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What To Pick?

i'm getting i7-8700k or i7-9700k 

 

so, what water cooling should i get?

 

NZXT Kraken x62 / x72

Corsair H150i PRO / H151

CoolerMaster MasterLiquid ML360R

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A Dark Rock Pro 4 if you care for value for money, if not it doesn't matter all of them are the same with different branding and RGB arrangement, like seriously.

 

Corsair uses its own fans and that's it.

 

AiO are expensive, worse performing compared to their air cooler counter-parts, and way more likely to fail as it has far more breaking points.

 

Also always have in mind if by chance it leaks and kills your system nobody is refunding you the dead hardware.

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I'm not plannning on Air Cooling,

 

plus if it leaks, the warranty will cover it!

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Go with an corsair aio if you want one..sure the nzxt ones are nice (i have the x62 one) but the software is shit..really bad..icue from corsair is waaay nicer..and if you have any corsair devices with rgb you could controll them all with a single software.

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1 minute ago, sn00pd000gg said:

Go with an corsair aio if you want one..sure the nzxt ones are nice (i have the x62 one) but the software is shit..really bad..icue from corsair is waaay nicer..and if you have any corsair devices with rgb you could controll them all with a single software.

So if i dont care about the software go to x62?

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12 hours ago, Jamal Abo said:

i'm getting i7-8700k or i7-9700k 

 

so, what water cooling should i get?

 

NZXT Kraken x62 / x72

Corsair H150i PRO / H151

CoolerMaster MasterLiquid ML360R

whats this build going to cost all in 2-3000$? and you dont want custom loop. no offense

11 hours ago, Jamal Abo said:

I'm not plannning on Air Cooling,

 

plus if it leaks, the warranty will cover it!

have you done your research and made sure that they all offer the same warranty.

11 hours ago, Jamal Abo said:

So if i dont care about the software go to x62?

what do you want RGB, easy to use RGB, or actual cooling performance?

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9 hours ago, Neo-revo said:

whats this build going to cost all in 2-3000$? and you dont want custom loop. no offense

have you done your research and made sure that they all offer the same warranty.

what do you want RGB, easy to use RGB, or actual cooling performance?

I'm planning on custom loop, but in the future, 

 

and yes i have contacted NZXT and they confirmed that their warranty covers leaks (and damged products), 

and corsair in their forums,

 

 

priority: 

1) cooling performance

2) good price

3) RGB

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31 minutes ago, Jamal Abo said:

priority: 

1) cooling performance

2) good price

3) RGB

1) Dark Rock Pro 4 best cooling performance

2) Dark Rock Pro 4 much cheaper

3) Welp... Guess AiO it is then.

 

21 hours ago, Jamal Abo said:

I'm not plannning on Air Cooling,

 

plus if it leaks, the warranty will cover it!

That's a shame, you're really not gaining any thing with an AiO but "aesthetics" also warranty won't cover your other hardware, Corsair still may have the best costumer support on this though so if you're 100% set on this grab the H150i PRO.

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CPU: Intel Core i7 10700KF @ 5.0Ghz (5.1Ghz 4-core) |~| Cooling: bq! Dark Rock 4 Pro |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Z490 UD |~| RAM: 32G Kingston HyperX @ 2666Mhz CL13 |~| GPU: AMD Radeon RX 6800 (Reference) |~| PSU: Corsair HX1000 80+ Platinum |~| Windows Boot Drive: 2x 512GB (1TB total) Plextor SATA SSD (RAID0 volume) |~| Linux Boot Drive: 500GB Kingston A2000 |~| Storage: 4TB WD Black HDD |~| Case: Cooler Master Silencio S600 |~| Display 1 (leftmost): Eizo (unknown model) 1920x1080 IPS @ 60Hz|~| Display 2 (center): BenQ ZOWIE XL2540 1920x1080 TN @ 240Hz |~| Display 3 (rightmost): Wacom Cintiq Pro 24 3840x2160 IPS @ 60Hz 10-bit |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro (games / art) + Linux (distro: NixOS; programming and daily driver)
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4 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

1) Dark Rock Pro 4 best cooling performance

2) Dark Rock Pro 4 much cheaper

3) Welp... Guess AiO it is then.

 

That's a shame, you're really not gaining any thing with an AiO but "aesthetics" also warranty won't cover your other hardware, Corsair still may have the best costumer support on this though so if you're 100% set on this grab the H150i PRO.

as i have said before air cooling is not an option and Water cooling i good option,

 

plus warranty covers other hardwares ( contacted NXZT ).

and i'm planning on overclocking, so air cooling wont help as much as water cooling.

