Do i have enough power?

[Gerosar]

Hello, i was wondering if a 500w EVGA 80 plus bronze is enough to power up a 1080 asus strix or any sort of 1080s?

Here is my rig config,

 

mobo; ASUS PRIME A320M-K

GPU; right now i have a 1050TI 4GB but as you may have notice, im upgrading soon to a 1080

RAM; 2x8 GB Vengeance 3000Mhz

CPU; AMD Ryzen 5 2600

PSU; 500W evga 80 plus bronze

I have 2 SSD; Samsung 860 EVO 250GB and WD Blue 250GB

 

im pretty new in the Building section of a pc ( that means I've never installed a PSU, but i did installed myself the CPU, RAM AND SSD because it was an upgrade, yes ik its easy but im new to this, my friend built the pc for me before i did the upgrade)

 

Thank you for taking the time to read this thread.

 

 

[JohnnySuper]

More than enough. I think you could run it on 400W-450W. With 1080 you need somewhere around 600W I think. Someone else tell if 500W is enough for 1080. If it's 550W, I  would say certainly.

[Guest]

The recommended psu with my mobo according to the accompanied manual was atleast 500W..  
then my mind took a sidestep and i remembered a link i noticed earlier. 

Only the cpu and gpu are enough for a 565Watt recommendation.. you can fill out the rest yourself i guess  

https://us.msi.com/power-supply-calculator 

 

Its pretty normal to take 200W each cpu gpu and motherboard to be sure in your build but with killer cards … if the system or peripheral does not 'feel secure' enough it will hold back. You can still get grant results ofcourse if you don't expect a trip to the moon and back! 

edit nvm this … i measured with 2 cards ---- 

[Stefan Payne]

3 hours ago, Gerosar said:

Hello, i was wondering if a 500w EVGA 80 plus bronze is enough to power up a 1080 asus strix or any sort of 1080s?

If you don't have it, don't buy it.

There are better solutions for only a bit more money...

 

That one is pretty low quality...

[JohnnySuper]

Buy 650W EVGA G3 and OC everything. I have G2 in my build, really good psu and long warranty if you register. It's fucking overkill for 2500k + r9 290 but I'm going to use it till the end.

[Gerosar]

thanks for those advices, but one says its enough other say i need to buy a new one, im not looking to OC, im not good in that matter. im getting my 1080 between the 28-31, do i really need to upgrade my PSU before installing the GPU? because if so ill have to wait more the time i buy the pus and get it delivered at home and all i want i finish my setup for 144hz gaming, (yes I've never tried 144hz yet but thats why i want to upgrade)

[rares495]

I wouldn't power a 1080 with an EVGA bronze unit. Those aren't that great.

[Gerosar]

okay but that doesn't awnser the question but i guess I've gotta buy a new one, EVGA SuperNOVA 550 G3, 80 Plus Gold 550W will be enough? im kinda limited with my budget and this one would likely fit in it. 

[Guest]

33 minutes ago, Gerosar said:

okay but that doesn't awnser the question but i guess I've gotta buy a new one, EVGA SuperNOVA 550 G3, 80 Plus Gold 550W will be enough? im kinda limited with my budget and this one would likely fit in it. 

Hmm if the prices are the same as in europe i see a lot of other gold recommendations at 650watt for about the same price… but yea i'm guessing either silver or gold will be good enough for you, even at 550w … platinum being more for sli/crossfire builds .. so i guess you could say that gold should be good for top tier gpu's 

concerning your other question.... No you don't have to wait… Its not that you can damage your card in any way and its designed to work in many different systems over its lifetime 

[rares495]

1 hour ago, Christiaan21-03 said:

Hmm if the prices are the same as in europe i see a lot of other gold recommendations at 650watt for about the same price… but yea i'm guessing either silver or gold will be good enough for you, even at 550w … platinum being more for sli/crossfire builds .. so i guess you could say that gold should be good for top tier gpu's 

concerning your other question.... No you don't have to wait… Its not that you can damage your card in any way and its designed to work in many different systems over its lifetime 

What does platinum efficiency have to do with crossfire/sli? 

[Guest]

28 minutes ago, rares495 said:

What does platinum efficiency have to do with crossfire/sli? 

With the be quiet power supplies its specifically noted that platinum should be coupled with sli or crossfire to ensure maximum performance... I just take that for granted since i trust be quiet completely  

[seon123]

1 minute ago, Christiaan21-03 said:

With the be quiet power supplies its specifically noted that platinum should be coupled with sli or crossfire to ensure maximum performance... I just take that for granted since i trust be quiet completely  

How efficiently the PSU turns 110/230V AC into 12V DC has nothing to do with how the PC performs. 

Trusting a company is a great way to get ripped off. 

[Guest]

3 minutes ago, seon123 said:

How efficiently the PSU turns 110/230V AC into 12V DC has nothing to do with how the PC performs. 

