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14 hours ago, Shiniontv said:

KEEP IN MIND THAT I MIGHT BE ABLE TO GET THE 8700K OR 9900K FOR THE PRICE OF A 2700X, SO I AM LOOKING FOR PERFORMANCE AND TEMPS

Then what the heck are you waiting for?! That's a bargain for a 9900K. Get the 9900K and you will be good to go for years. 

 

Performance wise, the 9900K is ahead of both the 8700K (in productivity) and 2700X (gaming and productivity) though you won't see the improvements in gaming unless you upgrade your GTX 1060 to at least at an RTX 2080 class card.

 

Don't worry about the temps, the Dark Rock Pro 4 is one of the better HSFs available and will be fine especially with a stock 9900K.

2 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

Get the i7 8700K and OC it to 5ghz with the motherboard and cooler you're already set on, I don't think the i9 9900K will be justified for you, you can still stream fine as every one said with QuickSync using the 8700K and video editing is more than fine on it also.

You see the thing is, that I might be able to get the 9900K or 8700K for the price of a 2700X, so idk what to do

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Just now, xg32 said:

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The i7 8700K is still perfectly fine for a pick too though, it games about the same as the i9 9900K, and OP is more on the hobby side of things any ways...

 

But either ways GTX 1060, feels kinda eh go all in on CPU and Memory side of things to keep with this GPU which will become a hard bottleneck.

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Just now, Shiniontv said:

You see the thing is, that I might be able to get the 9900K or 8700K for the price of a 2700X, so idk what to do

Eh if they are priced the same obviously go for the best lol.

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KEEP IN MIND THAT I MIGHT BE ABLE TO GET THE 8700K OR 9900K FOR THE PRICE OF A 2700X, SO I AM LOOKING FOR PERFORMANCE AND TEMPS

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Just now, Princess Cadence said:

The i7 8700K is still perfectly fine for a pick too though, it games about the same as the i9 9900K, and OP is more on the hobby side of things any ways...

 

But either ways GTX 1060, feels kinda eh go all in on CPU and Memory side of things to keep with this GPU which will become a hard bottleneck.

he said he can get a 9900k for cheap so it actually should be an easy decision, if he's worried about heat, then a 8700k thats not delidded should scare him more.

 

1 minute ago, Shiniontv said:

You see the thing is, that I might be able to get the 9900K or 8700K for the price of a 2700X, so idk what to do

 

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9900k 1.36v 5.1avx 4.9ring 85C 195w (daily) 1.02v 4.3ghz 80w 50C R20 temps score=5500 ll D15 ll Z390 taichi ult 1.60 bios ll gskill 4x8gb 14-14-14-30-280-20 ddr3666bdie 1.45v 45C 1.22sa/1.18 io  ll EVGA 30 non90 tie ftw3 1920//10000 0.85v 300w 71C ll  6x nf14 ippc 2000rpm ll 500gb nvme 970 evo ll l sandisk 4tb sata ssd +4tb exssd backup ll 2x 500gb samsung 970 evo raid 0 llCorsair graphite 780T ll EVGA P2 1200w ll w10p ll NEC PA241w ll pa32ucg-k

 

prebuilt 5800 stock ll 2x8gb ddr4 cl17 3466 ll oem 3080 0.85v 1890//10000 290w 74C ll 27gl850b ll pa272w ll w11

 

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Just now, xg32 said:

if he's worried about heat, then a 8700k thats not delidded should scare him more.

Tell me about the terrifying non-delidded 8700k

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Just now, Shiniontv said:

KEEP IN MIND THAT I MIGHT BE ABLE TO GET THE 8700K OR 9900K FOR THE PRICE OF A 2700X, SO I AM LOOKING FOR PERFORMANCE AND TEMPS

Then the 9900K, no question. Better than both the 8700K and 2700X so I don't really see why it's any question. Get the 9900K, a solid mobo, and an NH-D15 or similar.

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Just now, xg32 said:

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Yeah if the i9 9900K by some miracle costs lower than a 2700X it's a no brainer, OP actually worrying about temperature when he can have the best in the market for significantly cheaper is one odd thread to be on.

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Just now, Zando Bob said:

Then the 9900K, no question. Better than both the 8700K and 2700X so I don't really see why it's any question. Get the 9900K, a solid mobo, and an NH-D15 or similar.

