Can you get a replacement HDD for slow peformance?

[WhatComesAround]

Hey dudes,

So basically I have switched to a Ryzen 2700X quite recently but I have noticed that some micro stuttering has not gone away. Since I have changed pretty much everything apart for my drives recently I think it may be the drives. So my question is. How do I check if a hard drive is working below standard and can I get it replaced since it is still under warranty?

[TH3R34P3R]

try https://www.userbenchmark.com/ will give you relative drive performance to the rest of the people with the same drives. 

[WhatComesAround]

1 minute ago, TH3R34P3R said:

try https://www.userbenchmark.com/ will give you relative drive performance to the rest of the people with the same drives. 

alright

 

[Spotty]

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- RAM - 1 X 8GB HyperX Fury Forgot What Speed, as the RAM component of the build

If that's in the Ryzen 2700x system, then that's the reason for your stutter.

As for your HDD, if you want to check its health you can view its SMART status in programs such as CrystalDiskInfo64. If it's a Seagate HDD you can use Seatools to check its SMART status and run a few basic checks.

Alternatively you can use command with

chkdsk C: /r

(With C:\ being the drive letter of whichever drive you want to check)

[TH3R34P3R]

i think that the signature build is different... as that would have to be DDR3 ram cause 2000 series CPU so it isnt ryzen compatable. 

[WhatComesAround]

1 minute ago, Spotty said:

If that's in the Ryzen 2700x system, then that's the reason for your stutter.

As for your HDD, if you want to check its health you can view its SMART status in programs such as CrystalDiskInfo64. If it's a Seagate HDD you can use Seatools to check its SMART status and run a few basic checks.

Alternatively you can use command with

chkdsk C: /r

(With C:\ being the drive letter of whichever drive you want to check)

Yea my signature build hasn't been changed in years

[WhatComesAround]

2 minutes ago, Spotty said:

If that's in the Ryzen 2700x system, then that's the reason for your stutter.

As for your HDD, if you want to check its health you can view its SMART status in programs such as CrystalDiskInfo64. If it's a Seagate HDD you can use Seatools to check its SMART status and run a few basic checks.

Alternatively you can use command with

chkdsk C: /r

(With C:\ being the drive letter of whichever drive you want to check)

 

1 minute ago, TH3R34P3R said:

i think that the signature build is different... as that would have to be DDR3 ram cause 2000 series CPU so it isnt ryzen compatable. 

https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/12501907

here is my run, let me know what you think

[TH3R34P3R]

1 minute ago, WhatComesAround said:

 

https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/12501907

here is my run, let me know what you think

do you have multiple ram sticks or just one... 

[Spotty]

3 minutes ago, WhatComesAround said:

Yea my signature build hasn't been changed in years

Do you have a full list of your system parts? Might help me identify any areas of concern that could be causing your stutter.

 

 

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1 of 4 slots used

8GB DIMM DDR4 3200 MHz clocked @ 1600 MHz

Yeah, same problem. You're running only single stick of memory without dual channel, and it's only 8GB. That will cause performance issues in games, and especially in RAM heavy games like GTA V will definitely cause stutters.

Edited November 29, 2018 by Spotty
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[WhatComesAround]

Just now, TH3R34P3R said:

do you have multiple ram sticks or just one... 

Just one, going to get another one soon. Does that make that big of a difference?

[WhatComesAround]

Just now, Spotty said:

Do you have a full list of your system parts? Might help me identify any areas of concern that could be causing your stutter.

 

 

Yeah, same problem. You're running only single channel memory with only 8GB. That will cause performance issues in games, and especially in RAM heavy games like GTA V will definitely cause stutters.

AHAHAHAHH, that exactly what I got in gta v. XD No wonder. Ok so yea, second stick on it's way my dude.

[TH3R34P3R]

yes, as ryzen loves lots of fast ram. and you should pick up an SSD... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0781Z7Y3S/?tag=pcpapi-20 cheap 500gb ssd by samsung. you'll see an incredible speed increase. not stuttering maybe but speed will jump. 

[WhatComesAround]

1 minute ago, TH3R34P3R said:

yes, as ryzen loves lots of fast ram. and you should pick up an SSD... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0781Z7Y3S/?tag=pcpapi-20 cheap 500gb ssd by samsung. you'll see an incredible speed increase. not stuttering maybe but speed will jump. 

What do you mean by speed?

[TH3R34P3R]

1 minute ago, WhatComesAround said:

What do you mean by speed?

just general speed. ALSO REPORT THAT PIC

 

[Spotty]

7 minutes ago, WhatComesAround said:

Just one, going to get another one soon. Does that make that big of a difference?

Yes. Ryzen pretty much needs to be running dual channel. Also, 8GB can cause performance issues in games that rely on heavy amounts of RAM, such as GTA V.

 

7 minutes ago, WhatComesAround said:

AHAHAHAHH, that exactly what I got in gta v. XD No wonder. Ok so yea, second stick on it's way my dude.

From my testing on an Intel Platform, running a single stick of 8GB of RAM will see about a 10% average FPS drop in GTA V, but also a huge increase in loading times and also stutters while playing. With Ryzen, which is far more sensitive to RAM performance than Intel platforms, you will see even worse performance when running a single stick!

 

Scroll down to the GTA V results. TLDR; Get another 8GB stick to give you 16GB (2x8GB). If possible get another stick the same as the one you already have, or with the same frequency and timings. If you mix RAM then both sticks will perform at the speed of the slowest stick.

 

4 minutes ago, WhatComesAround said:

What do you mean by speed?

