Games Stuttering

[renchy_is_sketchy]

So just today my games started stuttering all of a sudden. At first i thought it was just apex legends but i tried r6s and the same problem persisted...

I recently updated my AMD RX 580 drivers to the optional 19.2.1 as a fix to the apex legends crashes but that didnt fix anything it just made every game worse by making every game stutter...

I guess an option is to downdate my amd drivers ?

[TH3R34P3R]

uninstall them all using DDU, then reinstall them all again. see if a fresh download fixes it. 

[Spotty]

Just now, renchy_is_sketchy said:

I recently updated my AMD RX 580 drivers to the optional 19.2.1 as a fix to the apex legends crashes but that didnt fix anything it just made every game worse by making every game stutter...

I guess an option is to downdate my amd drivers ?

Yep, that would be the first step. Use DDU to fully uninstall the current drivers and install an older version and see if that solves your performance issue. Could just be a bad driver update.

[renchy_is_sketchy]

3 minutes ago, TH3R34P3R said:

uninstall them all using DDU, then reinstall them all again. see if a fresh download fixes it. 

 

2 minutes ago, Spotty said:

Yep, that would be the first step. Use DDU to fully uninstall the current drivers and install an older version and see if that solves your performance issue. Could just be a bad driver update.

I just rolled back my drivers with device manager but i guess i need to do as you both think , thats probably the better idea anyways.

And cant i just use amd cleanup utility?

[Skiiwee29]

DDU is the best way to go to completely remove any old conflicting drivers and files and install fresh and new. This has been confirmed to fix peoples issues with the new drivers 19.2 from what ive seen and had people test with. 

[renchy_is_sketchy]

Just now, Skiiwee29 said:

DDU is the best way to go to completely remove any old conflicting drivers and files and install fresh and new. This has been confirmed to fix peoples issues with the new drivers 19.2 from what ive seen and had people test with. 

Gotchu , ill do it right now and reply with the news flash

[Spotty]

6 minutes ago, renchy_is_sketchy said:

And cant i just use amd cleanup utility?

Err, I don't know. I've never used it before so I'm not sure how thorough it is. I'd recommend using DDU just got the sake of thoroughness and knowing that it's pretty reliable at cleaning up everything.

 

I'd probably do what @TH3R34P3R said and after running DDU install the same driver version that you're currently running (the latest, downloaded from AMD website), and seeing if just reinstalling it fresh fixes it. If you're still having performance issues after that, DDU again and try with an older version.

[Peskanova]

its an issue of wattman , had the same with a rx480 (stock) , I've noticed not steady frequency (like jumping , if I remember correcly, from 1400mhz to 1350 etc , every bump a stutter) Searching for clues on wattman settings just allowing to draw up to 50% more power fixed that (its at 0% you can change up to -50% or +50%) those makes steady frequency with variable power , 0 stutters since then, that rx 480 was 1 year on my setup, almost 1 year mining and now with a 4790k on a friend's rig , now rocking better than on my setup.

Monitor your frequency while gaming

[renchy_is_sketchy]

News Flash

 

removed my drivers with amd clean up utility , downloaded 19.1.1 ... problem persists in video games. I didnt check with the other drivers but with these even CSGO the game you would most expect to lag is stuttering on unplayable levels. 

Just had an idea to remove drivers again , and use the auto detect and install drivers on the amd driver website so maybe that could find the correct drivers , but i think thats a waste of time. Just going to build a new pc (with same gpu (it was used(by a miner)) at the end of exams and have a ''fresh'' ? start.

 

Any last ideas? Im almost certain that its got something to do with faulty drivers

 

I mean i can try removing the drivers again and doing what i planned?

22 hours ago, Spotty said:

Err, I don't know. I've never used it before so I'm not sure how thorough it is. I'd recommend using DDU just got the sake of thoroughness and knowing that it's pretty reliable at cleaning up everything.

 

I'd probably do what @TH3R34P3R said and after running DDU install the same driver version that you're currently running (the latest, downloaded from AMD website), and seeing if just reinstalling it fresh fixes it. If you're still having performance issues after that, DDU again and try with an older version.

 

22 hours ago, Skiiwee29 said:

DDU is the best way to go to completely remove any old conflicting drivers and files and install fresh and new. This has been confirmed to fix peoples issues with the new drivers 19.2 from what ive seen and had people test with. 

 

22 hours ago, TH3R34P3R said:

uninstall them all using DDU, then reinstall them all again. see if a fresh download fixes it. 

 

[Skiiwee29]

Just now, renchy_is_sketchy said:

News Flash

 

removed my drivers with amd clean up utility , downloaded 19.1.1 ... problem persists in video games. I didnt check with the other drivers but with these even CSGO the game you would most expect to lag is stuttering on unplayable levels. 

Just had an idea to remove drivers again , and use the auto detect and install drivers on the amd driver website so maybe that could find the correct drivers , but i think thats a waste of time. Just going to build a new pc (with same gpu (it was used(by a miner)) at the end of exams and have a ''fresh'' ? start.