Trusting a company is a great way to get ripped off. 

Really? because i do see merit in looking at it like this : plat for sli, gold for high tier systems .. silver for mid and bronze for low tier systems …. it even fits with the price range... i'm sure the cables and used materials become also somewhat more expensive 

[seon123]

11 minutes ago, Christiaan21-03 said:

Really? because i do see merit in looking at it like this : plat for sli, gold for high tier systems .. silver for mid and bronze for low tier systems …. it even fits with the price range... i'm sure the cables and used materials become also somewhat more expensive 

That does not work at all. For most, it's better to just ignore the efficiency, and focus on the electrical performance, protections, noise and various other features. 

For example, the G1 NEX is much worse than the grey label CX, even though it is Gold efficiency rated, Vs Bronze on the CX. 

As for cables, what you find on the Gold efficiency rated white RMx is much nicer than what you find on the Prime Titanium. Individually sleeved cables, Vs sleeved and ribboned cables. 

[OrionFOTL]

12 minutes ago, Christiaan21-03 said:

Really? because i do see merit in looking at it like this : plat for sli, gold for high tier systems .. silver for mid and bronze for low tier systems ….

Why? Explain your reasoning to us. If you feel like Platinum is more appropriate for SLI systems and Gold is appropriate for high tier systems, there must be a reason why you think so.

[Gerosar]

2 hours ago, Christiaan21-03 said:

Hmm if the prices are the same as in europe i see a lot of other gold recommendations at 650watt for about the same price… but yea i'm guessing either silver or gold will be good enough for you, even at 550w … platinum being more for sli/crossfire builds .. so i guess you could say that gold should be good for top tier gpu's 

concerning your other question.... No you don't have to wait… Its not that you can damage your card in any way and its designed to work in many different systems over its lifetime 

I live in canada but im in france until the 28 so, im paying canadian price. And thank you for answering the waiting question, im kind of a impatient guy and i will have my 1080 asus strix like between the 29-31

 

Another quick question; How do i install a New PSU?(ik it might look like a child question but i really wanna have an expert tips) like i said in the beginning, i have no clue and i want a anwser from this site since it look like you guys really know this stuff :D, any link to a guide or any tips you guys can pass to me would be really nice :),

[Guest]

47 minutes ago, OrionFOTL said:

Why? Explain your reasoning to us. If you feel like Platinum is more appropriate for SLI systems and Gold is appropriate for high tier systems, there must be a reason why you think so.

Maybe you should read more carefully. I did explain that i took the words of the manufacturer for granted. Platinum psu's are the top notch psu's of the branch.. you would only couple them too systems where its very important that every aspect will get its power delivered for the full 100%.... Every top notch gaming system could be considered a system you would want to fuel with only the best that technology has to offer, and certainly with a sli system... I myself picked a gold system just to stay in line with the money cost considered. I don't need any more reasoning then that coupled with my years of user experience with personal computers. Ofcourse if could have choosen a silver or even a bronze system since i'm also using the 50% usage calculation in which you make sure that you have atleast twice as much watts as the system is expected to use… All to make sure i can use the psu for a prolonged period of time with 'heavy loads' …. I guess that when you verge on the limit of your system it becomes even more important to make use of high quality equipment 

[Guest]

17 minutes ago, Gerosar said:

Another quick question; How do i install a New PSU?(ik it might look like a child question but i really wanna have an expert tips) like i said in the beginning, i have no clue and i want a anwser from this site since it look like you guys really know this stuff :D, any link to a guide or any tips you guys can pass to me would be really nice :),

Well if your current system is a click and play system you won't have any troubles at all. just remove all the cables, then remove the bolts sticking out of the back insert the new psu, fasten it and place all the new cables that came with your psu … it should be pretty obvious… you can even try making pictures of the old setup so you don't go wrong though the manual of the motherboard provides you with instructions on which cable should go where. If your old psu is manually connected to the case you might want to get some expert help.. Maybe the connectors used match but if that is not the case i would call in an expert 

[OrionFOTL]

2 hours ago, Christiaan21-03 said:

Platinum psu's are the top notch psu's of the branch.. you would only couple them too systems where its very important that every aspect will get its power delivered for the full 100%....

2 hours ago, Christiaan21-03 said:

I myself picked a gold system just to stay in line with the money cost considered.

2 hours ago, Christiaan21-03 said:

All to make sure i can use the psu for a prolonged period of time with 'heavy loads' …. I guess that when you verge on the limit of your system it becomes even more important to make use of high quality equipment 

I need to repeat my question - why do you think the efficiency rating (Bronze, Gold, Platinum, and others) has any effect on power delivery, "for the full 100%", prolonged heavy loads, and overall power supply quality?

 

It seems to me like you think efficiency is a sign of quality, when those two things are not related at all. It's quite literally not connected at all.

