I need your help.

[charbel1011]

So right now my gaming pc is connected to wifi. And the wifi aint that great when playing competitivly online. Even though sometimes i dont see lag or connection error or etc. im sure it's a disadvantage to use it over the ethernet. Iv been using ethernet my whole life but im forced to use wifi now since i moved to my uncles house. The situation right now is i have the plug for the modem next to my pc. But the modem is connected in the living room to a small router. I tried to move the modem to my room once and my uncle got pissed because he lost connection to his basement. What are my options in here? Can i buy another modem and connect it in my room. Or what are other options. It's really miserable to use wifi for games. My gaming performance is going downhill.

[Slottr]

Powerline adapters

[charbel1011]

2 minutes ago, Slottr said:

Powerline adapters

Powerline adapters can be a hit or miss. And i heads depends on the house circuit as well. 

[mynameisjuan]

3 minutes ago, charbel1011 said:

Powerline adapters can be a hit or miss. And i heads depends on the house circuit as well. 

Unless you run a cat5 powerline really is your best bet, really your only choice. You cannot use two modems.

[Donut417]

9 minutes ago, charbel1011 said:

Can i buy another modem and connect it in my room

Only if you plan on buying another internet plan. Even then having two modems for internet at the same address is hit or miss with most ISPs. The only time I know its ok is if one Modem is for data and the other is used for digital voice service only. Want to clarify that what I stated here is for Cable Internet (Coax). 

 

If you have coax at both locations, where the router/modem is and at your PC, you can try Moca, though Moca adapters are kinda expensive. 

[charbel1011]

2 minutes ago, Donut417 said:

Only if you plan on buying another internet plan. Even then having two modems for internet at the same address is hit or miss with most ISPs. The only time I know its ok is if one Modem is for data and the other is used for digital voice service only. Want to clarify that what I stated here is for Cable Internet (Coax). 

 

If you have coax at both locations, where the router/modem is and at your PC, you can try Moca, though Moca adapters are kinda expensive. 

I dont mind the money. What's the moca? Is it good? I never heard of them.

[Donut417]

6 minutes ago, charbel1011 said:

I dont mind the money. What's the moca? Is it good? I never heard of them.

It uses the Upper bands on the coax that cable co's dont use. Moca 2.0 Unbonded adapters are rated for 400 Mbps and Bonded adapters are rated for 800 Mbps but they are only half duplex.

 

The only real catch to moca is this

1) You cant use these on the same coax used by Satellite TV providers (DirecTV has their own Moca adapters but only rated for 100 Mbps) 

2) You need a moca filter on the main cable line entering you home IF your using the Coax with a cable provider. In some cases you provider might install one if you have whole home DVR. 

3) You need good coax, so like RG6. 

 

More info can be found here: http://www.mocalliance.org/ 

[charbel1011]

10 minutes ago, Donut417 said:

It uses the Upper bands on the coax that cable co's dont use. Moca 2.0 Unbonded adapters are rated for 400 Mbps and Bonded adapters are rated for 800 Mbps but they are only half duplex.

 

The only real catch to moca is this

1) You cant use these on the same coax used by Satellite TV providers (DirecTV has their own Moca adapters but only rated for 100 Mbps) 

2) You need a moca filter on the main cable line entering you home IF your using the Coax with a cable provider. In some cases you provider might install one if you have whole home DVR. 

3) You need good coax, so like RG6. 

 

More info can be found here: http://www.mocalliance.org/ 

So i need someone to install a filter on my main thing if i wanna have a moca?

[Donut417]

1 minute ago, charbel1011 said:

So i need someone to install a filter on my main thing if i wanna have a moca?

It screws on the coax, needs to be placed before the first splitter coming in from the cable co. If you check the side of the house, there should be a demark box, if you can get in to it, you should be able to install the filter there. 

