water chiller?

[InvisibleRasta]

hello guys i have been looking for a water chiller for my loop. waht do you guys think?  i found this one in aliexpress.would it create condensation?

https://it.aliexpress.com/item/S-A-Industriale-Chiller-CW-DG-110-V-CW3000-AG-220-V-Acqua-dispositivo-di-raffreddamento/32850780649.html?spm=a2g0y.search0104.3.75.23894d52enSpIP&transAbTest=ae803_4&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0%2Csearchweb201602_1_10065_10068_10890_319_10546_317_10548_10696_453_10084_454_10083_433_10618_431_10304_10307_10820_537_536_10843_10059_10884_10887_100031_321_322_10103-10890%2Csearchweb201603_54%2CppcSwitch_0&algo_pvid=9cc9e2e6-0ee0-4b0b-bbc6-915a7047b4b2&algo_expid=9cc9e2e6-0ee0-4b0b-bbc6-915a7047b4b2-11

[SenKa]

2 minutes ago, InvisibleRasta said:

hello guys i have been looking for a water chiller for my loop. waht do you guys think?  i found this one in aliexpress.would it create condensation?

https://it.aliexpress.com/item/S-A-Industriale-Chiller-CW-DG-110-V-CW3000-AG-220-V-Acqua-dispositivo-di-raffreddamento/32850780649.html?spm=a2g0y.search0104.3.75.23894d52enSpIP&transAbTest=ae803_4&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0%2Csearchweb201602_1_10065_10068_10890_319_10546_317_10548_10696_453_10084_454_10083_433_10618_431_10304_10307_10820_537_536_10843_10059_10884_10887_100031_321_322_10103-10890%2Csearchweb201603_54%2CppcSwitch_0&algo_pvid=9cc9e2e6-0ee0-4b0b-bbc6-915a7047b4b2&algo_expid=9cc9e2e6-0ee0-4b0b-bbc6-915a7047b4b2-11

I havent bought from AliExpress after a fiasco I had with a broken 3d printer, so I would personally buy on a site such as Amazon or even just go to your local pet store that sells aquariums.

[Firewrath9]

Yes. anything cold. (i.e below 10c (think cold water bottle)) will create condensation.

[caliusoptimus]

This isn't actually a chiller, it's a big radiator. There is no refrigeration system inside, but you could certainly hook a PC up. I have one just like it for my CO2 laser and I can tell ya it is quite loud.

[InvisibleRasta]

nono this has refrigeration, same principle as a fridge

 

[SolarNova]

honestly that doesnt look like a refrigerated unit. Morel ike an all in one ambient cooler & res. Use coiled pipeing instead of a rad aswell. I dont see a compressor in the internal pics. Just a res, pump , pipe coil and fan assembly.

 

 

i would avoid it.

 

if u want a cheap low powered chilelr take a look at what Hailea has to offer.

[caliusoptimus]

7 hours ago, InvisibleRasta said:

nono this has refrigeration, same principle as a fridge

I have the exact same unit on my CO2 laser... it is not refrigerated.

[InvisibleRasta]

19 minutes ago, caliusoptimus said:

I have the exact same unit on my CO2 laser... it is not refrigerated.

so its actually just a radiator? not refrigerated? does it cool down the water in your co2 laser? how much?

[nick name]

Anything that can cool to below the ambient room temperature can cause condensation.  It doesn't have to be extremely cold if you high dew point.  

[Dorobo18jp]

What if you use a temperature programmable water cooler and find a small form dehumidifier for your case would that drop the dew point to combat the condensation in your case and on your hardware? Just a thought. This was something i was planning to do in the future. 

By adjusting the temperature and dew point, you can determine the RH. Using the Santa Fe Psychrometric Calculator App, you can change the values of temperature and dew point to what they are in your room (case) to determine what the RH currently is and what you need to get the values of the temperature and dew point to have the RH in the optimum range (https://www.santa-fe-products.com/need-know-relative-humidity-dew-point/)

[SolarNova]

13 hours ago, Dorobo18jp said:

What if you use a temperature programmable water cooler and find a small form dehumidifier for your case would that drop the dew point to combat the condensation in your case and on your hardware? Just a thought. This was something i was planning to do in the future. 

By adjusting the temperature and dew point, you can determine the RH. Using the Santa Fe Psychrometric Calculator App, you can change the values of temperature and dew point to what they are in your room (case) to determine what the RH currently is and what you need to get the values of the temperature and dew point to have the RH in the optimum range (https://www.santa-fe-products.com/need-know-relative-humidity-dew-point/)

 

Wont work unless u seal the case.

 

Even then most mini dehumidifiers are desicant which eventualy saturate, and those that are powered, usualy using a TEC, will still only work down to about 40% humidity.

 

I've alreayd been through this line of thought when planning my next project, I can save u some time by saying ' just dont, it wont work well'.

 

If your going to seal a case or build a sealed case for a dehumidifer, u might aswell just skip that and fill the case with a dry inert gas like nitrogen.