new gpu

[hollyh88]

33 minutes ago, Neo-revo said:

then choose the most future proofed option.   (air and water cooling aside)

 

 if you dont plan to upgrade again any time soon, then get a 2070 that way you can benefit from future upgrade/tweaks to the new tech.

 

if you want to have a real upgrade in the next year or two then get the cheapest option and save all your spare funds..

 

gpu more or less = more money= better frames...  if you are happy with your frames then dont upgrade.. but at a certain point all the options are diminishing returns and relies on how badly you want the resulting performance

yes i thought about that too. because i know that a overclocked rtx 2070 works better than a gtx 1080 but i dont know how much fps increase i would have compared to that and my current gpu. because sadly most reviews or vids about fps on youtube have k version cpu's.

[Neo-revo]

2 minutes ago, hollyh88 said:

yes i thought about that too. because i know that a overclocked rtx 2070 works better than a gtx 1080 but i dont know how much fps increase i would have compared to that and my current gpu. because sadly most reviews or vids about fps on youtube have k version cpu's.

because if you put a F1 motor in a smart car its still a smart car

[Neo-revo]

what are your CPU loads like?

 

do they hover around 50-70% when you game?

 

K just means you can Overclock,  like my BE 9590, i can run faster than the 5.0 if i can ensure cooling

[hollyh88]

1 minute ago, Neo-revo said:

because if you put a F1 motor in a smart car its still a smart car

exactly. but if you have found a video with my specs do let me know  

[hollyh88]

5 minutes ago, Neo-revo said:

what are your CPU loads like?

 

do they hover around 50-70% when you game?

 

K just means you can Overclock,  like my BE 9590, i can run faster than the 5.0 if i can ensure cooling

in 1080p fallout 4 around 80% on 1440p around 40%/60% but in bf1/v 95%/100% but those are very cpu heavy

but it does stay around 50/60 degrees when gaming with the hyper 212 evo that i have. so temps are okay.

[Neo-revo]

1 hour ago, hollyh88 said:

i5 7600

https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Intel-Core-i5-7600/Rating/3890

 

Unless you are already hovering around 100% load when gaming you wont likely encounter a bottleneck with the extra info being fed to the PCIE lanes. 

 

if you do get modest performance increase.... more ram/faster drives (hopefully on ssd for game files already)  or  even closing the back round programs to reduce thread use and allow for the more focused single tread performance (gaming)

 

if you really want to do multi screen/multi tasking with multi browsers and tons of tabs i recommend more than 16Gb ram and at least a 6 core cpu...  

[Neo-revo]

an 8700K is only 30% better... to give you an idea

[hollyh88]

5 minutes ago, Neo-revo said:

an 8700K is only 30% better... to give you an idea

yea so basically whether I have an RTX 2070 with my current CPU or an 8700k it doesn't matter greatly for the fps increase from a gtx 1070 sc to an RTX 2070? 

and this cpu is working pretty solid for using several tabs. i currently have a 4k youtube vid running + 9 tabs open and i have my tv hooked up to my pc also so that one is on right now as well. and my cpu is at 21% while my memory is at 47% and gpu is at 30%

[Neo-revo]

1 minute ago, hollyh88 said:

yea so basically whether I have an RTX 2070 with my current CPU or an 8700k it doesn't matter greatly for the fps increase from a gtx 1070 sc to an RTX 2070? 

and this cpu is working pretty solid for using several tabs. i currently have a 4k youtube vid running + 9 tabs open and i have my tv hooked up to my pc also so that one is on right now as well. and my cpu is at 21% while my memory is at 47% and gpu is at 30%

basically,  it sounds like in some game you would get smoother performance, and others would get frame boosts.

 

4K video isn't as taxing as 4K games (remember you mouse is basically the camera and your computer renders the 'video' as an active participant)

 

if you want a real increase  it will come with all the F1 upgrades or you wont benefit.  the vary definition of bottle-necking

[hollyh88]

4 minutes ago, Neo-revo said:

basically,  it sounds like in some game you would get smoother performance, and others would get frame boosts.

 

4K video isn't as taxing as 4K games (remember you mouse is basically the camera and your computer renders the 'video' as an active participant)

 

if you want a real increase  it will come with all the F1 upgrades or you wont benefit.  the vary definition of bottle-necking

yeah and i basically cant afford now to spend around 1900 euro extra for a gpu/cpu and new psu and a new motherboard. which i really cant do at the moment.  

but which of the 3 do you recommend? and with what reason

[Neo-revo]

1 hour ago, Neo-revo said:

then choose the most future proofed option.   (air and water cooling aside)

 

 if you dont plan to upgrade again any time soon, then get a 2070 that way you can benefit from future upgrade/tweaks to the new tech.

 

if you want to have a real upgrade in the next year or two then get the cheapest option and save all your spare funds..

 

gpu more or less = more money= better frames...  if you are happy with your frames then dont upgrade.. but at a certain point all the options are diminishing returns and relies on how badly you want the resulting performance

2070 if you dont plan to upgrade your system (mobo/cpu)

 

1070ti if its strictly a money thing

if you think you can get a more core CPU down the line for your mobo or a K (to increase computing power) dont upgrade any and then get a better gpu after that

 

that being said you have a decent chip.   you can potentially put any card you want in, and get decent frames with the correct settings.  

 

You are at a point where you almost need a better chip to really get the better frames...   if you cannot optimize your system and close all excess applications when you game

[hollyh88]

24 minutes ago, Neo-revo said:

2070 if you dont plan to upgrade your system (mobo/cpu)

 

1070ti if its strictly a money thing

if you think you can get a more core CPU down the line for your mobo or a K (to increase computing power) dont upgrade any and then get a better gpu after that

 

that being said you have a decent chip.   you can potentially put any card you want in, and get decent frames with the correct settings.  