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Just now, Jamal Abo said:

plus warranty covers other hardwares ( contacted NXZT ).

I really hope you never need it, you'll face a harsh truth if you do, seen enough stories about it.

 

Just now, Jamal Abo said:

and i'm planning on overclocking, so air cooling wont help as much as water cooling.

You really should, i don't know, watch some youtube videos on the subject or something? a Noctua NH-DL15 will outperform all these AiO you mentioned in cooling performance for overclocking, you seem highly biased against air cooling.

 

I am cooling an i9 9900K with a modest air cooler that by 1/3 of the price performs like 280mm AiO's.

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Luna, the temporary Desktop:

CPU: Intel Core i7 10700KF @ 5.0Ghz (5.1Ghz 4-core) |~| Cooling: bq! Dark Rock 4 Pro |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Z490 UD |~| RAM: 32G Kingston HyperX @ 2666Mhz CL13 |~| GPU: AMD Radeon RX 6800 (Reference) |~| PSU: Corsair HX1000 80+ Platinum |~| Windows Boot Drive: 2x 512GB (1TB total) Plextor SATA SSD (RAID0 volume) |~| Linux Boot Drive: 500GB Kingston A2000 |~| Storage: 4TB WD Black HDD |~| Case: Cooler Master Silencio S600 |~| Display 1 (leftmost): Eizo (unknown model) 1920x1080 IPS @ 60Hz|~| Display 2 (center): BenQ ZOWIE XL2540 1920x1080 TN @ 240Hz |~| Display 3 (rightmost): Wacom Cintiq Pro 24 3840x2160 IPS @ 60Hz 10-bit |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro (games / art) + Linux (distro: NixOS; programming and daily driver)
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34 minutes ago, Jamal Abo said:

as i have said before air cooling is not an option and Water cooling i good option,

Why not?

34 minutes ago, Jamal Abo said:

and i'm planning on overclocking, so air cooling wont help as much as water cooling.

Do you know how loud AIO liquid coolers are (compared to good air coolers like the NH-D15, DRP4, and NH-D15s)? And good air coolers like the ones I mentioned outperform expensive AIO liquid coolers FYI.

CPU: Intel Core i7-950 Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD3R CPU Cooler: NZXT HAVIK 140 RAM: Corsair Dominator DDR3-1600 (1x2GB), Crucial DDR3-1600 (2x4GB), Crucial Ballistix Sport DDR3-1600 (1x4GB) GPU: ASUS GeForce GTX 770 DirectCU II 2GB SSD: Samsung 860 EVO 2.5" 1TB HDDs: WD Green 3.5" 1TB, WD Blue 3.5" 1TB PSU: Corsair AX860i & CableMod ModFlex Cables Case: Fractal Design Meshify C TG (White) Fans: 2x Dynamic X2 GP-12 Monitors: LG 24GL600F, Samsung S24D390 Keyboard: Logitech G710+ Mouse: Logitech G502 Proteus Spectrum Mouse Pad: Steelseries QcK Audio: Bose SoundSport In-Ear Headphones

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Basically what the last 4 people said.

AIO will be much louder. Air will get better results that AIO.  Custom water cooling you have all the control of your parts.... Easier to get better temps

 

 

As for recommendation I'd choose corsair if I were going to use an AIO..

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On 12/17/2018 at 2:24 PM, Princess Cadence said:

AiO are expensive, worse performing compared to their air cooler counter-parts

I would not agree on that. Going from an NH-D14 to H150i lowered my temps waaaaay down both in idle and load. Problem with the air cooler for me was that it used hot air from inside the case to cool the CPU whereas the AIO takes air from the outside directly (front intake). As a bonus the AIO does not heat up the inside of my case as much as the Noctua did and my GPU temps are lower now.

 

Edit: I can highly recommend the H150i, I love it.

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1 hour ago, r2724r16 said:

Why not?

Do you know how loud AIO liquid coolers are (compared to good air coolers like the NH-D15, DRP4, and NH-D15s)? And good air coolers like the ones I mentioned outperform expensive AIO liquid coolers FYI.

My H150i is a tiny bit louder than my NH-D14, but not on much on Quiet settings, which outperforms the Noctua on quiet settings.

 

At idle I can not hear the fans even with my ear next to them. The only thing you hear is a slight pump noise.

 

At load my H150i is MUCH quieter than my NH-D14 was. Can barely hear the fans ramp up on the H150i if you keep it on quiet settings.

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9 minutes ago, Beeta said:

My H150i is a tiny bit louder than my NH-D14, but not on much on Quiet settings, which outperforms the Noctua on quiet settings.

