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Hi guys 

 

I've just fixed it. 

 

Downloaded amd overdrive and saw that under load it had 4 degrees of thermal margin left.... 

 

So I dropped the clock speed from 4.4ghz 1.4v to 4.0ghz and 1.355v and the thermal margin left when under load went up to about 23 degrees of head room! 

 

Went onto csgo he now gets approx 275 fps stable instead of 140 fps with drops to 15fps intermittently.. 

 

I'm shocked as how he gets a more stable fps than my i5 6600k at 4.7ghz with 1.292v....... 

Hi guys,

 

My neighbour is having problems with his pc.

 

When he plays games they play fine for a minute or 2 then he gets massive fps drops in any game he plays.

 

I have re done the thermal paste and reseated the cooler to try and make sure it's not that causing it.

 

I got him to download CoreTemp (alcu) it shows core 0 only and shows about 35oC when idle, when he gets an fps drop the max temp shoots too 255oC and then drops when his fps recovers.

 

I am very puzzled as it only shows core 0 temp as all 4 cores do you divide that by 4 to get the actual temp of all 4 cores?

 

EDIT: Specs from AMD website, it shows Max temp is 61.10 degrees c surely that is rather low?

Model: FX-4170

Family: AMD FX Series

Line: AMD FX 4-Core Black Edition

Platform: Desktop

OPN Tray: FD4170FRW4KGU

OPN PIB: FD4170FRGUSBOX

# of CPU Cores: 4

# of Threads: 4

Base Clock: 4.2GHz

Max Boost Clock: 4.3GHz

Total L1 Cache: 192KB

Total L2 Cache: 4MB

Total L3 Cache: 8MB

Unlocked: No

CMOS: 32nm

Package: AM3+

PCI Express Version: n/a

Default TDP / TDP: 125W

Max Temps: 61.10°C

System Memory Type: Not Listed

Supported Technologies: AES

 

 

He has:

 

FX 4170

GTX 960 MSI

16GB DDR3

WD 1tb

gigabyte mobo

 

I am at a loss of whether the cpu is throttling or not.....

 

 

Any help would be greatly appreciated....

 

Thanks in advance.

Ryzen 9 7900X

Asrock X670E PG Lightning 

32GB G.Skill 6000mhz DDR5

1TB Samsung 990 Pro 

Rdna 2 iGPU 

 

 

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Use HwInfo and test temps while the CPU is doing a stress test (aida64 should work fine).

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4 minutes ago, sazrocks said:

Use HwInfo and test temps while the CPU is doing a stress test (aida64 should work fine).

Indeed, try HWinfo or HWmonitor with a stress test. You can also try MSI afterburner(Rivatuner statistics) to see what the cpu does during gameplay.

If nothing works, try resocketing the CPU. 

 

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1 hour ago, MrBaker89 said:

Hi guys,

 

My neighbour is having problems with his pc.

 

When he plays games they play fine for a minute or 2 then he gets massive fps drops in any game he plays.

 

I have re done the thermal paste and reseated the cooler to try and make sure it's not that causing it.

 

I got him to download CoreTemp (alcu) it shows core 0 only and shows about 35oC when idle, when he gets an fps drop the max temp shoots too 255oC and then drops when his fps recovers.

 

I am very puzzled as it only shows core 0 temp as all 4 cores do you divide that by 4 to get the actual temp of all 4 cores?

 

EDIT: Specs from AMD website, it shows Max temp is 61.10 degrees c surely that is rather low?

Model: FX-4170

Family: AMD FX Series

Line: AMD FX 4-Core Black Edition

Platform: Desktop

OPN Tray: FD4170FRW4KGU

OPN PIB: FD4170FRGUSBOX

# of CPU Cores: 4

# of Threads: 4

Base Clock: 4.2GHz

Max Boost Clock: 4.3GHz

Total L1 Cache: 192KB

Total L2 Cache: 4MB

Total L3 Cache: 8MB

Unlocked: No

CMOS: 32nm

Package: AM3+

PCI Express Version: n/a

Default TDP / TDP: 125W

Max Temps: 61.10°C

System Memory Type: Not Listed

Supported Technologies: AES

 

 

He has:

 

FX 4170

GTX 960 MSI

16GB DDR3

WD 1tb

gigabyte mobo

 

I am at a loss of whether the cpu is throttling or not.....

 

 

Any help would be greatly appreciated....

 

Thanks in advance.

Did he overclock or change BIOS at all?

 

Is there a BIOS update available?

 

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Hi guys 

 

I've just fixed it. 

 

Downloaded amd overdrive and saw that under load it had 4 degrees of thermal margin left.... 

 

So I dropped the clock speed from 4.4ghz 1.4v to 4.0ghz and 1.355v and the thermal margin left when under load went up to about 23 degrees of head room! 

 

Went onto csgo he now gets approx 275 fps stable instead of 140 fps with drops to 15fps intermittently.. 

 

I'm shocked as how he gets a more stable fps than my i5 6600k at 4.7ghz with 1.292v....... 

Ryzen 9 7900X

Asrock X670E PG Lightning 

32GB G.Skill 6000mhz DDR5

1TB Samsung 990 Pro 

Rdna 2 iGPU 

 

 

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I always wondered what the point was to have FPS that high? I understand you don’t want to dip below 60 or even 15, but having them that high seems wasteful. Does your friend at least have a g-sync monitor to take avantage of the frames?

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