MY FIRST EVER BUILD NEED HELP

[I need buget gaming Pc]

So,i'm Planning to do a Pc build of a budget of a 400 EURO,what i want from u guys is to make me list of a Pc Parts or a youtube video  to build a Gaming Pc for 400 EUR

 

I dont care about the looks of the case etc,just want the best Price and making it sure it does what it does .

 

Like i already hawe thought about hawing a 

 

8GB DDR4 Ram 200gb SDD ,i dont know a good knowledge about  graPhics cards Processors motherboards Power suPPlies cases  which hawe come out lately which are good for gaming ang hawing a good Price 

[MrMcMuffinJr]

1 minute ago, I need buget gaming Pc said:

So,i'm Planning to do a Pc build of a budget of a 400 EURO,what i want from u guys is to make me list of a Pc Parts or a youtube video  to build a Gaming Pc for 400 EUR

 

I dont care about the looks of the case etc,just want the best Price and making it sure it does what it does .

 

Like i already hawe thought about hawing a 

 

8GB DDR4 Ram 200gb SDD ,i dont know a good knowledge about  graPhics cards Processors motherboards Power suPPlies cases  which hawe come out lately which are good for gaming ang hawing a good Price 

not a very big budget

 

[I need buget gaming Pc]

1 minute ago, MrMcMuffinJr said:

not a very big budget

 

Yeah i know,but i'm looking for a uPgrade oPtions i dont need it to run the OverPovered games like far crys rdr etc,just some CS GO GTA,MC,not too crazy games

[boey]

6 minutes ago, I need buget gaming Pc said:

So,i'm Planning to do a Pc build of a budget of a 400 EURO,what i want from u guys is to make me list of a Pc Parts or a youtube video  to build a Gaming Pc for 400 EUR

  

I dont care about the looks of the case etc,just want the best Price and making it sure it does what it does .

 

Like i already hawe thought about hawing a 

 

8GB DDR4 Ram 200gb SDD ,i dont know a good knowledge about  graPhics cards Processors motherboards Power suPPlies cases  which hawe come out lately which are good for gaming ang hawing a good Price 

at that price it's better to go for used parts. what country are you from?

 

[Fasauceome]

Best performance now:

Cheap system with a 4th gen CPU already and a graphics card, both from eBay

 

Best upgradability:

Cheap Ryzen APU system with modern parts

 

which would you prefer

 

[I need buget gaming Pc]

3 minutes ago, fasauceome said:

Best performance now:

Cheap system with a 4th gen CPU already and a graphics card, both from eBay

 

Best upgradability:

Cheap Ryzen APU system with modern parts

 

which would you prefer

 

Id Like to choose UPgradability 

[I need buget gaming Pc]

4 minutes ago, _d0nut said:

at that price it's better to go for used parts. what country are you from?

 

I'm fully ok with used Parts just need some guidelines of what Parts for what Prices etc,

[Fasauceome]

5 minutes ago, I need buget gaming Pc said:

Id Like to choose UPgradability 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD - Ryzen 3 2200G 3.5 GHz Quad-Core Processor	€97.80 @ Amazon Deutschland
Motherboard	ASRock - AB350M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard	€72.84 @ Amazon Deutschland
Memory	Crucial - Ballistix Sport LT 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR4-2666 Memory	€48.35 @ Amazon Deutschland
Storage	Western Digital - Green 240 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive	€36.99 @ Amazon Deutschland
Case	Cooler Master - MasterBox E500L ATX Mid Tower Case	€36.99 @ Amazon Deutschland
Power Supply	Corsair - CXM 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply	€67.07 @ Amazon Deutschland
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	€360.04
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-02-04 18:23 CET+0100

I believe this would do, budget oriented but you can put a 6 core Ryzen CPU in there eventually and there's of course room for a decent graphics card as well as more storage.

 

There's also room for a better SSD in your budget if you'd like

https://de.pcpartpicker.com/product/sDqhP6/intel-545s-256gb-m2-2280-solid-state-drive-ssdsckkw256g8x1

[maartendc]

3 minutes ago, I need buget gaming Pc said:

Id Like to choose UPgradability 

$400 is not much, but perfect budget for an APU build:

 

Something like this would fit your needs:

 

- The AMD CPU has a pretty decent Vega GPU build right into it. This would be enough to play games like CS:GO

- You can always easily add a dedicated GPU later on, just plugs right in. This is great for upgradeability.

- All the other components are from decent brands, but their cheaper lines: EVGA PSU, Fractal Design Case, Patriot Memory, Asrock motherboard, Adata SSD. These are all quality components that won't fail you.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2400G 3.6 GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($149.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350M-HDV Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($58.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Patriot - Viper 4 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($55.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: ADATA - Ultimate SU650 240 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($32.89 @ OutletPC)
Case: Fractal Design - Core 1000 USB 3.0 MicroATX Mid Tower Case  ($45.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA - BT 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($37.99 @ Monoprice)
Total: $381.71
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-02-04 12:22 EST-0500

 

Good luck!