 

Any last ideas? Im almost certain that its got something to do with faulty drivers

 

 

 

News Flash,

 

You still havent done DDU like we have been telling you... 

[TH3R34P3R]

1 minute ago, renchy_is_sketchy said:

News Flash

 

removed my drivers with amd clean up utility , downloaded 19.1.1 ... problem persists in video games. I didnt check with the other drivers but with these even CSGO the game you would most expect to lag is stuttering on unplayable levels. 

Just had an idea to remove drivers again , and use the auto detect and install drivers on the amd driver website so maybe that could find the correct drivers , but i think thats a waste of time. Just going to build a new pc (with same gpu (it was used(by a miner)) at the end of exams and have a ''fresh'' ? start.

 

Any last ideas? Im almost certain that its got something to do with faulty drivers

 

 

 

did you use DDU or just amd cleanup? if not... DDU. use it. 

[renchy_is_sketchy]

Just now, Skiiwee29 said:

News Flash,

 

You still havent done DDU like we have been telling you... 

 

Just now, TH3R34P3R said:

did you use DDU or just amd cleanup? if not... DDU. use it. 

How is DDU diffrent from clean up utility though? They both remove drivers...

[TH3R34P3R]

4 minutes ago, renchy_is_sketchy said:

 

How is DDU diffrent from clean up utility though? They both remove drivers...

DDU removes everything. in safe mode, you can get rid of even the base drivers and start fresh. 

[renchy_is_sketchy]

Just now, TH3R34P3R said:

DDU removes everything. in safe mode, you can get rid of even the base drivers and start fresh. 

Is safe mode necessary ? And is secure mode the same as safe mode because thats the only setting i could find on my BIOS?

[Skiiwee29]

7 minutes ago, renchy_is_sketchy said:

Is safe mode necessary ? And is secure mode the same as safe mode because thats the only setting i could find on my BIOS?

Yes.. Follow the instructions with DDU for the best results. 

[renchy_is_sketchy]

On 2/14/2019 at 9:54 AM, Skiiwee29 said:

Yes.. Follow the instructions with DDU for the best results. 

Ok Did not work.

 

I dont know how to fix this , i went back to the same drivers that had no issues after: 1. Using AMDs clean up utility , reinstalling drivers , failed (still stutters) , 2.After using DDU , reinstalling drivers , failed (still stutters) , but the driver version that was working fine now is also malfunctioning ( if this is indeed driver related) 

Ive given up and this is pretty much my last attempt of making it somehow work out again.

 

RX580   19.1.2 ---> 19.2.1 (stutters) ----> 19.2.2 (stutters) ----> 19.1.1 (stutters) ----> 19.1.2 (stutters but im tired of doing this so im sitting on this for the moment)

[Iskor12]

Is this happening with all games or certain ones?  Also, what is your cpu and how much ram do you have?

[renchy_is_sketchy]

18 minutes ago, Iskor12 said:

Is this happening with all games or certain ones?  Also, what is your cpu and how much ram do you have?

Every game ive tested , (R6s , csgo , apex legends (+crashing in apex) , guild wars 2 in single player games its not that noticable but its still there)

Ive got an E5 1607 v2 and 16gb of DDR2 ram (i think)

[Iskor12]

54 minutes ago, renchy_is_sketchy said:

Every game ive tested , (R6s , csgo , apex legends (+crashing in apex) , guild wars 2 in single player games its not that noticable but its still there)

Ive got an E5 1607 v2 and 16gb of DDR2 ram (i think)

I was not expecting ddr 2 or a cpu from q3 of 2013.  Honestly, everything in my head is pointing to this being the issue, but i'm not able to test that for myself to confirm.

[renchy_is_sketchy]

Those are not the problem , was running perfectly fine over 150frames in all the games i pointed out before i updated drivers.

[Iskor12]

5 minutes ago, renchy_is_sketchy said:

Doubt that those are the problem , was running perfectly fine over 150frames in all the games i pointed out before i updated drivers.

Honestly I'm at a loss.  I too am running a RX 580 4GB model, but have a ryzen 2600 with 16gb ddr4.  Last driver update went ok for me.

[renchy_is_sketchy]

13 hours ago, Iskor12 said:

Honestly I'm at a loss.  I too am running a RX 580 4GB model, but have a ryzen 2600 with 16gb ddr4.  Last driver update went ok for me.

Well there are many RX 580 4gb models... 

[Iskor12]

7 hours ago, renchy_is_sketchy said:

Well there are many RX 580 4gb models... 

This is the card that I have.  MSI RX 580 Armor 4GB OC

 

The only thing that I noticed with the most recent driver is that my OC that I previously had stopped running stable.

[renchy_is_sketchy]

On 2/15/2019 at 11:26 AM, Iskor12 said:

This is the card that I have.  MSI RX 580 Armor 4GB OC

 

The only thing that I noticed with the most recent driver is that my OC that I previously had stopped running stable.

It was a virus , that windows couldnt detect. Unhackme did the job. Dont talk bad about my old cpu lol

 

News Flash

 

It had nothing to do with drivers. There was a virus/viruses on my computer. Unhackme did the job.