[charbel1011]

1 minute ago, Donut417 said:

It screws on the coax, needs to be placed before the first splitter coming in from the cable co. If you check the side of the house, there should be a demark box, if you can get in to it, you should be able to install the filter there. 

So basically it's a hasstle.

[Donut417]

Just now, charbel1011 said:

So basically it's a hasstle.

Well you options are 

 

WiFi (Shitty) 

Power line (Less shitty but still shitty)

Moca (Requires a little knowledge of how coax is run) 

 

Personally Ive gone in to my Demark a lot. I check the cables periodically to ensure they are tight, as I live next to the railroad and an express way, so they sometimes come loose. 

 

[charbel1011]

20 minutes ago, Donut417 said:

Well you options are 

 

WiFi (Shitty) 

Power line (Less shitty but still shitty)

Moca (Requires a little knowledge of how coax is run) 

 

Personally Ive gone in to my Demark a lot. I check the cables periodically to ensure they are tight, as I live next to the railroad and an express way, so they sometimes come loose. 

 

What if i put the modemnin my room and buy range extender.

[Livinloud]

range extender may help or just get a better wifi router if running a cable is not fesiable.

 

[Donut417]

13 minutes ago, charbel1011 said:

What if i put the modemnin my room and buy range extender.

Range extenders are garbage even on the best days. 

[charbel1011]

40 minutes ago, Donut417 said:

Range extenders are garbage even on the best days. 

Okay i called comcast and they are going to install a moca filter for free. what next?

[Donut417]

4 minutes ago, charbel1011 said:

Okay i called comcast and they are going to install a moca filter for free. what next?

Some might suggest getting moca compatible splitters but I heard that normal splitters can work just fine. You just buy a pair of adapters. One connects to the modem/router the next will connect to your PC. Then you will have a wired connection and not have to worry about WiFI. Also, you can have up to 16 moca devices on a network. So if there are other devices you need connected, you can just add more adapters. Just make sure you get Moca 2.0 adapters or above, I think ActionTek is one of the few or only manufactures of Moca adapters for retail. 

 

Im honestly surprised that a Comcast rep knew what a Moca filter was. Been with Comcast for over 10 years and I can say they aint the sharpest tools in the shed if you know what I mean. 

[charbel1011]

1 minute ago, Donut417 said:

Some might suggest getting moca compatible splitters but I heard that normal splitters can work just fine. You just buy a pair of adapters. One connects to the modem/router the next will connect to your PC. Then you will have a wired connection and not have to worry about WiFI. Also, you can have up to 16 moca devices on a network. So if there are other devices you need connected, you can just add more adapters. Just make sure you get Moca 2.0 adapters or above, I think ActionTek is one of the few or only manufactures of Moca adapters for retail. 

 

Im honestly surprised that a Comcast rep knew what a Moca filter was. Been with Comcast for over 10 years and I can say they aint the sharpest tools in the shed if you know what I mean. 

Wait so i have to move the modem from the living room to my bedroom? I don't wanna move it from there and that's the main point

[Donut417]

1 minute ago, charbel1011 said:

Wait so i have to move the modem from the living room to my bedroom? I don't wanna move it from there and that's the main point

No you hook an adapter to the modem and put another adapter in your room. The adapters will communicate at 1 Ghz to 1.5 Ghz on the same wire Comcast uses. 

[charbel1011]

Just now, Donut417 said:

No you hook an adapter to the modem and put another adapter in your room. 

So i don't have to move anything. got it! do you recommend anything from amazon? those maybe ?https://www.amazon.com/Actiontec-Bonded-Ethernet-Adapter-ECB6200K02/dp/B013J7O3X0

[Donut417]

1 minute ago, charbel1011 said:

So i don't have to move anything. got it! do you recommend anything from amazon? those maybe ?https://www.amazon.com/Actiontec-Bonded-Ethernet-Adapter-ECB6200K02/dp/B013J7O3X0

Like I said. ActionTec is like the ONLY company that does moca hardware. Moca never took off as the previous gen Moca adapters did not coexist with Cable Providers. The biggest users of Moca is the Cable Companies and Verizon FIOS, so no companies never really got in to doing retail gear. 

