Windows 10 can't be updated with Sandy Bridge or Haswell based CPU (for serval systems?)

[gabbel]

I got a strange issue, which I tried to solve for months now and where I got no hope left for a permanent solution.

I don't get it, why it's still imposible to do Major Windows 10 Updates without a "freeze", followed by boot looping for serval Haswell or Sandybridge based Systems.

 

Here's what i expirienced with the following combination.

A budget PC, OEM by Asus, with a "h81m-a" board and a "i7-4770s" still can't do the update (from Windows 7 or windows 10 first release to April 2018 or second "October" November release), even if the latest official "BIOS" is in place.

BIOS manipulations, like a CPU microcode which I applied to the different partitions within the UEFI's (GPT Based) "BIOS" file system (Check "FIT Table" Screenshot) have no effect either.

 

I'm not all alone with this issue (but I don't own a "G3258" CPU).

For reference one of many links: Intel forum about H81 and G3258

 

I suspect that there exists a general problem with all "Intel H81" based systems, but I can't confirm it.

But maybe this could be a topic for Linus to investigate.

 

Because so far "team blue" never gave a clear answer to this issue.

[Raudi_]

Hmmm, I know at least on z87 and z97 I had no issues doing major windows 10 updates. *currently on z87*

[porina]

Can't say I have any problems with Win10 updates on my H81 chipset Haswell system. As above, it is an Asus H81M-Plus. The bios is current, but it is a few years old so wont have more recent fixes in it. This system originally had Win7 on it, which I used the free update to Win10, and have applied all updates since then to 1803. It hasn't had 1809 pushed to it yet. CPU is i3-4150T, not that it should make any difference.

[gabbel]

Thanks for your comment, but it does not solve the riddle.
It seems that just some chipsets got this issue and that is's linked to "Turbo Boost".

[jonrosalia]

was literally just updating and playing fallout on my i5 4210m in my XPS 1820 and it had to go through all the updates since I only break it out every now and then It had quite a few wonder what's up that's disconcerting to me I like this system for mobile old school gaming. 

[porina]

1 minute ago, gabbel said:

It seems that just some chipsets got this issue and that is's linked to "Turbo Boost".

If you suspect it is related to turbo, try disabling it? I just think, just because you and some others have a problem that appears to have some common parts, do we have proof it is due to those parts?

[gabbel]

3 minutes ago, porina said:

Can't say I have any problems with Win10 updates on my H81 chipset Haswell system. As above, it is an Asus H81M-Plus. The bios is current, but it is a few years old so wont have more recent fixes in it. This system originally had Win7 on it, which I used the free update to Win10, and have applied all updates since then to 1803. It hasn't had 1809 pushed to it yet. CPU is i3-4150T, not that it should make any difference.

Thanks for your comment, which is great.
I also took a look into the "H81M-Plus" BIOS file and it's got the same CPU microcode Updates like the latest BIOS for the "H81M-A".

If anybody got an "H81" with "i7-4770s" it would be very interresting to know if you had issues with Windows 10 updates.

[gabbel]

3 minutes ago, porina said:

If you suspect it is related to turbo, try disabling it? I just think, just because you and some others have a problem that appears to have some common parts, do we have proof it is due to those parts?

I already tried this, I also tried to disable different "C" power states, I did a full setup with only one core activated and much more, but still no luck.

[gabbel]

I compared the two CPU's

i3-4150 vs i7-4770S

And the i3-4150 does not support trusted execution, therefore I will give it another shot and just disable "Trusted Execution" for once on the i7... thank you all for your help so far.