Responsiveness of the system. So if you open a program that is installed on the SSD, it will open much faster. Chrome will open instantly instead of being a second or two delay after clicking on the icon. Windows will boot in 20 seconds instead of 2 minutes. The system will feel more responsive and faster in general... You'll know straight away once you install the OS on to an SSD and see the difference for yourself, you will wonder how you went all those years without it

[WhatComesAround]

Just now, TH3R34P3R said:

just general speed. ALSO REPORT THAT PIC

 

Yea of course I did XD. Will an SSD increase FPS? I have noticed that some YT videos featuring similar components to mine get higher FPS.

[Spotty]

2 minutes ago, WhatComesAround said:

Yea of course I did XD. Will an SSD increase FPS? I have noticed that some YT videos featuring similar components to mine get higher FPS.

Nope, SSD will NOT increase FPS. It will help a little bit with the loading times of GTA V (actually loading in to the game) if the game is installed on the SSD, but you will want to install your Operating System (Windows) on to the SSD to get the best benefit from it, and then if there's any room left you can install games on it. (GTA V is about 80GB!)

[TH3R34P3R]

it should increase speed and NOT FPS increase. but you need that ram for better FPS, and maybe a better gpu too. 

 

but this was my build that i sold to a friend: https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/11946219  

[WhatComesAround]

2 minutes ago, Spotty said:

Yes. Ryzen pretty much needs to be running dual channel. Also, 8GB can cause performance issues in games that rely on heavy amounts of RAM, such as GTA V.

 

From my testing on an Intel Platform, running a single stick of 8GB of RAM will see about a 10% average FPS drop in GTA V, but also a huge increase in loading times and also stutters while playing. With Ryzen, which is far more sensitive to RAM performance than Intel platforms, you will see even worse performance when running a single stick!

 

Scroll down to the GTA V results. TLDR; Get another 8GB stick to give you 16GB (2x8GB). If possible get another stick the same as the one you already have, or with the same frequency and timings. If you mix RAM then both sticks will perform at the speed of the slowest stick.

 

Responsiveness of the system. So if you open a program that is installed on the SSD, it will open much faster. Chrome will open instantly instead of being a second or two delay after clicking on the icon. Windows will boot in 20 seconds instead of 2 minutes. The system will feel more responsive and faster in general... You'll know straight away once you install the OS on to an SSD and see the difference for yourself, you will wonder how you went all those years without it

Ahh right, that's where the FPS is being lost XD. Alright then. It's settled.

[TH3R34P3R]

remember, try to get a matching ram stick. 

[WhatComesAround]

Just now, TH3R34P3R said:

remember, try to get a matching ram stick. 

Same exact ram stick 

[Spotty]

1 minute ago, WhatComesAround said:

Ahh right, that's where the FPS is being lost XD. Alright then. It's settled.

The RAM is likely what's causing stutters where you either freeze for one or two frames (kind of hard to notice, but it is annoying), as well as periods where your FPS will tank going from, for example, a steady 60fps down to 40fps for a few seconds.

 

GTX 1050ti should be fine if you're playing at 1080p 60fps. If you struggle to maintain 60fps after you get your other stick of RAM, dial a few settings down to medium/high. No need to run Ultra.

[WhatComesAround]

4 minutes ago, Spotty said:

The RAM is likely what's causing stutters where you either freeze for one or two frames (kind of hard to notice, but it is annoying), as well as periods where your FPS will tank going from, for example, a steady 60fps down to 40fps for a few seconds.

 

GTX 1050ti should be fine if you're playing at 1080p 60fps. If you struggle to maintain 60fps after you get your other stick of RAM, dial a few settings down to medium/high. No need to run Ultra.

That is precisely what is going on. Thanks! Here's what I am planning on getting:

HYPERX PREDATOR RGB 8GB DDR4 3200MHz GAMING 1G x 64-Bit CL16 288-Pin DIMM (The exact same ram stick as the one I have, from the same seller too)

ADATA XPG SX8200 PRO M.2 512GB SSD

and maybe a new monitor, like the lenovo 1440p monitor Edit: Because I currently have a crappy 900p monitor from acer

[TH3R34P3R]

4 minutes ago, WhatComesAround said:

That is precisely what is going on. Thanks! Here's what I am planning on getting:

HYPERX PREDATOR RGB 8GB DDR4 3200MHz GAMING 1G x 64-Bit CL16 288-Pin DIMM (The exact same ram stick as the one I have, from the same seller too)

ADATA XPG SX8200 PRO M.2 512GB SSD

and maybe a new monitor, like the lenovo 1440p monitor Edit: Because I currently have a crappy 900p monitor from acer

this monitor will tank that GPU you have for games. period. and the m.2 drive will give a nice general performance increase. you will enjoy it. 

[Spotty]

Just now, WhatComesAround said:

That is precisely what is going on. Thanks! Here's what I am planning on getting:

HYPERX PREDATOR RGB 8GB DDR4 3200MHz GAMING 1G x 64-Bit CL16 288-Pin DIMM (The exact same ram stick as the one I have, from the same seller too)

ADATA XPG SX8200 PRO M.2 512GB SSD

and maybe a new monitor, like the lenovo 1440p monitor

The RAM will be good if it's a matching stick, and it's 3200MHz as well so it's fast which will be good for Ryzen. That should eliminate the stutters you're getting.

How much for that SSD? You probably don't need a NVMe SSD. Regular SATA based SSD will be fine. The difference is mainly going from a HDD to any SSD, beyond that isn't much difference unless you're doing specific tasks that can benefit from it... A Samsung 860 evo 500GB is about $75 USD at the moment and will be good for you.
500GB is a good size though if you can afford it, as you will be able to install a few games on it as well as the operating system.

 

Don't bother updating your monitor just yet, your current GPU (1050ti) isn't powerful enough to properly run a 1440p display in games. Stick with whatever monitor you have for now.