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Recommendation for a friend.

Jose Marquez

EDIT: 2/6/2019: I have 3 builds and have let my friend know that we need to meet 1 on 1 and talk about which case, peripherals, and monitor he wants. Thanks to those 3 who compiled part lists!

 

My friend has asked me to basically build him a computer since according to him and my family I'm the computer god, anyways here is what he has given me in regards to the use case, etc.

 

 

1. Budget & Location

Budget: $500 - Can be increased if necessary

Location: USA

 

2. Aim

He mainly wants to use it to play games such as:

 

The Fallout Series

Indie games

(literally all he said) - he mentioned various "single/multiplayer" games but failed to mention specific ones (god forbid one of them is Fortnite)

It doesn't need to handle ULTRA 4K RAYTRACING

 

He said "I just want to do a little bit of everything" and again, failed to mention what exactly everything means. I know he doesn't video edit so maybe a quad core should be good (only because dual cores suck, at least mine does)

 

3. Monitors

We will start with 1 1080P monitor, and increase if he would like(not likely though). 

 

4. Peripherals

Even if he does need a keyboard/mouse, he will probably go to best buy and get the cheapest thing they have. He needs a monitor btw. Hopefully, he doesn't go to a garage sale and get a cheap ass monitor.

 

5. Why are you upgrading?

He has no computer and wants one. Simple. (although he as a PS4 ????)

 

I'll try to get him to clarify his use case as I don't think its very clear. Thanks.

 

If there's anything else required, feel free to ask. Also because my memory is ass I'll forget this post exists until my friend reminds me again.

Edited by Jose Marquez
Updated status on what is to be done from here. (aka i told my friend about the 3 builds)
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Can be increased to?

Ryzen 5 1600 @ 3.9 Ghz  | Gigabyte AB350M Gaming 3 |  PaliT GTX 1050Ti  |  8gb Kingston HyperX Fury @ 2933 Mhz  |  Corsair CX550m  |  1 TB WD Blue HDD


Inside some old case I found lying around.

 

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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 3 2200G 3.5 GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($94.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($73.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: GeIL - EVO POTENZA 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($59.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: MyDigitalSSD - BP5e Slim 7 240 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($39.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Seagate - BarraCuda 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($39.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: DIYPC - J180-BL ATX Mid Tower Case  ($36.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CX (2017) 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($24.99 @ Newegg) 
Monitor: Acer - SB220Q bi 21.5" 1920x1080 75 Hz Monitor  ($89.99 @ Amazon) 
Keyboard: Zalman - ZM-K380 Combo Wired Standard Keyboard w/Laser Mouse  ($13.39 @ Amazon) 
Total: $474.30
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-01-29 21:34 EST-0500

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X Heatsink: Gelid Phantom Black GPU: Palit RTX 3060 Ti Dual RAM: Corsair DDR4 2x8GB 3000Mhz mobo: Asus X570-P case: Fractal Design Define C PSU: Superflower Leadex Gold 650W

 

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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2400G 3.6 GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($149.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: Asus - PRIME B450M-A/CSM Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($77.85 @ Amazon) 
Memory: Patriot - Viper 4 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($59.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($45.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Cooler Master - MasterBox E300L MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($34.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CX (2017) 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($39.99 @ Amazon) 
Monitor: Acer - SB220Q bi 21.5" 1920x1080 75 Hz Monitor  ($89.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $498.79
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-01-29 21:24 EST-0500

 

I think the best approach at $500 with a monitor would be APU, but a 2400G should be good enough to play Fallout 4 on mid 1080p and max out the 75HZ monitor.

 

With an increased budget I would add a used 580 for around $100, and change to CPU to something else perhaps a 2600.

edit: probably shouldn't go with that case 

Current Desktop Build | 2200G | RX 580 4GB | 8GB RAM | CTRL | Logitech G Pro Wireless

Laptop | 2018 MBA 256/16GB | MX Master 

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Tbh the PS4 does better in gaming compared to a new PC for $500. Even if used parts are used it's hard to match the PS4

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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If you're willing to sacrifice on the motherboard, this is a viable option: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kpNzLJ
Alternately, you could ditch the RX 580, and purchase a used card locally. 
 

 

"Make sense? Oh, what fun is there in making sense?"
-Discord

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On 1/29/2019 at 6:20 PM, bleedblue said:

Can be increased to?

With the fact that he's working right now, it can be increased to any amount but personally, I don't think he would want to spend $1,000+. 

 

I messaged him asking what is the maximum he is willing to spend.

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On 1/29/2019 at 6:25 PM, Herman Mcpootis said:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 3 2200G 3.5 GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($94.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($73.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: GeIL - EVO POTENZA 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($59.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: MyDigitalSSD - BP5e Slim 7 240 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($39.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Seagate - BarraCuda 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($39.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: DIYPC - J180-BL ATX Mid Tower Case  ($36.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CX (2017) 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($24.99 @ Newegg) 
Monitor: Acer - SB220Q bi 21.5" 1920x1080 75 Hz Monitor  ($89.99 @ Amazon) 
Keyboard: Zalman - ZM-K380 Combo Wired Standard Keyboard w/Laser Mouse  ($13.39 @ Amazon) 
Total: $474.30
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-01-29 21:34 EST-0500

 

On 1/29/2019 at 6:26 PM, zlolslavez said:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2400G 3.6 GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($149.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: Asus - PRIME B450M-A/CSM Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($77.85 @ Amazon) 
Memory: Patriot - Viper 4 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($59.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($45.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Cooler Master - MasterBox E300L MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($34.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CX (2017) 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($39.99 @ Amazon) 
Monitor: Acer - SB220Q bi 21.5" 1920x1080 75 Hz Monitor  ($89.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $498.79
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-01-29 21:24 EST-0500

 

I think the best approach at $500 with a monitor would be APU, but a 2400G should be good enough to play Fallout 4 on mid 1080p and max out the 75HZ monitor.

 

With an increased budget I would add a used 580 for around $100, and change to CPU to something else perhaps a 2600.

edit: probably shouldn't go with that case 

I'll show these parts to him and let you guys know what happens! Thanks!

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On 1/29/2019 at 6:30 PM, Jurrunio said:

Tbh the PS4 does better in gaming compared to a new PC for $500. Even if used parts are used it's hard to match the PS4

I agree, but he wants a computer along with his PS4, he did say he was gonna use it for school and other things.

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On 1/29/2019 at 6:39 PM, xKyric said:

If you're willing to sacrifice on the motherboard, this is a viable option: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kpNzLJ
Alternately, you could ditch the RX 580, and purchase a used card locally. 
 

 

I'll let him know! Thanks!

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On 1/29/2019 at 6:23 PM, ChewToy! said:

Is the monitor need within that budget?

I'm going to say yes as I don't recall him having a monitor. He still hasn't told me if he wants one so I'm going to say yes for him ?

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