[charbel1011]

1 minute ago, Donut417 said:

Like I said. ActionTec is like the ONLY company that does moca hardware. Moca never took off as the previous gen Moca adapters did not coexist with Cable Providers. The biggest users of Moca is the Cable Companies and Verizon FIOS, so no companies never really got in to doing retail gear. 

How i am going to install the adapters i see the adapters has 2 plugs one says coax in and one says tv so how?

[Donut417]

2 minutes ago, charbel1011 said:

How i am going to install the adapters i see the adapters has 2 plugs one says coax in and one says tv so how?

Thats a good question. See where my modem was previously before I managed to move it into my room I had two coax connections. I think you can put the adapter between the wall and the modem as it use the TV port on the adapter as it would have to support two way communication for cable boxes. 

[charbel1011]

7 minutes ago, Donut417 said:

Thats a good question. See where my modem was previously before I managed to move it into my room I had two coax connections. I think you can put the adapter between the wall and the modem as it use the TV port on the adapter as it would have to support two way communication for cable boxes. 

So the first adapter goes next to my modem. And the second one goes to my room? But i need an extra coax cable no? For my room one.

[Donut417]

13 minutes ago, charbel1011 said:

How i am going to install the adapters i see the adapters has 2 plugs one says coax in and one says tv so how?

https://www.snbforums.com/threads/does-a-moca-adapter-need-a-splitter-if-sharing-with-a-cable-modem.33752/

 

This post suggests that it should work. My only concern is, the cable modem needs the best siganl possible, splitting too many times WILL cause issues. I know this from personal experience. Im guessing that inside that Bonded adapter there is a two way splitter which cuts 3.5dB from the signal or cuts it in half. This Will affect the siganl coming in to your modem, that that being said, Comcast should have no more than a Two way splitter between you can the wiring out on the poles. If your signals are good then I would say you can safely split it again and not have any issues. 

 

You can check you signals by going to 192.168.1.100 in a web browser. Then just compare with these: https://www.dslreports.com/faq/16085. Just keep in mind that between Summer and Winter you signals will change. Also, you signals can change as much as 3dB in a signal day. So if your on the edge of acceptable it could push you over. 

 

 

 

1 minute ago, charbel1011 said:

But i need an extra coax cable no? For my room one.

Well if you dont have coax install to your room then this wont work. Most houses Ive been in have coax install in the walls to each bedroom and to the living room. If thats not the case then this is a waste of money. 

[charbel1011]

10 minutes ago, Donut417 said:

https://www.snbforums.com/threads/does-a-moca-adapter-need-a-splitter-if-sharing-with-a-cable-modem.33752/

 

This post suggests that it should work. My only concern is, the cable modem needs the best siganl possible, splitting too many times WILL cause issues. I know this from personal experience. Im guessing that inside that Bonded adapter there is a two way splitter which cuts 3.5dB from the signal or cuts it in half. This Will affect the siganl coming in to your modem, that that being said, Comcast should have no more than a Two way splitter between you can the wiring out on the poles. If your signals are good then I would say you can safely split it again and not have any issues. 

 

You can check you signals by going to 192.168.1.100 in a web browser. Then just compare with these: https://www.dslreports.com/faq/16085. Just keep in mind that between Summer and Winter you signals will change. Also, you signals can change as much as 3dB in a signal day. So if your on the edge of acceptable it could push you over. 

 

 

 

Well if you dont have coax install to your room then this wont work. Most houses Ive been in have coax install in the walls to each bedroom and to the living room. If thats not the case then this is a waste of money. 

I do have a coax plug

next to my pc. But what i was saying is i dont need a coax cable thaT goes from the moca filter to coax plug? In my bedroom.