two options?

Edit: see comment below

Edited February 24, 2019 by Blinci
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[Blinci]

1 hour ago, Derrk said:

Just set it to XMP settings & see if it boots. I believe it increases voltage on it's own, but 1.35 isn't a problem. Concerns start to arise as you get closer to 1.5

XMP isn’t a given option. Only D.O.C.P & Auto. I’m trying to update BIOS to hopefully fix it but it gives an Error “check network connection”. What does this mean?

edit: not internet connection my bad, NETWORK connection... what does this mean should I use one of the other two options? 

Edited February 24, 2019 by Blinci
Update on info

[Derrk]

4 hours ago, Blinci said:

XMP isn’t a given option. Only D.O.C.P & Auto. I’m trying to update BIOS to hopefully fix it but it gives an Error “check network connection”. What does this mean?

edit: not internet connection my bad, NETWORK connection... what does this mean should I use one of the other two options? 

 

 

Sorry, DOCP is basically the same as XMP. Rather than doing it over internet, you should try installing it onto a flash drive with nothing else on it & then flashing the bios from the drive.

 

Thats at least how I've always done it

 

Edit: i may be wrong, but i feel like b350 capped ram speed to 2933 without bios updates, which might be why docp has been giving you issues

[Blinci]

23 minutes ago, Derrk said:

 

 

Sorry, DOCP is basically the same as XMP. Rather than doing it over internet, you should try installing it onto a flash drive with nothing else on it & then flashing the bios from the drive.

 

Thats at least how I've always done it

 

Edit: i may be wrong, but i feel like b350 capped ram speed to 2933 without bios updates, which might be why docp has been giving you issues

I updated the BIOS via USB and tried the D.O.C.P standard which surprisingly despite what people say has given me solid 3200mhz 1.35v with no crashing for at least a few hours of all sorts of things. Not sure if it’s resolved for good but things are looking a bit up. I’ll look a bit more into it tommorow just in case

[191x7]

10 hours ago, Blinci said:

I updated the BIOS via USB and tried the D.O.C.P standard which surprisingly despite what people say has given me solid 3200mhz 1.35v with no crashing for at least a few hours of all sorts of things. Not sure if it’s resolved for good but things are looking a bit up. I’ll look a bit more into it tommorow just in case

I believe I did write that Asus calls XMP DOCP on AMD systems.

And the bios/UEFI update steps are always mentioned in the motherboard manual.

Basically, what I recommended fixed the problem.

[Blinci]

1 hour ago, 191x7 said:

I believe I did write that Asus calls XMP DOCP on AMD systems.

And the bios/UEFI update steps are always mentioned in the motherboard manual.

Basically, what I recommended fixed the problem.

Sadly it crashed with d.o.c.p standard 3200mhz at 1.35v. I’m not sure if I should maybe try tweaking manually, or worse case return it for a different pair. Not sure if it’s because of my Asus b350-f gaming mobo.

[Derrk]

37 minutes ago, Blinci said:

Sadly it crashed with d.o.c.p standard 3200mhz at 1.35v. I’m not sure if I should maybe try tweaking manually, or worse case return it for a different pair. Not sure if it’s because of my Asus b350-f gaming mobo.

DOCP/XMP often need a little bit of tweaking before running perfectly stable. Things you could try are slowly increasing voltage, dropping speed slightly, or loosening the timings.

 

I'd first try increasing voltage, probably to around 1.375 and if that isn't stable, then bumping it to 1.4. 

[191x7]

Or simply try the next XMP profile, should be 2933. It might be the B350 limiting your speeds.

[Blinci]

On 2/24/2019 at 11:40 AM, Derrk said:

DOCP/XMP often need a little bit of tweaking before running perfectly stable. Things you could try are slowly increasing voltage, dropping speed slightly, or loosening the timings.

 

I'd first try increasing voltage, probably to around 1.375 and if that isn't stable, then bumping it to 1.4. 

