Comparison and Difference

[Baniel01]

Hello all, 

 

This is my first time building a PC and need some help,

 

With some help I have these two builds which are within my budget of a $1000, obviously if I spend less thats great I can put it into other items. 

 

-used mainly for videos games like ‘league of legends’ and ‘smite’. I only ever have 1-3 games I play at any given time so space isn't a huge issue. Along with some productivity. I am not an intensive gamer but I would like to run 60 frames at 1080p. 

-is this a balanced build?/I’m aware there is always some bottleneck but where might be the most severe places?

-where might I improve, or what is not nessassry/downgrable.

-any other suggestions or tips, useful websites. 

 

There are two builds here and I can't decide which is better or is a mix of the two is best!

 

*also I don't know if I need coolers or not and if that is enough of a power supply*

 

-Thank you!

 

[Baniel01]

Thank you

[Happycowdance]

if your budget is 1000 you can max it out with a build like this

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor	$227.43 @ Amazon Canada
Motherboard	ASRock - B450 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard	$88.96 @ Vuugo
Memory	G.Skill - Aegis 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory	$148.99 @ Newegg Canada
Storage	Crucial - MX500 250 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive	$59.99 @ Amazon Canada
Storage	Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	$47.99 @ Newegg Canada
Video Card	PowerColor - Radeon RX 580 8 GB Video Card	$284.99 @ Newegg Canada
Case	Cougar - MX330 ATX Mid Tower Case	$56.95 @ Vuugo
Power Supply	Corsair - CXM 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply	$74.99 @ Amazon Canada
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total (before mail-in rebates)	$1020.29
	Mail-in rebates	-$30.00
	Total	$990.29
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-12-14 00:43 EST-0500

 edit: included wrong gpu

 

Edited December 14, 2018 by Happycowdance

[Brooksie359]

I would personally go with ryzen for future support for the platform. They offer really good upgrade paths and don't keep their older cpus at their msrp long after they are replaced by faster versions. If you look at old i7s they are still the same price while the r7 1700 and 1700x have been seen on crazy sales. 

[Happycowdance]

as for the builds you posted i would recommend going with the bottom one since intel is normally bad for budget builds and the bottom one is much more powerful

 

also why do you have a g processor if you have a discreet gpu

[Cereal5]

You're awfully insistent on getting an answer, huh? We can see that you've started a thread about essentially the same thing 3 times now.

1 minute ago, Happycowdance said:

also why do you have a g processor if you have a discreet gpu

It's an R3 1300X but $30 cheaper.

[Taf the Ghost]

@Baniel01 are you in the States? Do you need anything beyond the system itself? Peripherals all good?

[Happycowdance]

1 minute ago, Cereal5 said:

You're awfully insistent on getting an answer, huh? We can see that you've started a thread about essentially the same thing 3 times now.

It's an R3 1300X but $30 cheaper.

thx for the info

[Baniel01]

8 minutes ago, Taf the Ghost said:

@Baniel01 are you in the States? Do you need anything beyond the system itself? Peripherals all good?

Canada and ya I need a monitor and keyboard!

[Baniel01]

12 minutes ago, Cereal5 said:

You're awfully insistent on getting an answer, huh? We can see that you've started a thread about essentially the same thing 3 times now.

It's an R3 1300X but $30 cheaper.

Sorry I didn’t think they were too similar, I am new to all this and have so many questions I can’t quite find answers too   

[Taf the Ghost]

4 minutes ago, Baniel01 said:

Canada and ya I need a monitor and keyboard!

So, 1000CAD, then? You mostly play esports titles?

[Baniel01]

1 minute ago, Taf the Ghost said:

So, 1000CAD, then? You mostly play esports titles?

yes 1000CAD, and yes mostly esports titles.

