CPU Bottleneck in 1050 ti Ryzen 3 1200 build

[kojiben10]

So I originally posted this on the GPU forum but people over there said that this is a CPU bottleneck

I played CS GO on Mirage No Bots No players

Settings Max Res 1080p

FPS About 20-77

It only goes above 60 fps when I am facing a wall

GPU Usage 7%-35

CPU Usage 100%

I will provide all the information you ask 

Thanks!

(Also Fortnite won't run.It crashes before I can pick BR or STW)

[NunoLava1998]

Pretty sure that isn't a bottleneck lol

 

edit: It is, get a Ryzen 5 2600 or 1400

[LaptopNerdi7U]

11 minutes ago, kojiben10 said:

So I originally posted this on the GPU forum but people over there said that this is a CPU bottleneck

I played CS GO on Mirage No Bots No players

Settings Max Res 1080p

FPS About 20-77

It only goes above 60 fps when I am facing a wall

GPU Usage 7%-35

CPU Usage 100%

I will provide all the information you ask 

Thanks!

(Also Fortnite won't run.It crashes before I can pick BR or STW)

So for starters AMD have cheap multi core CPU's but their IPC (Instructions per clock) is slower than Intel's, thats why you can see a 4 core 8 thread Intel CPU beat a 8 core 16 thread AMD CPU. 

CS:GO wants cores, but it likes to sap the juice from one of the cores the most. for example you can have 3 cores at 50% but one core at 100% which is a bottleneck. 

Use MSI Afterburner, make all the cores visible in the On Screen Display and maybe post a pic. 

But its probably just a slow core. 

And again Im not an Intel fanboy I would love AMD to make better CPU's. 

Games like faster cores, not more of them (most of the time) CS:GO wants both if you want 128+FPS

Also I suggest locking the game at 64FPS via RivaTuner because most of the servers are 64hz.

[NunoLava1998]

Just now, LaptopNerdi7U said:

So for starters AMD have cheap multi core CPU's but their IPC (Instructions per clock) is slower than Intel's, thats why you can see a 4 core 8 thread Intel CPU beat a 8 core 16 thread AMD CPU. 

CS:GO wants cores, but it likes to sap the juice from one of the cores the most. for example you can have 3 cores at 50% but one core at 100% which is a bottleneck. 

Use MSI Afterburner, make all the cores visible in the On Screen Display and maybe post a pic. 

But its probably just a slow core. 

And again Im not an Intel fanboy I would love AMD to make better CPU's. 

Games like faster cores, not more of them (most of the time) CS:GO wants both if you want 128+FPS

Also I suggest locking the game at 64FPS via RivaTuner because most of the servers are 64hz.

'So for starters AMD have cheap multi core CPU's but their IPC (Instructions per clock) is slower than Intel's, thats why you can see a 4 core 8 thread Intel CPU beat a 8 core 16 thread AMD CPU.' Lmao what? i3 and i5 do not beat the Ryzen 7 2700(X) at all

MSI Afterburner is for GPUs.

[kojiben10]

1 minute ago, LaptopNerdi7U said:

So for starters AMD have cheap multi core CPU's but their IPC (Instructions per clock) is slower than Intel's, thats why you can see a 4 core 8 thread Intel CPU beat a 8 core 16 thread AMD CPU. 

CS:GO wants cores, but it likes to sap the juice from one of the cores the most. for example you can have 3 cores at 50% but one core at 100% which is a bottleneck. 

Use MSI Afterburner, make all the cores visible in the On Screen Display and maybe post a pic. 

But its probably just a slow core. 

And again Im not an Intel fanboy I would love AMD to make better CPU's. 

Games like faster cores, not more of them (most of the time) CS:GO wants both if you want 128+FPS

Also I suggest locking the game at 64FPS via RivaTuner because most of the servers are 64hz.

Yes, thank you but It doesn"t meanthat I have to switch processors rught?

[kojiben10]

1 minute ago, NunoLava1998 said:

'So for starters AMD have cheap multi core CPU's but their IPC (Instructions per clock) is slower than Intel's, thats why you can see a 4 core 8 thread Intel CPU beat a 8 core 16 thread AMD CPU.' Lmao what? i3 and i5 do not beat the Ryzen 7 2700(X) at all

MSI Afterburner is for GPUs.

The guys over the GPU forum said that this is a CPU bottleneck

[LaptopNerdi7U]

Sorry for the bad grammar Im writing in a hurry

Just now, kojiben10 said:

Yes, thank you but It doesn"t meanthat I have to switch processors rught?

How much watts is your PSU what is your build? 

[NunoLava1998]

Just now, kojiben10 said:

The guys over the GPU forum said that this is a CPU bottleneck

And it is.

I'd recommend upgrading to a Ryzen 5 2600 or 1400.

What's your total specs? If submitting specs from some app like Speccy, please specify the PSU

[LaptopNerdi7U]

3 minutes ago, NunoLava1998 said:

'So for starters AMD have cheap multi core CPU's but their IPC (Instructions per clock) is slower than Intel's, thats why you can see a 4 core 8 thread Intel CPU beat a 8 core 16 thread AMD CPU.' Lmao what? i3 and i5 do not beat the Ryzen 7 2700(X) at all

MSI Afterburner is for GPUs.

