Power Saving

[Islam Ghunym]

I want a GPU that combines power saving and high performance so my first thought will be my current GTX 1060, it has a good performance and a good power saving, but I am searching for more saving so my question is:  if I bought the RTX 2080 TI and used it on power saving settings, tried to lower games' settings and put some frame rates cap, will I get lower power demading  than using my GTX 1060?

 

well, the first question will you ask before answering me is: why do you want to buy the RTX 2080 TI to use frame rates caps and power saving settings???? why don't you buy something like the upcoming GTX 1150 or 1150 TI????

 

my answer will be: I surely won't be using the RTX 2080 TI at power saving settings always, it depends on the state whether the power matters or not so by buying such a high end GPU I can controll my power consumption, but this won't work if it won't save power so I am asking if it will save more than the GTX 1060 while outpoting the same caped frame rates in the same games.

[Maticks]

RTX2060 is probably going to be better for you power savings wise.

I guess when we look at power savings we look for Watts to FPS.

a 2060 is going to give you about 20-30% more FPS for around the same amount of power as a 1060.

 

But Nvidia cards will throttle down to like 800Mhz when they aren't in games so you get power savings while not gaming.

You can also find the sweet spot with MSI Afterburner instead of overclocking the card you can unlock the voltage and try undervolting the card.

 

This will give you decent power savings if you can get a stable clock also the fans will spin less.

Undervolting is popular on Laptops for Power Savings and thermals.

 

buying an RTX 2080 Ti is in the 200Watt area and even if you clock it down you are pretty much going to get 2060 power usage at a lower clock there is no point buying the hardware.

Remember power savings is based on Architecture usually, hence the 10XX series of Pascal was a lot better than the 9XX series power savings wise.

 

The GTX 1070 is a nice boost of performance and isnt that power hungry for 1080p gaming it would be fine. obviously the RTX series will be better but it will be priced more.

 

Just stay away from AMD if Power Savings are your key area, AMD are known to draw the most power to keep up with Nvidia.

 

[Islam Ghunym]

8 hours ago, Maticks said:

RTX2060 is probably going to be better for you power savings wise.

I guess when we look at power savings we look for Watts to FPS.

a 2060 is going to give you about 20-30% more FPS for around the same amount of power as a 1060.

 

But Nvidia cards will throttle down to like 800Mhz when they aren't in games so you get power savings while not gaming.

You can also find the sweet spot with MSI Afterburner instead of overclocking the card you can unlock the voltage and try undervolting the card.

 

This will give you decent power savings if you can get a stable clock also the fans will spin less.

Undervolting is popular on Laptops for Power Savings and thermals.

 

buying an RTX 2080 Ti is in the 200Watt area and even if you clock it down you are pretty much going to get 2060 power usage at a lower clock there is no point buying the hardware.

Remember power savings is based on Architecture usually, hence the 10XX series of Pascal was a lot better than the 9XX series power savings wise.

 

The GTX 1070 is a nice boost of performance and isnt that power hungry for 1080p gaming it would be fine. obviously the RTX series will be better but it will be priced more.

 

Just stay away from AMD if Power Savings are your key area, AMD are known to draw the most power to keep up with Nvidia.

 

thx, speaking on frames per watt ... what is the best ppwer saving GPU in the market currently?

as far as I know it is the 1050 TI and the 1150 TI will be more effiecient but what about the lower cards like Vega IGP in Ryzen 5 2400GE.

does it worth looking at the APUs or it is not far better than intel UHD?

 

intel UHD 630 is drawing about 20 watts while gaming on it but it is bad for performance so if I used for example the ryzen 5 2400GE Vega 11 IGP, will I get better frames per watts?

 

I don't know how much the ryzen 2400GE will draw power but I can say that my current core I3-8100 is drawing about 15-23 watts and my IGP is taking about additional 20 watts if I was gaming on it so will the ryzen 5 2400GE be better?

