Buying a used computer

[gabrielgames]

Im going to be buying my first real gaming PC on December 1st! but its used which im ok with because it hasn't been used for mining! So my main concern is how can i tell if im getting the actual components they promised he said that he would run CPUZ and GPUZ and superposition benchmark but im wondering if you can alter them to show fake components. Any tips to make sure i am getting the Ryzen 7 1800x and asus GTX 1070 i was promised? 

[LukeSavenije]

Userbenchmark, pictures, cpuz and gpuz are for that use the best

[Eastman51]

How much are you going to be paying for it? 

He could photoshop the results, but thats a lot of effort. Plus, quick google searches can confirm how legit the results are.

[gabrielgames]

2 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

Userbenchmark, pictures, cpuz and gpuz are for that use the best

if they changed it in the bios wouldnt CPUZ change as well?

[Dedayog]

4 minutes ago, gabrielgames said:

Im going to be buying my first real gaming PC on December 1st! but its used which im ok with because it hasn't been used for mining! So my main concern is how can i tell if im getting the actual components they promised he said that he would run CPUZ and GPUZ and superposition benchmark but im wondering if you can alter them to show fake components. Any tips to make sure i am getting the Ryzen 7 1800x and asus GTX 1070 i was promised? 

He can't fake them while they're running, he could only photoshop screen shots of them.

 

Well, he COULD fake them when running but then he'd be a much much better coder than would be selling used PC's to people.  

 

 

[LukeSavenije]

Gpuz is pretty good at guessing what chip it actually is. Not sure about cpuz tho

[gabrielgames]

1 minute ago, Eastman51 said:

How much are you going to be paying for it? 

He could photoshop the results, but thats a lot of effort. Plus, quick google searches can confirm how legit the results are.

ill be visiting his home so he will run them infront of me.. im paying 1220 its that expensive becuase for some reason it has a 1200w psu in it

[gabrielgames]

Just now, jstudrawa said:

He can't fake them while they're running, he could only photoshop screen shots of them.

 

Well, he COULD fake them when running but then he'd be a much much better coder than would be selling used PC's to people.  

 

 

there are video tutorials online on how to do it though

[Dedayog]

Just now, gabrielgames said:

there are video tutorials online on how to do it though

Could you do it?

[gabrielgames]

if he seems sketchy ill just leave it but i really am craving to play games at more than 10-13 fps lol

[gabrielgames]

1 minute ago, jstudrawa said:

Could you do it?

judging by the video it seems really easy lol  

 

[Dedayog]

Just now, gabrielgames said:

judging by the video it seems really easy lol  

 

Have him show you the Bios and set all defaults.  This will show you what's really here.

 

Seriously tho, run the CPUZ and then run a game with a FPS counter on.  You're pre-worrying.  If you STILL have an issue, make him take the cooler off the CPU and show you the chip.  The GPU should be easily identifiable.  GO online and get pics of the make and model to compare.

[gabrielgames]

5 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

Gpuz is pretty good at guessing what chip it actually is. Not sure about cpuz tho

yeah welp wish me luck lol i might just have to ask him to open it up and take off the cooler to see what cpu it is I do know that that cpu should get a score of around 3K in that benchmark

[Eastman51]

1 minute ago, gabrielgames said:

ill be visiting his home so he will run them infront of me.. im paying 1220 its that expensive becuase for some reason it has a 1200w psu in it

If you're really sketched out about it, google search on your phone. And you could ask to take the system apart (just CPU and GPU) to look at the CPU itself and look for the model number on the GPU.

[Fasauceome]

Just now, Eastman51 said:

If you're really sketched out about it, google search on your phone. And you could ask to take the system apart (just CPU and GPU) to look at the CPU itself and look for the model number on the GPU.

If I were selling it would really annoy me if the buyer asked that. You can see inside and if the graphics card, motherboard, ram, and power supply are all real, and CPUz shows the correct CPU name, I'd have a lot of confidence that the CPU was legit. Also, you can open task manager and "show logical processors" to see how many cores/threads a CPU has.

[gabrielgames]

1 minute ago, jstudrawa said:

Have him show you the Bios and set all defaults.  This will show you what's really here.

 

Seriously tho, run the CPUZ and then run a game with a FPS counter on.  You're pre-worrying.  If you STILL have an issue, make him take the cooler off the CPU and show you the chip.  The GPU should be easily identifiable.  GO online and get pics of the make and model to compare.

if you change it in a way the bios will say the fake CPU but yes the game idea is smart, the gpu is gonna be hard becuase its those white asus gpus that look exactly like the 1070s. i mean canadians dont lie right...... right? Thanks for the advice if he wont let me take off the cooler ill know its a scam thanks man 

[gabrielgames]

Just now, fasauceome said:

If I were selling it would really annoy me if the buyer asked that. You can see inside and if the graphics card, motherboard, ram, and power supply are all real, and CPUz shows the correct CPU name, I'd have a lot of confidence that the CPU was legit. Also, you can open task manager and "show logical processors" to see how many cores/threads a CPU has.

the thing is the ryzen 7 1700 has the same core count as the 7 1800x i guess i should watch clock speeds?

[Eastman51]

Just now, fasauceome said:

If I were selling it would really annoy me if the buyer asked that. You can see inside and if the graphics card, motherboard, ram, and power supply are all real, and CPUz shows the correct CPU name, I'd have a lot of confidence that the CPU was legit. Also, you can open task manager and "show logical processors" to see how many cores/threads a CPU has.

I would be annoyed too, but if you don't want to lose a customer....

If you were going far enough to get CPUz to report false info, you could probably get Task Manager to do the same. Not really sure how that stuff works, but if the guy is going to the seller's location I'd have confidence that the guy wouldn't actually do any of that. I'd just want to get my $$ and get the buyer out asap

[gabrielgames]

4 minutes ago, Eastman51 said:

If you're really sketched out about it, google search on your phone. And you could ask to take the system apart (just CPU and GPU) to look at the CPU itself and look for the model number on the GPU.

Ok check the stickers with the model numbers thank you man noted!

[Eastman51]

1 minute ago, gabrielgames said:

Ok check the stickers with the model numbers thank you man noted!

Yea, most GPUs have a sticker that will have the model number on them. The 1070 model number is GP104, I believe. If the GPU has a backplate, it may be hard to see the sticker though

[gabrielgames]

Thanks all i really appreciate it just acknowledge ive worked really hard and long to get a pc i just dont want to get scammed out of my money and get half the power i payed for thats why im asking these questions!

[SupaKomputa]

For CPU: reset bios to default it will expose the real clock speed.

For GPU: Open the heatsink, rub the main chip until you can see the markings. For 1070 you should see a clear GP104 written there.

[gabrielgames]

Just now, SupaKomputa said:

For CPU: reset bios to default it will expose the real clock speed.

For GPU: Open the heatsink, rub the main chip until you can see the markings. For 1070 you should see a clear GP104 written there.

I would be so scared to open the gpu im so clumsy i almost broke an ssd while pluging it in.... pls no judge me i never said this XD

[SupaKomputa]

ok then no problem, just adding an answer what was post previously.

When still in doubt, that's the final way to answer your question.

Even the fake hacked gpu maker cannot change the markings.

That's where you know its legit.