 

At load my H150i is MUCH quieter than my NH-D14 was. Can barely hear the fans ramp up on the H150i if you keep it on quiet settings.

NH-D14 and NH-D15 are not the same. I mentioned the NH-D15 above, not the NH-D14.

16 minutes ago, Beeta said:

Edit: I can highly recommend the H150i, I love it.

It's certainly not a good value, compared to the air coolers I mentioned above (NH-D15, NH-D15s, DRP4).

CPU: Intel Core i7-950 Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD3R CPU Cooler: NZXT HAVIK 140 RAM: Corsair Dominator DDR3-1600 (1x2GB), Crucial DDR3-1600 (2x4GB), Crucial Ballistix Sport DDR3-1600 (1x4GB) GPU: ASUS GeForce GTX 770 DirectCU II 2GB SSD: Samsung 860 EVO 2.5" 1TB HDDs: WD Green 3.5" 1TB, WD Blue 3.5" 1TB PSU: Corsair AX860i & CableMod ModFlex Cables Case: Fractal Design Meshify C TG (White) Fans: 2x Dynamic X2 GP-12 Monitors: LG 24GL600F, Samsung S24D390 Keyboard: Logitech G710+ Mouse: Logitech G502 Proteus Spectrum Mouse Pad: Steelseries QcK Audio: Bose SoundSport In-Ear Headphones

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5 minutes ago, r2724r16 said:

NH-D14 and NH-D15 are not the same. I mentioned the NH-D15 above, not the NH-D14.

It's certainly not a good value, compared to the air coolers I mentioned above (NH-D15, NH-D15s, DRP4).

NH-D14 and NH-D15 are comparable to eachother, not much different to be honest. https://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/noctua_nh_d15_review,10.html here you can even see that the NH-D14 is one degree lower on load.

 

I can agree on that it is not good value (I got mine for a damn good price on black friday so it was better value than MSRP). If you want the best bang for the buck I would say a good air cooler is of course the way to go or look at H115i that performs about the same as H150i. But he did say he don't want air cooling so I gave my input. But if you don't care if it costs a bit more I would say heck yeah go for it, I love mine and it was worth every krona (Swedish currency :P)

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1 minute ago, Beeta said:

NH-D14 and NH-D15 are comparable to eachother, not much different to be honest. https://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/noctua_nh_d15_review,10.html here you can even see that the NH-D14 is one degree lower on load.

Tweaktown shows that the NH-D15 is more quiet than the NH-D14. The H150i and NH-D15 trade blows in terms of thermal and noise performance (depending on what mode the fans of the H150i are), but the NH-D15 is a better value, by a lot. But again the H150i looks better.

 

This topic can be debated to hell, better to end it here :) 

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19 minutes ago, r2724r16 said:

Tweaktown shows that the NH-D15 is more quiet than the NH-D14. The H150i and NH-D15 trade blows in terms of thermal and noise performance (depending on what mode the fans of the H150i are), but the NH-D15 is a better value, by a lot. But again the H150i looks better.

 

This topic can be debated to hell, better to end it here :) 

Yes it can, and I guess most tests are done on an open test bench. I would argue that an AIO is better if you place both in normal case - from my own experience.

 

Well, let's agree to disagree. :)

 

PS. Not to bash at all on good air coolers, loved my NH-D14 that ran almost 24/7 for 8 years, and still works and looks like new. Have one in my server as well, they are really good at what they do. They are a solid piece of equipment.

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From my experience, (i have owned multiple air coolers, X62 Kraken and now a custom loop) If im going to go liquid cooling then it will always be custom loop at this point. Air cooler will perform just as well in any other situation. AIO are simply not worth the money. 

 

if you must go liquid then save up and go custom, otherwise get a Dark Rock Pro and call it a day

My current build ↘️⬇️↙️

 

 

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1) Custom loop, (in the future)

but for now i'm getting water cooling,

 

and i dont know what to get, 

Corsair H115i Pro

or

NZXT Kraken X62

 

who is better in performance ?

 

and for loud or not, if i'm not in idle that means that i'm gaming which in that case i'm using headphones (not gonna hear a thing)

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1) shit pump dies in 6 months, crap software that hogs your pc, costs a kidney considering the dirt quality of materials used (tubes, ugly plastic, crap tier leds) avoid nzxt as their products are a literal scam.

2) Is literally the same as the 110i GTX with a larger rad and some more leds, not worth the extra money imo

3) block is made of tin and layered with something that looks like copper from the distance, fans like those you could get for $5 at any pc discount store

 

If I were you I'd go air (Dark Rock Pro 3 or the Noctua HHD15) OR get the corsair 110i or the asetek 570LX

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