Ryzen 5 Build Advice.

[elKz]

My current system (4770K) is 4 years old last month, I thought It was a about time for an upgrade because of the fact I'm having some motherboard issues that are causing boot issues. Anyway, I decided to go for a Ryzen build because If we're being honest, why would I stick with Intel this time round? But I'm a bit out of the loop when it comes to Ryzen so I thought I'd ask for some help/advice.

 

This is what I've come up with so far: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/xmCM7h

 

Any parts not on this list like hard drives etc, I'll be removing from my current system and adding to the new one. 

 

Is there anything I should add/remove/consider?

[Matt_98]

2 minutes ago, elKz said:

My current system (4770K) is 4 years old last month, I thought It was a about time for an upgrade because of the fact I'm having some motherboard issues that are causing boot issues. Anyway, I decided to go for a Ryzen build because If we're being honest, why would I stick with Intel this time round? But I'm a bit out of the loop when it comes to Ryzen so I thought I'd ask for some help/advice.

 

This is what I've come up with so far: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/

 

Any parts not on this list like hard drives etc, I'll be removing from my current system and adding to the new one. 

 

Is there anything I should add/remove/consider?

that's a blank link bro

[elKz]

2 minutes ago, Matt_98 said:

that's a blank link bro

I was just editing it as you posted that ^^.

 

Fixed: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/xmCM7h

[You_are_a_cunt]

Get faster memory. 3000MHz at least

[Matt_98]

1 minute ago, elKz said:

I was just editing it as you posted that ^^.

 

Fixed: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/xmCM7h

apart from faster ram I'd say your good to go

[Zando_]

Nice mobo choice! I'm getting the K7 (one step higher) when I upgrade to Ryzen. 

[Damascus]

Other than memory  it looks awesome, just finished my switch from a 6700k to 1700, super happy with it.

[Damascus]

Just now, Zando Bob said:

Nice mobo choice! I'm getting the K7 (one step higher) when I upgrade to Ryzen. 

 

 

Just in case you didn't know, the VRMs are basically identical between the K5 and K7

[elKz]

2 minutes ago, Damascus said:

Other than memory  it looks awesome, just finished my switch from a 6700k to 1700, super happy with it.

 

2 minutes ago, Matt_98 said:

apart from faster ram I'd say your good to go

 

3 minutes ago, revsilverspine said:

Get faster memory. 3000MHz at least

Replaced it with this: https://www.scan.co.uk/products/16gb-(2x8gb)-corsair-ddr4-vengeance-lpx-red-pc4-28800-(3600)-non-ecc-unbuffered-cas-18-19-19-39-xmp-

[Zando_]

Just now, Damascus said:

Just in case you didn't know, the VRMs are basically identical between the K5 and K7

Then what's the difference between the two? They look about the same. 

[You_are_a_cunt]

Just now, elKz said:

 

 

Replaced it with this: https://www.scan.co.uk/products/16gb-(2x8gb)-corsair-ddr4-vengeance-lpx-red-pc4-28800-(3600)-non-ecc-unbuffered-cas-18-19-19-39-xmp-

that's better. Actually considering the 8-gig flavor of that one myself

[elKz]

1 minute ago, Damascus said:

 

 

Just in case you didn't know, the VRMs are basically identical between the K5 and K7

I'll take a look at the K7 before I order it, didn't get much time to research everything and as I'm not all that clued up I'd of probably missed this so thanks.

[Damascus]

Just now, elKz said:

 

 

Replaced it with this: https://www.scan.co.uk/products/16gb-(2x8gb)-corsair-ddr4-vengeance-lpx-red-pc4-28800-(3600)-non-ecc-unbuffered-cas-18-19-19-39-xmp-

First RAM was better, you want low CAS latency and high MHZ

[Damascus]

Just now, elKz said:

I'll take a look at the K7 before I order it, didn't get much time to research everything and as I'm not all that clued up I'd of probably missed this so thanks.

 

1 minute ago, Zando Bob said:

Then what's the difference between the two? They look about the same. 