 

Thank you

[Cereal5]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD - Ryzen 3 2200G 3.5 GHz Quad-Core Processor	$124.99 @ Canada Computers
Motherboard	Gigabyte - B450M DS3H Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard	$94.99 @ Amazon Canada
Memory	Team - Vulcan 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory	$81.99 @ Newegg Canada
Storage	Kingston - A400 240 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive	$47.99 @ Amazon Canada
Storage	Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	$47.99 @ Newegg Canada
Video Card	Sapphire - Radeon RX 580 8 GB PULSE Video Card	$309.97 @ Amazon Canada
Case	Cooler Master - MasterBox Q300L MicroATX Mini Tower Case	$54.99 @ PC-Canada
Power Supply	Corsair - CXM 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply	$74.99 @ Amazon Canada
Monitor	AOC - i2267Fw 22.0" 1920x1080 60 Hz Monitor	$119.99 @ Memory Express
Keyboard	Redragon - K552 Wired Gaming Keyboard	$40.99 @ Amazon Canada
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$998.88
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-12-14 01:05 EST-0500

If you need to save a few bucks, you can step down to an RX 580 4GB or RX 570. You might have to do that if you need a mouse, but the 570 is still a great card. Both are more than enough to play esports titles at 1080p. You might be able to squeeze in 16GB of RAM also if you drop to a 570, but I think you'll be fine with 8GB. You can always add more later if you so desire.

[Taf the Ghost]

7 minutes ago, Baniel01 said:

yes 1000CAD, and yes mostly esports titles.

 

Thank you

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD - Ryzen 3 2200G 3.5 GHz Quad-Core Processor	$124.99 @ Canada Computers
Motherboard	Gigabyte - B450M DS3H Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard	$94.99 @ Amazon Canada
Memory	Team - Vulcan 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory	$129.99 @ Newegg Canada
Storage	Crucial - MX500 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive	$90.99 @ Amazon Canada
Video Card	MSI - Radeon RX 570 8 GB ARMOR OC Video Card	$194.00 @ Canada Computers
Case	Cooler Master - MasterBox Q300L MicroATX Mini Tower Case	$54.99 @ PC-Canada
Power Supply	Corsair - CX (2017) 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply	$54.99 @ Canada Computers
Monitor	Acer - XF240H 24.0" 1920x1080 144 Hz Monitor	$249.99 @ Canada Computers
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$994.93
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-12-14 01:07 EST-0500

Managed to sneak a 144 Hz display in there.

[Taf the Ghost]

9 minutes ago, Baniel01 said:

yes 1000CAD, and yes mostly esports titles.

 

Thank you

Do you currently have a Keyboard and some other spindle storage you can move over?

[Baniel01]

1 minute ago, Taf the Ghost said:

Do you currently have a Keyboard and some other spindle storage you can move over?

I don't quite understand what you mean buy spindle storage, but I do not have a keyboard 

[Taf the Ghost]

1 minute ago, Baniel01 said:

I don't quite understand what you mean buy spindle storage, but I do not have a keyboard 

"Spindle Storage" = normal hard drive. Is that an ultra-hard 1000CAD? 

[Baniel01]

1 minute ago, Taf the Ghost said:

"Spindle Storage" = normal hard drive. Is that an ultra-hard 1000CAD? 

it isn't a hard 1000CAD (high as 1300CAD) and I currently have no other hard drives. I would like to keep as close to my needs as possible though so I can put the money else where (desk, accessories, monitor etc) but if I need to spend it on the components I will since that is the most important place to put the money. 

[Taf the Ghost]

2 minutes ago, Baniel01 said:

it isn't a hard 1000CAD (high as 1300CAD) and I currently have no other hard drives. I would like to keep as close to my needs as possible though so I can put the money else where (desk, accessories, monitor etc) but if I need to spend it on the components I will since that is the most important place to put the money. 

Give me a sec on the build then.