What? You can see core usage and you are comparing non-hyper threaded CPUS with hyper threaded? MSI Afterburner has an OSD that shows info for anything that you could need

[kojiben10]

1 minute ago, LaptopNerdi7U said:

Sorry for the bad grammar Im writing in a hurry

How much watts is your PSU what is your build? 

CPU: Ryzen 3 1200 Stock Cooler 300mhz oc

GPU: Palit Dual OC 1050ti

HDD: WD Blue 1TB 7200RPM

RAM: Generic Kingston RAM 8 gigs single channel(I know ryzen likes a lot of RAM but I really can't afford it rn)

PSU: Corsair VS550 80+ rated (Not bronze just 80 plus and 550 watts

[LaptopNerdi7U]

1 minute ago, NunoLava1998 said:

And it is.

I'd recommend upgrading to a Ryzen 5 2600 or 1400.

What's your total specs? If submitting specs from some app like Speccy, please specify the PSU

i7 is the way to go if you have the money. 

[NunoLava1998]

Just now, LaptopNerdi7U said:

What? You can see core usage and you are comparing non-hyper threaded CPUS with hyper threaded? MSI Afterburner has an OSD that shows info for anything that you could need

Ah, okay. Thought you meant OCing the CPU with Afterburner.

Still, Intel's 4c8t offerings don't beat the 8c16t offerings by AMD at all in gaming lol

[LaptopNerdi7U]

Just now, NunoLava1998 said:

Ah, okay. Thought you meant OCing the CPU with Afterburner.

Still, Intel's 4c8t offerings don't beat the 8c16t offerings by AMD at all in gaming lol

Not on paper but in games. 

[kojiben10]

Just now, LaptopNerdi7U said:

i7 is the way to go if you have the money. 

I really can't

[NunoLava1998]

2 minutes ago, kojiben10 said:

CPU: Ryzen 3 1200 Stock Cooler 300mhz oc

GPU: Palit Dual OC 1050ti

HDD: WD Blue 1TB 7200RPM

RAM: Generic Kingston RAM 8 gigs single channel(I know ryzen likes a lot of RAM but I really can't afford it rn)

PSU: Corsair VS550 80+ rated (Not bronze just 80 plus and 550 watts

Go for the 2600.

Ryzen likes RAM with high frequency and low CL and it being more than one stick, but if you can't afford it it's perfectly fine.

I would recommend upgrading your PSU too, a TX650M Gold will do well, but it's not urgent at all (VS is a pretty low tier of PSU but it's not like it's going to explode the moment you turn it on lol)

[NunoLava1998]

Just now, LaptopNerdi7U said:

Not on paper but in games. 

In games they don't, though

Plus AMD is releasing Zen 2 in about 6 months which will pretty much obliterate i7s and i9s right out the door, and a i7/i9/r7 will bottleneck with a 1050 TI

[Triventular]

even if that was the case, having maxed out all cores on csgo and having low framerates on it is weird. Despite the r3 1200 being a budget offering it should offer better framerates for this game and he also mentioned fortnite doesn't run on this setup despite there being tons of videos showing the r3 1200 paired with 1050ti running it. I dont want him to upgrade cuz, i think, he went with the r3 1200 with budget in mind.

[kojiben10]

2 minutes ago, LaptopNerdi7U said:

Not on paper but in games. 

Should I just limit CS GO to 64 fps?

[LaptopNerdi7U]

1 minute ago, kojiben10 said:

Should I just limit CS GO to 64 fps?

If you can get 64fps

[kojiben10]

1 minute ago, Triventular said:

even if that was the case, having maxed out all cores on csgo and having low framerates on it is weird. Despite the r3 1200 being a budget offering it should offer better framerates for this game and he also mentioned fortnite doesn't run on this setup despite there being tons of videos showing the r3 1200 paired with 1050ti running it. I dont want him to upgrade cuz, i think, he went with the r3 1200 with budget in mind.

It was running fine before 2 days ago I have been very frustrated with my PC as I cannot find anything online

[LaptopNerdi7U]

1 minute ago, LaptopNerdi7U said:

If you can get 64fps

I really think that this CPU SHOULD get atleast 64fps 

[Triventular]

Reading this, someone had a somewhat similar problem and it was solved with a bios update.. maybe try this

his problem was his cpu clock never went above 1.5ghz giving him bad framerates. install afterburner and see if your cpu clocks are going the way they should

[Ememegod]

Are you sure your monitor is connected to your graphics card and not your motherboard? I see this issue a lot.

[Triventular]

12 minutes ago, Ememegod said:

Are you sure your monitor is connected to your graphics card and not your motherboard? I see this issue a lot.

the r3 1200 doesnt have an igpu.. correct me if im wrong

[LaptopNerdi7U]

31 minutes ago, kojiben10 said:

So I originally posted this on the GPU forum but people over there said that this is a CPU bottleneck

I played CS GO on Mirage No Bots No players

Settings Max Res 1080p

FPS About 20-77

It only goes above 60 fps when I am facing a wall

GPU Usage 7%-35

CPU Usage 100%

I will provide all the information you ask 

Thanks!

(Also Fortnite won't run.It crashes before I can pick BR or STW)

Graphics settings do NOT impact the CPU only the GPU, it may be driver releated or you need a BIOS update, I have a friend that has an 1700X and RTX2070 with the same problem. 

Update BIOS re-install 1050ti drivers