[maartendc]

1 minute ago, fasauceome said:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD - Ryzen 3 2200G 3.5 GHz Quad-Core Processor	€97.80 @ Amazon Deutschland
Motherboard	ASRock - AB350M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard	€72.84 @ Amazon Deutschland
Memory	Crucial - Ballistix Sport LT 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR4-2666 Memory	€48.35 @ Amazon Deutschland
Storage	Western Digital - Green 240 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive	€36.99 @ Amazon Deutschland
Case	Cooler Master - MasterBox E500L ATX Mid Tower Case	€36.99 @ Amazon Deutschland
Power Supply	Corsair - CXM 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply	€67.07 @ Amazon Deutschland
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	€360.04
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-02-04 18:23 CET+0100

I believe this would do, budget oriented but you can put a 6 core Ryzen CPU in there eventually and there's of course room for a decent graphics card as well as more storage.

Also good suggestion for components! Can't go wrong with Cooler Master, Corsair, Western Digital, Crucial, etc.

 

I would prefer to get the 2400G CPU versus the 2200G, because it has multithreading and better GPU.

RAM I would go with something a bit faster, like 3000Mhz, since the RAM will also be used as video RAM for the integrated CPU. Faster RAM is definitely a big deal for APU's.

[I need buget gaming Pc]

4 minutes ago, maartendc said:

$400 is not much, but perfect budget for an APU build:

 

Something like this would fit your needs:

 

- The AMD CPU has a pretty decent Vega GPU build right into it. This would be enough to play games like CS:GO

- You can always easily add a dedicated GPU later on, just plugs right in. This is great for upgradeability.

- All the other components are from decent brands, but their cheaper lines: EVGA PSU, Fractal Design Case, Patriot Memory, Asrock motherboard, Adata SSD. These are all quality components that won't fail you.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2400G 3.6 GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($149.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350M-HDV Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($58.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Patriot - Viper 4 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($55.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: ADATA - Ultimate SU650 240 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($32.89 @ OutletPC)
Case: Fractal Design - Core 1000 USB 3.0 MicroATX Mid Tower Case  ($45.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA - BT 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($37.99 @ Monoprice)
Total: $381.71
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-02-04 12:22 EST-0500

 

Good luck!

It seems odd that u can even turn on Pc without graPhic card,but it will run like a natural,normal Pc  Am I right

[maartendc]

1 minute ago, I need buget gaming Pc said:

It seems odd that u can even turn on Pc without graPhic card,but it will run like a natural,normal Pc  Am I right

The motherboard has video outputs, and the CPU has a "video card" built in. So no, it is not odd at all

 

Intel CPU's have had built in graphics cards for years. You don't need a dedicated GPU unless you are gaming.

[Fasauceome]

2 minutes ago, maartendc said:

I would prefer to get the 2400G CPU versus the 2200G, because it has multithreading and better GPU.

I considered it, but the extra price puts it right at the budget, and that doesn't account for shipping. I figured if it's getting upgraded eventually anyway then it would be fine.

 

3 minutes ago, maartendc said:

RAM I would go with something a bit faster, like 3000Mhz, since the RAM will also be used as video RAM for the integrated CPU. Faster RAM is definitely a big deal for APU's.

yeah faster ram actually isn't much more expensive, I just chose to add some breathing room but it would certainly do well.

1 minute ago, I need buget gaming Pc said:

It seems odd that u can even turn on Pc without graPhic card,but it will run like a natural,normal Pc  Am I right

yes, most Ryzen CPUs don't have integrated graphics, unless there's a G at the end (the ones we picked). The motherboard will have video ports.

[I need buget gaming Pc]

2 minutes ago, maartendc said:

The motherboard has video outputs, and the CPU has a "video card" built in. So no, it is not odd at all

 

Intel CPU's have had built in graphics cards for years. You don't need a dedicated GPU unless you are gaming.

Ohh,okay,but it will run some games at lower settings while i get a gPu,for instance what gPu you would suggest with this system,so the Psu can suPPort it.

[Fasauceome]

Just now, I need buget gaming Pc said:

Ohh,okay,but it will run some games at lower settings while i get a gPu,for instance what gPu you would suggest with this system,so the Psu can suPPort it.

You'll have enough power for the GPU of your choice, I recommend a GPU and CPU upgrade at the same time so you can take advantage of all the horsepower available to you.

[I need buget gaming Pc]

1 minute ago, fasauceome said:

You'll have enough power for the GPU of your choice, I recommend a GPU and CPU upgrade at the same time so you can take advantage of all the horsepower available to you.