It's now become stable after being slightly overvolted at 1.36 at DOCP standard 3200mhz. I'll likely bump it up to at least 1.38 or 1.4 like what other people also recommended for it to make sure it's stable. Not what it was advertised as but I guess it's understandable as it's a budget mobo. Thank's for your help. This isn't really related but now that's done any info on how to overclock Ryzen 5 1600 to 3.6 stable? Will either of these videos work? I'll move it do a different forum if appropriate/requested. 

 

 

[Derrk]

2 hours ago, Blinci said:

It's now become stable after being slightly overvolted at 1.36 at DOCP standard 3200mhz. I'll likely bump it up to at least 1.38 or 1.4 like what other people also recommended for it to make sure it's stable. Not what it was advertised as but I guess it's understandable as it's a budget mobo. Thank's for your help. This isn't really related but now that's done any info on how to overclock Ryzen 5 1600 to 3.6 stable? Will either of these videos work? I'll move it do a different forum if appropriate/requested. 

 

 

I'll say that the 2nd video is a better source. I wouldn't recommend overclocking with ryzen master. It's a good place to get info and tweak certain things, but it's better to do your overclocking in bios. Like the ram, you'll have to do some tweaking to find the best performance/stability. The silicon in every cpu is different so you may be able to run higher speeds at lower voltages or require more voltage to reach those speeds.

 

It may be a good idea to start another thread on this issue. Someone with a ryzen 1600 may be able to give you a good place to start before tweaking

[Blinci]

4 hours ago, Derrk said:

I'll say that the 2nd video is a better source. I wouldn't recommend overclocking with ryzen master. It's a good place to get info and tweak certain things, but it's better to do your overclocking in bios. Like the ram, you'll have to do some tweaking to find the best performance/stability. The silicon in every cpu is different so you may be able to run higher speeds at lower voltages or require more voltage to reach those speeds.

 

It may be a good idea to start another thread on this issue. Someone with a ryzen 1600 may be able to give you a good place to start before tweaking

Yeah got ahold of the 2nd videos creator for insight and I’ll likely post a forum tommorow reguarding 3.6 settings as his video was for 3.8 which I won’t need until later.

[Blinci]

On 2/25/2019 at 6:43 PM, Derrk said:

I'll say that the 2nd video is a better source. I wouldn't recommend overclocking with ryzen master. It's a good place to get info and tweak certain things, but it's better to do your overclocking in bios. Like the ram, you'll have to do some tweaking to find the best performance/stability. The silicon in every cpu is different so you may be able to run higher speeds at lower voltages or require more voltage to reach those speeds.

 

It may be a good idea to start another thread on this issue. Someone with a ryzen 1600 may be able to give you a good place to start before tweaking

I think I also found something else that possibly was a major contributing factor: I had my slots in a1 & b1 instead of recommended a2 & b2 I’m trying it now to see the difference 

[Bearded_Ed]

Just popping in here to say that the slots probably didn't make much difference I don't think..

 

Also, I have OC'd my Ryzen 1600 to 3.9GHz at 1.36v  Was very very easy.

 

That said... any major video encoding occasionally crashes it! This is super super rare that it happens though. At 3.8GHz mine didn't crash tho.

 

 

[Derrk]

22 hours ago, Blinci said:

I think I also found something else that possibly was a major contributing factor: I had my slots in a1 & b1 instead of recommended a2 & b2 I’m trying it now to see the difference 

 

They will work better in A2 B2, because of optimizations and less interference, but it won't be a huge difference. If you were able to get your memory stable at 3200 before switching slots, you may be able to overclock it a bit faster now too

[Blinci]

On 2/27/2019 at 5:44 PM, Derrk said:

 

They will work better in A2 B2, because of optimizations and less interference, but it won't be a huge difference. If you were able to get your memory stable at 3200 before switching slots, you may be able to overclock it a bit faster now too

Yeah I had lots of ussies with a1 & b1 but I've had no trouble with advertised speeds 3200mhz and could possibly stable overclock even.