[Taf the Ghost]

5 minutes ago, Baniel01 said:

it isn't a hard 1000CAD (high as 1300CAD) and I currently have no other hard drives. I would like to keep as close to my needs as possible though so I can put the money else where (desk, accessories, monitor etc) but if I need to spend it on the components I will since that is the most important place to put the money. 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD - Ryzen 3 2200G 3.5 GHz Quad-Core Processor	$124.99 @ Canada Computers
Motherboard	Gigabyte - B450M DS3H Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard	$94.99 @ Amazon Canada
Memory	Team - Vulcan 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory	$129.99 @ Newegg Canada
Storage	Crucial - MX500 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive	$159.99 @ Newegg Canada
Video Card	MSI - Radeon RX 570 8 GB ARMOR OC Video Card	$194.00 @ Canada Computers
Case	Cooler Master - MasterBox Q300L MicroATX Mini Tower Case	$54.99 @ PC-Canada
Power Supply	Corsair - CXM 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply	$74.99 @ Amazon Canada
Monitor	Acer - XF240H 24.0" 1920x1080 144 Hz Monitor	$249.99 @ Canada Computers
Keyboard	Logitech - K120 Wired Standard Keyboard	$40.00
Mouse	Logitech - G203 Prodigy Wired Optical Mouse	$30.00
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$1153.93
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-12-14 01:26 EST-0500

I just put some manual amounts for Keyboard & Mouse. Those are always so personal that I don't really have any suggestions. 

 

The build is pretty straight forward. The Motherboard + Memory + 1 TB SSD + PSU lay the foundation for the system. The CPU & GPU can be upgraded in about a year for probably 400CAD, for a sizable improvement, if needed. (AMD releases new CPU & GPUs in 6-8 months.) Given your games, you really don't.

 

Do you need WiFI? I'd personally go with a bit more expensive motherboard, but I meet the budget the first time with it.

[Baniel01]

5 minutes ago, Taf the Ghost said:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD - Ryzen 3 2200G 3.5 GHz Quad-Core Processor	$124.99 @ Canada Computers
Motherboard	Gigabyte - B450M DS3H Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard	$94.99 @ Amazon Canada
Memory	Team - Vulcan 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory	$129.99 @ Newegg Canada
Storage	Crucial - MX500 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive	$159.99 @ Newegg Canada
Video Card	MSI - Radeon RX 570 8 GB ARMOR OC Video Card	$194.00 @ Canada Computers
Case	Cooler Master - MasterBox Q300L MicroATX Mini Tower Case	$54.99 @ PC-Canada
Power Supply	Corsair - CXM 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply	$74.99 @ Amazon Canada
Monitor	Acer - XF240H 24.0" 1920x1080 144 Hz Monitor	$249.99 @ Canada Computers
Keyboard	Logitech - K120 Wired Standard Keyboard	$40.00
Mouse	Logitech - G203 Prodigy Wired Optical Mouse	$30.00
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$1153.93
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-12-14 01:26 EST-0500

I just put some manual amounts for Keyboard & Mouse. Those are always so personal that I don't really have any suggestions. 

 

The build is pretty straight forward. The Motherboard + Memory + 1 TB SSD + PSU lay the foundation for the system. The CPU & GPU can be upgraded in about a year for probably 400CAD, for a sizable improvement, if needed. (AMD releases new CPU & GPUs in 6-8 months.) Given your games, you really don't.

 

Do you need WiFI? I'd personally go with a bit more expensive motherboard, but I meet the budget the first time with it.

Thank you for your help, I think I will connect it via ethernet cable. Any other suggestions, I would love to hear them

[Taf the Ghost]

1 minute ago, Baniel01 said:

Thank you for your help, I think I will connect it via ethernet cable. Any other suggestions, I would love to hear them

Not really. The foundation of this build is what I listed: good Motherboard, more than enough memory at a good speed, 1 TB SSD (prices have DROPPED in the last 6 months) is more than you'll probably ever need and a good PSU. The CPU & GPU are the easiest upgrades, and we have generational changes in a couple of months. As a result, the upgrade path gets really easy for some sizable improvements, when you need it.

 

The Monitor part is up to you. The build has a 144 Hz FreeSync display. If you want to drop to 60/75 Hz with a better Panel, I can poke through for some suggestions that direction. With the budget, we can probably squeeze in a 1440p monitor without too much issue. Depends how much space you have & what you'd prefer.

[Baniel01]

Thank you for your help!