Will probably get the Dark Rock Pro 4 and Z390 Aorus Elite

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1 minute ago, Princess Cadence said:

Yeah if the i9 9900K by some miracle costs lower than a 2700X it's a no brainer, OP actually worrying about temperature when he can have the best in the market for significantly cheaper is one odd thread to be on.

I do not want an XXL toaster, so I am just checking what is best

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7 minutes ago, Shiniontv said:

 

Just enable NVENC in OBS or use shadowplay to stream

Ryzen 3000 gets announced at CES in January.

I edit my posts a lot, Twitter is @LordStreetguru just don't ask PC questions there mostly...
 

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1 minute ago, Shiniontv said:

Will probably get the Dark Rock Pro 4 and Z390 Aorus Elite

Solid mobo, solid cooler, shouldn't have any issues.

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RAM:4x8GB HyperX Predator DDR4 @3200Mhz CL16 

GPU: Nvidia FE 2060 Super/Corsair HydroX 2070 FE block 

Storage:  1TB MP34 + 1TB 970 Evo + 500GB Atom30 + 250GB 960 Evo 

Optical Drives: LG WH14NS40 

PSU: EVGA 1600W T2 

Case & Fans: Corsair 750D Airflow - 3x Noctua iPPC NF-F12 + 4x Noctua iPPC NF-A14 PWM 

OS: Windows 11

 

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Mouse: EVGA X17

Keyboard: Corsair K55 RGB

 

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1 minute ago, Shiniontv said:

I do not want an XXL toaster

Mate I have no idea where you're coming from with this, get the meshify c with noctua fans all over the place doing a good pull and push air through its inside and the dark rock pro 4... done this is enough to run the CPU fine at 5ghz, literally.

 

I'm actually way more worried about your 10+ years old PSU you don't even know which brand/model it is and you plan re-using with an i9.

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CPU: AMD R9 7950XT  |~| Cooling: bq! Dark Rock 4 Pro |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Aorus Master |~| RAM: 32G Kingston HyperX |~| GPU: AMD Radeon RX 7900XTX (Reference) |~| PSU: Corsair HX1000 80+ Platinum |~| Windows Boot Drive: 2x 512GB (1TB total) Plextor SATA SSD (RAID0 volume) |~| Linux Boot Drive: 500GB Kingston A2000 |~| Storage: 4TB WD Black HDD |~| Case: Cooler Master Silencio S600 |~| Display 1 (leftmost): Eizo (unknown model) 1920x1080 IPS @ 60Hz|~| Display 2 (center): BenQ ZOWIE XL2540 1920x1080 TN @ 240Hz |~| Display 3 (rightmost): Wacom Cintiq Pro 24 3840x2160 IPS @ 60Hz 10-bit |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro (games / art) + Linux (distro: NixOS; programming and daily driver)
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Should I just wait for CES to see what AMD announces and whether or not I should buy the 9900K? If they announce 12 or 16 core cpus then I will be getting that 1151501%

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Just now, Princess Cadence said:

Mate I have no idea where you're coming from with this, get the meshify c with noctua fans all over the place doing a good pull and push air through its inside and the dark rock pro 4... done this is enough to run the CPU fine at 5ghz, literally.

This will be my first computer where I decide whats going inside it, so I am just trying to make sure everything is a-okay

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2 minutes ago, Shiniontv said:

This will be my first computer where I decide whats going inside it, so I am just trying to make sure everything is a-okay

From my experience, waiting is usually a bad idea, the fastest i've seen zen 2 rumored is 5.1 (probably matching the 9900k), the only concern then is if u need a 16 core, if you don't need more than 8 cores, and can get a 9900k for cheap, it's a no brainer.

5950x 1.33v 5.05 4.5 88C 195w ll R20 12k ll drp4 ll x570 dark hero ll gskill 4x8gb 3666 14-14-14-32-320-24-2T (zen trfc)  1.45v 45C 1.15v soc ll 6950xt gaming x trio 325w 60C ll samsung 970 500gb nvme os ll sandisk 4tb ssd ll 6x nf12/14 ippc fans ll tt gt10 case ll evga g2 1300w ll w10 pro ll 34GN850B ll AW3423DW

 

