Upgrade from GTX970

[Strangloss]

Hi Guys,

 

I am planning on changing my old GTX 970 but I don't know if I need a 2080 or a 2080 ti. I would like to play the latest AAA games and for the years to come at 1440p @120-144Hz.

 

Thanks for your help.

[LukeSavenije]

i would do a 2080, because the 2080 ti is kinda overpriced rn. the evga black is a good example of a 2080

[Praesi]

Im no Fan of the current RTX Series. 2080ti is way too expensive for my taste. You pay for Features that dont realy exist yet. Since AMD pricing is bad as well, i would go for 2060 or 2080.

[TH3R34P3R]

19 minutes ago, Strangloss said:

1440p @120-144Hz.

just not maxed graphics (like AA) - 2080

 

for balls to the wall (with a super good cpu like at least an i7 or an i9) - 2080ti. no contest here. 

[Princess Luna]

What's your CPU?

[Strangloss]

54 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

What's your CPU?

Currently, I have a i5 7600K but I am planning on building a new PC. It is just that I can use the GPU now while putting more money on the side for the rest.

[Princess Luna]

2 minutes ago, Strangloss said:

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Yeah the i5 7600K will bottleneck hard either the RTX 2080 or RTX 2080 Ti, it's just a 4c/4t.

[Jon Jon]

Here's a decent video review of the i5 7600K paired with a 1080ti (RTX 2080 performance range)

 

This will give you an idea of what to expect IMO.

 

[Princess Luna]

1 hour ago, Jon Jon said:

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I don't find this video much useful because it's 4k gaming and only thing running on system is the game, OP wants 1440p high refresh rate which is more CPU demanding and nowadays it's hard finding people who won't multi-task even if having browser and instant message serves running alongside the game.

 

It makes the i5 7600K look like it can get away with, when in reality it can't.

[Zeitec]

I mean for that, neither. Neither of those cards will comfortably do that for "years to come" unless you really start to turn the settings down by 2021. That said the 2080ti is the closest. Also 7600k isn't good enough for 144fps in modern games. You're really gonna want an 8700k, 9700k, or 9900k. You could also look towards Zen 2 in the summer, but we know nothing other than a multicore score for one 8 core SKU at an unknown frequency.

[Strangloss]

3 hours ago, vinyldash303 said:

Why not a used 1080 Ti?

With a 1080ti, do you think I will be able to run AAA games at max settings 3 years from now on at 1440p and 120-144Hz?

[JoostinOnline]

3 minutes ago, Strangloss said:

With a 1080ti, do you think I will be able to run AAA games at max settings 3 years from now on at 1440p and 120-144Hz?

No, and probably not with an RTX 2080 Ti either. Keep in mind that max settings have become something developers no longer focus on. Often the lower settings look the same or slightly different, but with an enormous performance boost.

[Strangloss]

7 minutes ago, JoostinOnline said:

No, and probably not with an RTX 2080 Ti either. Keep in mind that max settings have become something developers no longer focus on. Often the lower settings look the same or slightly different, but with an enormous performance boost.

Okay, good to know. Is the performance gain important between 1080ti and 2080?

[JoostinOnline]

34 minutes ago, Strangloss said:

Okay, good to know. Is the performance gain important between 1080ti and 2080?

Not really. AMD has been lagging behind lately on their GPU side, and without any meaningful competition Nvidia has been able to jack up the prices without needing to give any real incentive to buy from them.

 

The RTX series has ray tracing and DLSS, but there has been almost zero adoption of it. Developers (understandably) don't want to code in features that only a small portion of gamers are able to utilize. It's not very profitable. DLSS has been pretty disappointing where it's integrated, and ray tracing really sinks your performance.

[Strangloss]

6 minutes ago, JoostinOnline said:

Not really. AMD has been lagging behind lately on their GPU side, and without any meaningful competition Nvidia has been able to jack up the prices without needing to give any real incentive to buy from them.

 

The RTX series has ray tracing and DLSS, but there has been almost zero adoption of it. Developers (understandably) don't want to code in features that only a small portion of gamers are able to utilize. It's not very profitable. DLSS has been pretty disappointing where it's integrated, and ray tracing really sinks your performance.

Do you have specific a model/brand of 1080ti and 2080 to recommend?

[JoostinOnline]

4 minutes ago, Strangloss said:

Do you have specific a model/brand of 1080ti and 2080 to recommend?

Not particularly, as they all tend to offer about the same performance. Just make sure you don't get a blower style cooler. Those are the ones with a single fan on them and a vent by the ports. You want an open air model.

 

The bottom is a blower style for reference.

[BlockedTheShot]

9 hours ago, Strangloss said:

Hi Guys,

 

I am planning on changing my old GTX 970 but I don't know if I need a 2080 or a 2080 ti. I would like to play the latest AAA games and for the years to come at 1440p @120-144Hz. 

 

Thanks for your help.

I did a similar upgrade and I chose the rtx 2070 as it was the pricest gpu i could resonably go for. rtx 2070 will probably do 1440p 144hz on esports and some somewhat older titles, but i would go for a rtx 2080 for 144hz on all titles, (or a used 2080)

[Strangloss]

Thanks for your help, I will go with the MSI - GeForce RTX 2080 GAMING X TRIO as I don't find a 1080ti at a reasonnable price.

[Zeitec]

2 hours ago, Strangloss said:

With a 1080ti, do you think I will be able to run AAA games at max settings 3 years from now on at 1440p and 120-144Hz?

No, but literally no card on the market can do that even right now, let alone 3 years from now. Look at Metro Exodus. 2080ti at 1440p even on ultra (Which keep in mind, isn't even max settings) gets ~100fps. So even on not max settings, the best card on the market can't get 1440p 120fps in the latest AAA games. BTW that's an in game benchmark of a demanding section, not the stupid built in benchmark that cripples performance. 

 

Moral of the story is just get the best card you can afford because no matter how much money you have, you're not gonna be able to meet your wants.