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5 minutes ago, Catsrules said:

I have been looking at some of the LGA2066 motherboards and I have notice that almost none of them have any video ports of them (HDMI DisplayPort), but they still say they support onboard video. (Guessing over the thunderbolt port?) That is kind of unfortunate. Sure most of us would probably want an video card anyways, but it was nice to have onboard video option even if you have a video card.   

 

Is there a reason for this change?
 

the CPU doesn't have on-board graphics AFAIK.  so next to no motherboard should have video outs.

 

That said they had that one CPU that was basically a 7700K (or whatever it was) but on that socket, and so it DID have the GPU on the CPU package, and the video outs COULD be used in that one specific case.

 

I highly recommend NOT doing that at all.

I have been looking at some of the LGA2066 motherboards and I have notice that almost none of them have any video ports of them (HDMI DisplayPort), but they still say they support onboard video. (Guessing over the thunderbolt port?) That is kind of unfortunate. Sure most of us would probably want an video card anyways, but it was nice to have onboard video option even if you have a video card.   

 

Is there a reason for this change?
 

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High End Desktop Platform doesn't have integrated graphics.

 

They kind of expect someone people who is spending that kind of money on that kind of hardware to be buying a discrete graphics card, since they're probably making a workstation computer.

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5 minutes ago, Catsrules said:

I have been looking at some of the LGA2066 motherboards and I have notice that almost none of them have any video ports of them (HDMI DisplayPort), but they still say they support onboard video. (Guessing over the thunderbolt port?) That is kind of unfortunate. Sure most of us would probably want an video card anyways, but it was nice to have onboard video option even if you have a video card.   

 

Is there a reason for this change?
 

the CPU doesn't have on-board graphics AFAIK.  so next to no motherboard should have video outs.

 

That said they had that one CPU that was basically a 7700K (or whatever it was) but on that socket, and so it DID have the GPU on the CPU package, and the video outs COULD be used in that one specific case.

 

I highly recommend NOT doing that at all.

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1 minute ago, MedievalMatt said:

the CPU doesn't have on-board graphics AFAIK.  so next to no motherboard should have video outs.

 

That said they had that one CPU that was basically a 7700K (or whatever it was) but on that socket, and so it DID have the GPU on the CPU package, and the video outs COULD be used in that one specific case.

 

I highly recommend NOT doing that at all.

 

 

2 minutes ago, Tokeegee said:

High End Desktop Platform doesn't have integrated graphics.

 

They kind of expect someone people who are spending that kind of money on that kind of hardware to be buying a discrete graphics card, since they're probably making a workstation computer.

Ahh so the CPUs themselfs don't have the integrated graphics. That make sense why the motherboards don't have it.

Thanks.

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The LGA 2066 (X299 & C422) socket is considered as 'prosumer' so they expect someone that is investing in either chipsets to have a dedicated GPU. 

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10 minutes ago, MedievalMatt said:

the CPU doesn't have on-board graphics AFAIK.  so next to no motherboard should have video outs.

 

That said they had that one CPU that was basically a 7700K (or whatever it was) but on that socket, and so it DID have the GPU on the CPU package, and the video outs COULD be used in that one specific case.

 

I highly recommend NOT doing that at all.

the Kaby Lake X CPUs you're talking about? No the iGPU doesnt exist there either. Intel removed them when transplanting 7600k / 7700k over to the bigger socket.

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1 minute ago, Jurrunio said:

the Kaby Lake X CPUs you're talking about? No the iGPU doesnt exist there either. Intel removed them when transplanting 7600k / 7700k over to the bigger socket.

well, even more reason to question Intel's sanity when doing that.  I just looked it up and there are i5s on 2066.... what the actual fuck Intel.

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3 minutes ago, MedievalMatt said:

well, even more reason to question Intel's sanity when doing that.  I just looked it up and there are i5s on 2066.... what the actual fuck Intel.

there's even i3-7360x proposed... Yes a dual core 4 thread CPU, as if 7350k for $180 MSRP isnt stupid enough.

 

They do overclock memory better, but we're talking extreme overclocking. Completely useless to 99.99% of people buying a PC

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Just now, Jurrunio said:

there's even i3-7360x proposed... Yes a dual core 4 thread CPU, as if 7350k for $180 MSRP isnt stupid enough.

 

They do overclock memory better, but we're talking extreme overclocking. Completely useless to 99.99% of people buying a PC

I find it alarming they released at least 5 SKUs of that type.  who buys a $300+ motherboard and a sub $200 CPU.  that ratio seems a bit off, especially considering half the features of said fancy board are useless.

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1 minute ago, MedievalMatt said:

I find it alarming they released at least 5 SKUs of that type.  who buys a $300+ motherboard and a sub $200 CPU.  that ratio seems a bit off, especially considering half the features of said fancy board are useless.

there's only 2 CPUs of that released. 7800X and 7820X did came much earlier than 8700k and 9900k and have more PCIe lanes.

 

eh, Kaby Lake is a hated name, that's for sure.

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