9900k 1.36v 5.1avx 4.9ring 85C 195w (daily) 1.02v 4.3ghz 80w 50C R20 temps score=5500 ll D15 ll Z390 taichi ult 1.60 bios ll gskill 4x8gb 14-14-14-30-280-20 ddr3666bdie 1.45v 45C 1.22sa/1.18 io  ll EVGA 30 non90 tie ftw3 1920//10000 0.85v 300w 71C ll  6x nf14 ippc 2000rpm ll 500gb nvme 970 evo ll l sandisk 4tb sata ssd +4tb exssd backup ll 2x 500gb samsung 970 evo raid 0 llCorsair graphite 780T ll EVGA P2 1200w ll w10p ll NEC PA241w ll pa32ucg-k

 

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Just now, xg32 said:

From my experience, waiting is usually a bad idea, the fastest i've seen zen 2 rumored is 5.1 (probably matching the 9900k), the only concern then is if u need a 16 core, if you don't need more than 8 cores, and can get a 9900k for cheap, it's a no brainer.

 

 

5 minutes ago, Shiniontv said:

This will be my first computer where I decide whats going inside it, so I am just trying to make sure everything is a-okay

If money is an issue the 2700 is perfectly fine, and half the price of the 9900K, pretty easy pick IMO if you can get around not being able to get it for whatever reason.

 

or even the R5 2600 is probably fine for you.

I edit my posts a lot, Twitter is @LordStreetguru just don't ask PC questions there mostly...
 

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what monitor resolution/refresh rate?

 

What games or other software do you need to run?

 

 

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11 minutes ago, xg32 said:

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I will probably get the 9900k, because I do not know how much longer I can survive using my i7 870 (thats not a typo) and it will do just fine for the next couple of years.

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14 hours ago, Shiniontv said:

KEEP IN MIND THAT I MIGHT BE ABLE TO GET THE 8700K OR 9900K FOR THE PRICE OF A 2700X, SO I AM LOOKING FOR PERFORMANCE AND TEMPS

Then what the heck are you waiting for?! That's a bargain for a 9900K. Get the 9900K and you will be good to go for years. 

 

Performance wise, the 9900K is ahead of both the 8700K (in productivity) and 2700X (gaming and productivity) though you won't see the improvements in gaming unless you upgrade your GTX 1060 to at least at an RTX 2080 class card.

 

Don't worry about the temps, the Dark Rock Pro 4 is one of the better HSFs available and will be fine especially with a stock 9900K.

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6 minutes ago, epsilon84 said:

Then what the heck are you waiting for?! That's a bargain for a 9900K. Get the 9900K and you will be good to go for years. 

 

Performance wise, the 9900K is ahead of both the 8700K (in productivity) and 2700X (gaming and productivity) though you won't see the improvements in gaming unless you upgrade your GTX 1060 to at least at an RTX 2080 class card.

 

Don't worry about the temps, the Dark Rock Pro 4 is one of the better HSFs available and will be fine especially with a stock 9900K.

Thank you! Good answer :)

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2 hours ago, Shiniontv said:

@xg32what parts do you use for your 9900k?

mobo is taichi, though i recommend a z390 master unless you need the 10G lan port

cooler is a d15

and ram is 

 

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820232471

 

just to squeeze out the last few % in performance in gaming (probably not worth it in most cases)

5950x 1.33v 5.05 4.5 88C 195w ll R20 12k ll drp4 ll x570 dark hero ll gskill 4x8gb 3666 14-14-14-32-320-24-2T (zen trfc)  1.45v 45C 1.15v soc ll 6950xt gaming x trio 325w 60C ll samsung 970 500gb nvme os ll sandisk 4tb ssd ll 6x nf12/14 ippc fans ll tt gt10 case ll evga g2 1300w ll w10 pro ll 34GN850B ll AW3423DW

 

9900k 1.36v 5.1avx 4.9ring 85C 195w (daily) 1.02v 4.3ghz 80w 50C R20 temps score=5500 ll D15 ll Z390 taichi ult 1.60 bios ll gskill 4x8gb 14-14-14-30-280-20 ddr3666bdie 1.45v 45C 1.22sa/1.18 io  ll EVGA 30 non90 tie ftw3 1920//10000 0.85v 300w 71C ll  6x nf14 ippc 2000rpm ll 500gb nvme 970 evo ll l sandisk 4tb sata ssd +4tb exssd backup ll 2x 500gb samsung 970 evo raid 0 llCorsair graphite 780T ll EVGA P2 1200w ll w10p ll NEC PA241w ll pa32ucg-k

 

prebuilt 5800 stock ll 2x8gb ddr4 cl17 3466 ll oem 3080 0.85v 1890//10000 290w 74C ll 27gl850b ll pa272w ll w11

 

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