The point I'm saying is the K7 isn't worth it IMO.  You pay an extra $100 for very little

[elKz]

1 minute ago, Damascus said:

First RAM was better, you want low CAS latency and high MHZ

I'm having trouble seeing a lower CAS than that on this page & MHz. 

Unless I'm being blind? https://www.scan.co.uk/products/16gb-(2x8gb)-corsair-ddr4-vengeance-lpx-red-pc4-28800-(3600)-non-ecc-unbuffered-cas-18-19-19-39-xmp-

[Damascus]

Just now, elKz said:

I'm having trouble seeing a lower CAS than that on this page & MHz. 

 

Get a CAS 14 3200MHZ RAM kit.  Samsung B-dies are the best

[elKz]

2 minutes ago, Damascus said:

Get a CAS 14 3200MHZ RAM kit.  Samsung B-dies are the best

Attempt #3

https://www.scan.co.uk/products/16gb-(2x8gb)-corsair-ddr4-dominator-platinum-pc4-25600-(3200)-non-ecc-unbuffered-cas-14-16-16-36-xmp 

 

I want to stick with Corsair and that is the only CAS 14 that I can see on 3200.

[Zando_]

4 minutes ago, Damascus said:

 

The point I'm saying is the K7 isn't worth it IMO.  You pay an extra $100 for very little

Hmm. Seems like the difference is more fan/pump headers, U.2 (IDK what that is, so it's not a plus), dual LAN, and better audio. Don't flagship mobs get BIOS updates faster though?

[Damascus]

Just now, Zando Bob said:

Don't flagship mobs get BIOS updates faster though?

As far as I can tell they've been getting BIOS updates at the same time but you can check by going to the support pages and checking when each most recent equivalent update.

[JoostinOnline]

55 minutes ago, Zando Bob said:

Don't flagship mobs get BIOS updates faster though?

Honestly, I'd avoid Gigabyte if you want fast updates.  Take this with a pretty big grain of salt because it's only based on one experience, but I got a Gigabyte motherboard (I think Z97, but might have been H97) once and they stopped pushing updates after less than a year.  And it really needed them.  That's the last time I got anything from Gigabyte.

 

In contrast, I still get updates for my Z97 MSI motherboard.  I got one like a month ago.

[Megah3rtz]

1 minute ago, JoostinOnline said:

Honestly, I'd avoid Gigabyte if you want fast updates.  Take this with a pretty big grain of salt because it's only based on one experience, but I got a Gigabyte motherboard (I think Z97, but might have been H97) once and they stopped pushing updates after less than a year.  And it really needed them.  That's the last time I got anything from Gigabyte.

On that note, If you're switching motherboards stay away from MSI ryzen boards, even the highest end models have problems with boot times with the latest bios. 

 

(taking anywhere from 30sec-2+mins )

[JoostinOnline]

Just now, Megah3rtz said:

On that note, If you're switching motherboards stay away from MSI ryzen boards, even the highest end models have problems with boot times with the latest bios. 

Good to know.  I've only had good experiences with MSI, but I've never bought a Ryzen system.

[elKz]

1 hour ago, Damascus said:

Get a CAS 14 3200MHZ RAM kit.  Samsung B-dies are the best

Attempt #3

https://www.scan.co.uk/products/16gb-(2x8gb)-corsair-ddr4-dominator-platinum-pc4-25600-(3200)-non-ecc-unbuffered-cas-14-16-16-36-xmp

 

I've selected the above memory, the people I have building the system for me (unable to do it myself due to disability) have said the following:

 

Quote

I have produced the mains specification via the link below, the 3200MHz will have to be changed as we find that RAM above 2400MHz is not stable with this platform.

 

[Damascus]

1 minute ago, elKz said:

I've selected the above memory, the people I have building the system for me (unable to do it myself due to disability) have said the following:

 

DEMAND that they use The Samsung B-dies.  Even if the builder only sets it up for 2400Mhz you can very easily change it yourself later.

 

Fast RAM can increase your performance by 15%

[elKz]

Just now, Damascus said:

DEMAND that they use The Samsung B-dies.  Even if the builder only sets it up for 2400Mhz you can very easily change it yourself later.

 

Fast RAM can increase your performance by 15%

I'm assuming B-die will mean that I have less instability issues?