New Dell monitors.

[Virgule]

Hi,

 

Like most, I noticed Dell will bring 4K monitors to the market starting January 23rd or something. Can someone provide a quick comprehensive list of what CES's coverage revealed ? I'm getting confused between the different options.

 

- 24'', 4K, TN, 30 Hz, 699$

- 28'', 4K, ... ?

- 30'', 4K, ... ?

 

... ?

 

[dizmo]

I think the 28" was $699 TN. The 24" was IPS and $1299?

[Virgule]

I think the 28" was $699 TN. The 24" was IPS and $1299?

Oh thank god if I'm wrong!

 

Is the 24'' 16:10 ?

[FloRolf]

Oh thank god if I'm wrong!

 

Is the 24'' 16:10 ?

 

no, they are all 3840x2160 => 16:9

[MrSuperb]

Hi,

 

Like most, I noticed Dell will bring 4K monitors to the market starting January 23rd or something. Can someone provide a quick comprehensive list of what CES's coverage revealed ? I'm getting confused between the different options.

 

- 24'', 4K, TN, 30 Hz, 699$

- 28'', 4K, ... ?

- 30'', 4K, ... ?

 

... ?

 

24", 4K, IPS, 10bit, wide garmut (99% Adobe RGB), user-accessible LUT, 60Hz , $1,299.99

28", 4K, TN, 10bit (or 8Bit+AFRC), standard garmut (100% sRGB), 30Hz ,$699

32", 4K, IPS, 10bit, wide garmut (99% Adobe RGB) user-accessible LUT, 60Hz , $3,499.99

 

still working on it

[Virgule]

24", 4K, IPS, 10bit, wide garmut (99% Adobe RGB), user-accessible LUT, 60Hz , $1,299.99

28", 4K, TN, 10bit (or 8Bit+AFRC), standard garmut (100% sRGB), 30Hz ,$699

32", 4K, IPS, 10bit, wide garmut (99% Adobe RGB) user-accessible LUT, 60Hz , $3,499.99

 

still working on it

dat 24'' ! Hope this pricing forces ASUS to respond and in return, drives the prices down a bit. 

[MrSuperb]

dat 24'' ! Hope this pricing forces ASUS to respond and in return, drives the prices down a bit. 

 

That $1300 aren't even that expensive at all.

The U2413 (10bit, user-acessible LUT) also costs $600 and is only 1920x1200

 

or a NEC PA242W-BK (24",10bit) is $1100

[Virgule]

That $1300 aren't even that expensive at all.

The U2413 (10bit, user-acessible LUT) also costs $600 and is only 1920x1200

Yeah, I know it's a totally good deal. I just don't have that kind of money lying around.

[MrSuperb]

Yeah, I know it's a totally good deal. I just don't have that kind of money lying around.

 

haha ... me neither.

If the P2814Q would have 60Hz 4K I'd probably have bought it ....

 

Probably have to wait another year for affordable 4K at 60Hz + IPS

[Virgule]

Probably have to wait another year for affordable 4K at 60Hz + IPS

Yes, which is a shame if you ask me. Is that kind of panel really so costly to build ?

 

 

haha ... me neither.

If the P2814Q would have 60Hz 4K I'd probably have bought it ....

 

I would too but coming from a TN panel, and never have seen an IPS, I'm really tempted to just save and wait for an affordable 4K IPS for a well deserved upgrade.

[MrSuperb]

Yes, which is a shame if you ask me. Is that kind of panel really so costly to build ?

 

Well ... are they more expensive to manufacture than 1920x1200 panels? most likely. 4x the pixels also leads to a much higher chance of defective pixels/panels

 

But I'd bet by the end of 2014/ early 2015 we weill see atleat a 24" 4K/60Hz/IPS Monitor for about $599

[Virgule]

Well ... are they more expensive to manufacture than 1920x1200 panels? most likely. 4x the pixels also leads to a much higher chance of defective pixels/panels

 

But I'd bet by the end of 2014/ early 2015 we weill see atleat a 24" 4K/60Hz/IPS Monitor for about $599

1080P for 2014 it is !

[Glenwing]

Late 2014 should see the release of some more advanced DisplayPort controllers that can handle 4K 60Hz without doing the tiled image thing... So maybe wait for the next generation of these monitors in 8-12 months... they can only be the same price or cheaper anyway

[Virgule]

they can only be the same price or cheaper anyway

Well we've seen hardware that got way more expensive lately (anything from hd 7870 to r9 290x), but yea, monitors...

 

 

Late 2014 should see the release of some more advanced DisplayPort controllers that can handle 4K 60Hz without doing the tiled image thing... So maybe wait for the next generation of these monitors in 8-12 months

So you're saying current (read 'upcoming in near future' or 'CES announced') 4K monitors need 2 display port inputs and tile the resulting signals ?

[Nineshadow]

The 24" is,in fact, 23.8"

[Glenwing]

Well we've seen hardware that got way more expensive lately (anything from hd 7870 to r9 290x), but yea, monitors...

 

 

So you're saying current (read 'upcoming in near future' or 'CES announced') 4K monitors need 2 display port inputs and tile the resulting signals ?

 

You can use one physical cable but you have to set it up in multi-monitor mode in the software, use eyefinity or whatever to basically pretend to have two 1920x2160 monitors chained side by side because current DP input controllers can't do 4K 60Hz over a single channel, only in multi-stream/daisy-chain mode.

[Virgule]

You can use one physical cable but you have to set it up in multi-monitor mode, basically pretending to have two 1920x2160  monitors side by side because current DP input controllers can't do 4K 60Hz over a single channel, only in multi-stream/daisy-chain mode.

So that's why dell's 28'' is 30Hz !

 

How do you explain their 24'' 60Hz one ? This one must use 2 inputs right ?

[Glenwing]

So that's why dell's 28'' is 30Hz !

 

How do you explain their 24'' 60Hz one ? This one must use 2 inputs right ?

 

You can use only 1 input if you want.  DisplayPort has enough bandwidth to do 4K 60Hz but its bandwidth is split into 4 channels, which is how it does things like daisy-chaining 4 monitors off of one connector from the GPU.  But the DP input controllers available on monitors right now aren't powerful enough to take in 4K 60Hz over a single channel, so it needs to be split up over 2 channels (but that's still 1 physical connection).  The 4K panel is a single display but internally it's set up as two displays daisy chained together, so to speak.

[Virgule]

You can use only 1 input if you want.  DisplayPort has enough bandwidth to do 4K 60Hz but its bandwidth is split into 4 channels, which is how it does things like daisy-chaining 4 monitors off of one connector from the GPU.  But the DP input controllers available on monitors right now aren't powerful enough to take in 4K 60Hz over a single channel, so it needs to be split up over 2 channels (but that's still 1 physical connection).  The 4K panel is a single display but internally it's set up as two displays daisy chained together, so to speak.

Totally get it now ! Thanks for the explanation. Will look into the next generation of controllers when more information is available.