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Rhino-Boi
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Single or dual channel ram?

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47 minutes ago, Rhino-Boi said:

I have recently bought a rtx 2070. And I have a i5 7400. I want to know how much bottleneck I should expect from games

You should still be able to reach 1080p 60Hz without troubles.

 

I wouldn't be pushing something like 1440p or 1080p 120+Hz with that kind of setup, though. What motherboard and PSU do you have?

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50 minutes ago, Rhino-Boi said:

I have recently bought a rtx 2070. And I have a i5 7400. I want to know how much bottleneck I should expect from games

the bottleneck's pretty significant, see if you can get another stick of ram of a i7 used.

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1 minute ago, Rhino-Boi said:

i have a b250m plus board and 650 watt corsair psu. what kind of change would i need to make to get higher refresh rates @Crunchy Dragon

You'd probably want an i7-7700, as that would alleviate the bottleneck. I don't know if it'll eliminate it entirely, but it'll definitely make it better.

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18 minutes ago, Rhino-Boi said:

Single

My brother has single channel DDR4 2400 and a 7400 with a 970, sees a bottleneck sometimes. I don't think a quad core does so well with a 2070.

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Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

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How many watts do I need?

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Just now, fasauceome said:

I don't think a quad core does so well with a 2070.

I don't see how this ties into your RAM question at all.

 

The 7400 is kind of just a weak CPU in general, a 7600K would be better, but a 7700K is way better than either one.

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Just now, Rhino-Boi said:

whats the difference between the 7700 and the 7700k other than overclocking

thats the difference

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52 minutes ago, Crunchy Dragon said:

I don't see how this ties into your RAM question at all.

 

The 7400 is kind of just a weak CPU in general, a 7600K would be better, but a 7700K is way better than either one.

Dual channel helps in CPU bound tasks (obviously a lot more on Ryzen but still, single channel bandwidth is not so high)

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

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Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

PSU tier list

How many watts do I need?

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Just now, fasauceome said:

Dual channel helps in CPU bound tasks (obviously a lot more on Ryzen but still, single channel bandwidth is not so high)

I'm curious to see if the problem would persist with a better CPU such as the 7700, though...

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53 minutes ago, Rhino-Boi said:

whats the difference between the 7700 and the 7700k other than overclocking

7700K is a slightly better CPU, and is unlocked.

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42 minutes ago, Crunchy Dragon said:

I'm curious to see if the problem would persist with a better CPU such as the 7700, though...

The 7700 would pick up performance regardless of the single channel, but getting dual channel and an i7 is recommended.

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

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Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

PSU tier list

How many watts do I need?

PSU misconceptions, protections explained, group reg is bad

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