 

You are at a point where you almost need a better chip to really get the better frames...   if you cannot optimize your system and close all excess applications when you game

Thanks for your input  

ill probably first upgrade my gpu for future proof. seeing as how they said that metro was going to use rtx but the card itself is basically a upgraded gtx 1080 for less money. And upgrade my cpu etc further down the line. 

[Neo-revo]

7 minutes ago, hollyh88 said:

Thanks for your input  

ill probably first upgrade my gpu for future proof. seeing as how they said that metro was going to use rtx but the card itself is basically a upgraded gtx 1080 for less money. And upgrade my cpu etc further down the line. 

abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz

 

 

GTX-  RTX   its just a model call name (that they happened to name another proprietary function to as hype so they can charge all the moneys)

 

remember if they didn't have AMD's freeware to take and develop and make better/ lock to their cards only.  then there likey wouldn't be any upgrades like we get in the first place....   look how Intel stagnated and now is being RAPED by Ryzen....

[Turtle Rig]

3 hours ago, Firewrath9 said:

Just get a 1070 ti, at 330-350$ its best value.

Yes and let me add to this that your CPU is a nice bottleneck so anything above a 1070 Ti as suggested will play crappy.  Your CPU is too weak for a 2070 RTX card.

 

For that CPU I would get a 1060 or ATI equivalent. 

[Neo-revo]

2 minutes ago, Turtle Rig said:

ATI equivalent

The acquisition of ATI in 2006 was important to AMD's strategic development of its Fusion generation of computer processors, which integrated general processing abilities with graphics processing functions within a chip. Since 2010, AMD's graphics processor products have ceased using the ATI brand name.^[1]

 

we dont call them ATI any more.  just VEGA or AMD cards. 

[mxk]

@Turtle Rig took the words out of my mouth. 

 

You should probably upgrade CPU and GPU together or get a better CPU and motherboard first.

[Turtle Rig]

1 minute ago, Neo-revo said:

The acquisition of ATI in 2006 was important to AMD's strategic development of its Fusion generation of computer processors, which integrated general processing abilities with graphics processing functions within a chip. Since 2010, AMD's graphics processor products have ceased using the ATI brand name.^[1]

 

we dont call them ATI any more.  just VEGA or AMD cards. 

Yes yes,  Sorry I always like to say ATI for video card, and AMD for CPU's lol ,,,,,,,,,,, or I can just say the big read machine and what not.

[mxk]

Just now, Neo-revo said:

The acquisition of ATI in 2006 was important to AMD's strategic development of its Fusion generation of computer processors, which integrated general processing abilities with graphics processing functions within a chip. Since 2010, AMD's graphics processor products have ceased using the ATI brand name.^[1]

 

we dont call them ATI any more.  just VEGA or AMD cards. 

damn all this for one typo? lmao I think he knows its just people might be used to calling it ATI.

[Neo-revo]

1 minute ago, Turtle Rig said:

Yes yes,  Sorry I always like to say ATI for video card, and AMD for CPU's lol ,,,,,,,,,,, or I can just say the big read machine and what not.

LOL i feel you Just thought i'd mention it...    maybe Radeon or VEGA,  since ATI is a branding more than make these days

1 minute ago, mxk. said:

damn all this for one typo? lmao I think he knows its just people might be used to calling it ATI.

what about the people that know history?  like when Nvidia was owned by ATI?  or 3dFX the real innovators of their day that basically led to gpu's for gaming as we know it.

[mxk]

Just now, Neo-revo said:

LOL i feel you Just thought i'd mention it...    maybe Radeon or VEGA,  since ATI is a branding more than make these days

what about the people that know history?  like when Nvidia was owned by ATI?  or 3dFX the real innovators of their day that basically led to gpu's for gaming as we know it.

rip voodoo cards. Nvidia didn't even make SLI lol.

[Neo-revo]

23 minutes ago, Neo-revo said:

 

remember if they(Nvidia) didn't have AMD's freeware to take and develop and make better/ lock to their cards only.  then there likey wouldn't be any upgrades like we get in the first place....  

 

2 minutes ago, mxk. said:

rip voodoo cards. Nvidia didn't even make SLI lol.

almost like thats what i was alluding to

[mxk]

4 minutes ago, Neo-revo said:

 

almost like thats what i was alluding to

almost like I was stating the obvious on purpose.

[Neo-revo]

1 minute ago, mxk. said:

almost like I was stating the obvious on purpose.

i know lots of stuff.   lots of it wholly useless to the rest and vice versa.  some times i forget that tangents are better connected than left ambiguous

[hollyh88]

1 hour ago, Turtle Rig said:

Yes and let me add to this that your CPU is a nice bottleneck so anything above a 1070 Ti as suggested will play crappy.  Your CPU is too weak for a 2070 RTX card.

 

For that CPU I would get a 1060 or ATI equivalent. 

bottleneck a 2070? why would it be bottlenecked at 1440p? 

and i think you missed the text that i already have a 1070 sc so doing a step down wouldnt do much lmao. and my gtx 1070 sc isnt bottlenecked at all. 

[hollyh88]

1 hour ago, Neo-revo said:

abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz

 

 

GTX-  RTX   its just a model call name (that they happened to name another proprietary function to as hype so they can charge all the moneys)

 

remember if they didn't have AMD's freeware to take and develop and make better/ lock to their cards only.  then there likey wouldn't be any upgrades like we get in the first place....   look how Intel stagnated and now is being RAPED by Ryzen....

yea i do agree that intel is currently being an idiot when it comes to pricing and products compared to amd. however i feel better with intel than that i do with amd. same goes for gpu's like the vega.