[Maticks]

1150 will be your best bet but you wont be turning game settings up to ultra. its finding the sweet spot between fps and power draw.

if power draw is ciritcal maybe you're on battery or solar, a gaming laptop might be another option.

power windows are strickly followed.

[Islam Ghunym]

On 2/3/2019 at 12:08 AM, Maticks said:

1150 will be your best bet but you wont be turning game settings up to ultra. its finding the sweet spot between fps and power draw.

if power draw is ciritcal maybe you're on battery or solar, a gaming laptop might be another option.

power windows are strickly followed.

both frames and watts are important to me and I really can't go higher than 120 W because I am using batteries and yes a solar system, I thought about laptops but I can't customise laptops and they are very expensive much more than what they deliver and they can't live long life.

 

I play competitive games at 144 Hz monitor with low input lag and respose time, this things will require more than 2000 bucks to get not ecen better laptop so I decided to make a power saving PC and as I measured it is drawing 12-15 amps per hour in some games and can go higher to about 25 maximum in GPU intensive games.

 

I have unstable power in the wall so I am using a UPS system with 300 amps deep cycle batteries and I'd like to keep my usage less than 30% from the batteries during power cut hours which can take up to 4 hours and I cam barely keep my usage bellow that percentage with my current GTX 1060 so I am searching for even more power saving.

[Froody129]

Just undervolt. My 1060 heavily undervolted was like 60-70w. My 1050ti also dramatically decreased power use. And my current 980ti I can decrease power use by about 30% at stock clocks.

 

Don't buy a high end card for power savings... It won't be efficient and you'll be spending waaaaaayyyyy more than the power you saved. If the 1060 can handle your games just undervolt and be happy 

[Islam Ghunym]

On 2/4/2019 at 6:58 AM, Froody129 said:

Just undervolt. My 1060 heavily undervolted was like 60-70w. My 1050ti also dramatically decreased power use. And my current 980ti I can decrease power use by about 30% at stock clocks.

 

Don't buy a high end card for power savings... It won't be efficient and you'll be spending waaaaaayyyyy more than the power you saved. If the 1060 can handle your games just undervolt and be happy 

can you pls give me some instruction about how can I undervolt my 1060 safely and how is the performance lose for some games like witcher 3 wild hunt and battlefield 1 on FHD or whatever you know and play, just an examples or descriptions, I am currently using MSI afterburner and I can only overvolt so you may help me with how to undervolt with it or using something else, thanks in advance.

[Froody129]

16 minutes ago, Islam Ghunym said:

can you pls give me some instruction about how can I undervolt my 1060 safely and how is the performance lose for some games like witcher 3 wild hunt and battlefield 1 on FHD or whatever you know and play, just an examples or descriptions, I am currently using MSI afterburner and I can only overvolt so you may help me with how to undervolt with it or using something else, thanks in advance.

Ctrl+F gives you the voltage curve. There's a great guide somewhere on the forum and other sites have good guides too. 

[Islam Ghunym]

26 minutes ago, Froody129 said:

Ctrl+F gives you the voltage curve. There's a great guide somewhere on the forum and other sites have good guides too. 

it gave me that voltage curve but I can't edit anything there, and as you have it undervolted can you pls describe to me the diffeence in performance, I searched for a working guides but I did not find anyone that works with me, I just can't undervolt it at all. 

[Froody129]

18 minutes ago, Islam Ghunym said:

it gave me that voltage curve but I can't edit anything there, and as you have it undervolted can you pls describe to me the diffeence in performance, I searched for a working guides but I did not find anyone that works with me, I just can't undervolt it at all. 

Go to settings. There'll be a setting about voltage control that you might have to turn on.

 

Performance is whatever clock you choose. Using the curve you can limit the card to a peak voltage. So I can undervolt to 800mv but then the clocks would have to be much lower to stabilise. But if I undervolt to 950mv then I can have higher clocks and thus less performance loss. 

 

You can use your default boost clock and just drop the voltage until it starts giving problems. There's no real risk to undervolting unless you're doing important work and the program crashes