Idk,if the CPU   alone costs 100 and a GPU  like 1050ti would be around 150 so i hawe to sPend around 250,or i understood something wrong

[Fasauceome]

5 minutes ago, I need buget gaming Pc said:

Idk,if the CPU   alone costs 100 and a GPU  like 1050ti would be around 150 so i hawe to sPend around 250,or i understood something wrong

Yes, when the new Ryzen 3000 series comes out then the cheapest one would be a good upgrade for you, around 100, and then a good graphics card from eBay for like $100 would be nice, perhaps something like a GTX 970 or 980. If you want a new graphics card and are looking for cheap, an RX 570 has excellent value over the 1050 ti.

[I need buget gaming Pc]

1 minute ago, fasauceome said:

Yes, when the new Ryzen 3000 series comes out then the cheapest one would be a good upgrade for you, around 100, and then a good graphics card from eBay for like $100 would be nice, perhaps something like a GTX 970 or 980. If you want a new graphics card and are looking for cheap, an RX 570 has excellent value over the 1050 ti.

Okay,so make everything clear, i should get system 

 

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2400G 3.6 GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($149.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350M-HDV Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($58.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Patriot - Viper 4 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($55.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: ADATA - Ultimate SU650 240 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($32.89 @ OutletPC)
Case: Fractal Design - Core 1000 USB 3.0 MicroATX Mid Tower Case  ($45.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA - BT 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($37.99 @ Monoprice)
Total: $381.71

 

 

And for the GPu uPgrade i should get a better cPu ,but thats not a strict must hawe,i could run some time with this Ryzen 5 2400g CPU ,with some 570rx right,

 

 

I Kinda hawe a question what monitor should i get in order of something....what monitor would be best with this system

[Fasauceome]

5 minutes ago, I need buget gaming Pc said:

And for the GPu uPgrade i should get a better cPu ,but thats not a strict must hawe,i could run some time with this Ryzen 5 2400g CPU ,with some 570rx right,

 

 

I Kinda hawe a question what monitor should i get in order of something....what monitor would be best with this system

Well if you get the 2400G, it's actually a lot better than the 2200G so maybe an upgrade wouldn't be as necessary. RX 570 is a strong recommend.

 

As for monitor, 1080p 60Hz, bog standard.

[I need buget gaming Pc]

Just now, fasauceome said:

Well if you get the 2400G, it's actually a lot better than the 2200G so maybe an upgrade wouldn't be as necessary.

 

As for monitor, 1080p 60Hz, bog standard.

 So if i get the 2400G i can go with GPU ,without worrying about losing much of Performance a gPu like RX 560

[maartendc]

2 minutes ago, fasauceome said:

Well if you get the 2400G, it's actually a lot better than the 2200G so maybe an upgrade wouldn't be as necessary. RX 570 is a strong recommend.

 

As for monitor, 1080p 60Hz, bog standard. 

Yes, I agree. The 2400G should be good enough for future upgrades.

 

I would not advise to buy a CPU now and upgrade it later, that would be a waste of money. You just should get the system as described above now, and just by an ADDITIONAL GPU in the future. It just plugs right into the system.

 

Which GPU you should buy for the upgrade depends on your budget, but yes the RX570 is one of the best value for money GPU's right now. If you have a bit more to spend, the RX 580 or GTX 1060 6GB are good too.

[Fasauceome]

1 minute ago, I need buget gaming Pc said:

 So if i get the 2400G i can go with GPU ,without worrying about losing much of Performance a gPu like RX 560

The 560 isn't very good so I'd just take the money you would have spent on one and save for something like a 580

[I need buget gaming Pc]

4 minutes ago, fasauceome said:

The 560 isn't very good so I'd just take the money you would have spent on one and save for something like a 580

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2400G 3.6 GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($149.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350M-HDV Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($58.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Patriot - Viper 4 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($55.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: ADATA - Ultimate SU650 240 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($32.89 @ OutletPC)
Case: Fractal Design - Core 1000 USB 3.0 MicroATX Mid Tower Case  ($45.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA - BT 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($37.99 @ Monoprice)
Total: $381.71

 

And for gPu i should get GTX 1060 or so....

 

With some 1080P 60hz monitor

[I need buget gaming Pc]

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[I need buget gaming Pc]

So guys i hawe gathered myself a Parts list 

 

AMD Ryzen 2400G 3.5 GHZ Quad Core cPu 148 Eur

 

ASRock AB350M HDV MOBO 60 EUR 

 

Patriot ViPer 2x4GB DDR4 3000MHZ RAM 64 EUR

 

ADATA SSD Ultimate SU650 240GB Currently ot of stock,but i think 40 EUR

 

Corsair VS450 450W PSU 39 EUR

 

Fractal Designt Core 1000 FD Case 35 EUR

 

So for Montor i chose Asus VP228HE which ir 1080P 75HZ i guess  Size 21.5"  and it says it has integrated sPeakers,all that for 102 EUR Idk if i can get better monitor for this Price.

 

Which in total is 486 W monitor