 

Imagine me saying "I only recommend red cars for city driving, green cars for country driving and black cars for offroad". This doesn't make sense, since colour of the car obviously doesn't matter on different types of roads.

Likewise, efficiency of a power supply has no effect on its power delivery, ripple, and of course components inside the PC can't even sense what efficiency their PSU has, so it has no effect on them either.

[Guest]

4 hours ago, OrionFOTL said:

It seems to me like you think efficiency is a sign of quality, when those two things are not related at all. It's quite literally not connected at all.

Only to someone who seems to be a bit blindsided. Look all those facts i mentioned are pointing at the fact that with prolonged heady loads your better off with gold or platinum device then a psu with a lower power efficiency. If you combine the 50% calculation and the gold ratings you can be assured of using your p.c. as efficient as possible … without any extra more watts going to heat which in turn you have to cool for again so you pay tripple for in a sense... this fact alone is enough to see merit in top tier pc's with atleast gold or platinum because those are the machines equipped to use a lot of power. On the lower end of the spectrum the values are not that high but maybe high enough to consider, if your planning to use your machine for atleast 5 to 10 years to ensure its build from quality material. 
Its you dear friend who mixes stuff up and withholds his knowledge only using energy to seemingly try to waste time on a given fact  

[KuJoe]

I'm running a GTX 1080 and Ryzen 1700 on a 450W PSU without any issues, peak usage is 341W with the CPU and GPU maxed out to 100% load.

[OrionFOTL]

41 minutes ago, Christiaan21-03 said:

Only to someone who seems to be a bit blindsided. Look all those facts i mentioned are pointing at the fact that with prolonged heady loads your better off with gold or platinum device then a psu with a lower power efficiency. If you combine the 50% calculation and the gold ratings you can be assured of using your p.c. as efficient as possible … without any extra more watts going to heat which in turn you have to cool for again so you pay tripple for in a sense... this fact alone is enough to see merit in top tier pc's with atleast gold or platinum because those are the machines equipped to use a lot of power.

If you have a 600W Gold power supply and your PC consumes 300W at gaming load, and you play 3hrs/day and keep it idle for 7hrs/day, then the electricity costs you $90.97 per year.

If you had a 600W Platinum power supply instead, it would cost you $88.47 per year. $2.5 less per year.

 

As an example, a Seasonic Focus Plus Gold 650W costs $147. A Platinum version of the same unit costs $193. You'd have to run the PC those 3+7 hours a day for 19 years to make up the price difference.

 

52 minutes ago, Christiaan21-03 said:

if your planning to use your machine for atleast 5 to 10 years to ensure its build from quality material. 

8 hours ago, Christiaan21-03 said:

With the be quiet power supplies its specifically noted that platinum should be coupled with sli or crossfire to ensure maximum performance...

Once again, efficiency has nothing to do with the performance of your PC, with the quality of the materials, quality of the components, clean power, or whatever else.

Efficiency doesn't tell you anything about those things. If you pick a PSU based on its efficiency, you will randomly end up with some great, decent, or crappy PSUs. Just like if you choose cars by colour you will randomly end up with good and bad ones.

[Guest]

24 minutes ago, OrionFOTL said:

Once again, efficiency has nothing to do with the performance of your PC, with the quality of the materials, quality of the components, clean power, or whatever else.

Efficiency doesn't tell you anything about those things. If you pick a PSU based on its efficiency, you will randomly end up with some great, decent, or crappy PSUs. Just like if you choose cars by colour you will randomly end up with good and bad ones

that is a very weird statement if you consider that the primairy pc working all consists of data transferral rates, heat reduction systems and cores working together in one thight package. If the race between nividia and amd has taught us one thing which is that refinement can beat pure power. 

You could be right in your calculations for that matter... In your example there is almost no gain with those levels considering the platinum psu is atleast 40 dollars... but if you take a 1000W machine under the loop the figures change 

[Stefan Payne]

13 hours ago, Christiaan21-03 said:

Really? because i do see merit in looking at it like this : plat for sli, gold for high tier systems .. silver for mid and bronze for low tier systems …. it even fits with the price range... i'm sure the cables and used materials become also somewhat more expensive 

I rather have a 1200W Antec High Current Pro GOLD than an Aurum Platinum.

 

So what you're saying is nonsense. You want a good quality PSU, regardless the efficiency!

Because one has nothing to do with the other at all. You can have a shitty platinum one like the Aurum, you can have an awesome Gold unit like that Antec.

Awesome Bronze unit ain't made these days...

[Guest]

7 hours ago, Stefan Payne said:

So what you're saying is nonsense. You want a good quality PSU, regardless the efficiency!

you are pulling statements out of their context! in theory … the trademarked certification should be enough and should point at a good quality psu… What is up with you people i do wonder? or where do you get that nonsense from that you are spilling here Stefan Payne? Aren't you a bit young to talk about this subject?