Network wont connect

[RS2007GOD]

Hi all so im new to tho whole home network thing im completly new to it but am determined to get it working if possible.

 

What im trying to do is set up my streaming pc WITHOUT a capture card by sending a high bitrate OBS recording with NVENC over lan from my gaming pc to my streaming pc which then will encode it and stream via OBS. Or somthign like this.. 

 

Problem is when i connect the ethernet cable between the two pc's it says invalid ip configuration and wont let me connect? Iv setup homegroups and joined it on both pcs via router but wont let me join that either via the p2p network.

I understand i need to set up my streaming pc with an internet connection and share that connection with my gaming pc (or vise versa) this is the problem. what ever i do it just wont seem to connect or even network with each other but does reconise each others pcs with a yellow (!) mark.

 

HELP PLEASE AHHHHH

[Oliy]

10 minutes ago, RS2007GOD said:

Hi all so im new to tho whole home network thing im completly new to it but am determined to get it working if possible.

 

What im trying to do is set up my streaming pc WITHOUT a capture card by sending a high bitrate OBS recording with NVENC over lan from my gaming pc to my streaming pc which then will encode it and stream via OBS. Or somthign like this.. 

 

Problem is when i connect the ethernet cable between the two pc's it says invalid ip configuration and wont let me connect? Iv setup homegroups and joined it on both pcs via router but wont let me join that either via the p2p network.

I understand i need to set up my streaming pc with an internet connection and share that connection with my gaming pc (or vise versa) this is the problem. what ever i do it just wont seem to connect or even network with each other but does reconise each others pcs with a yellow (!) mark.

 

HELP PLEASE AHHHHH

Are you sure all the wires are working? Are you sure all the ports are working? Are you sure you have all relevent drivers for the machines?

[RS2007GOD]

Just now, Oliy said:

Are you sure all the wires are working? Are you sure all the ports are working? Are you sure you have all relevent drivers for the machines?

No, Yes and Yes

 

I have a few different cables but none seem to work

[beanhubbleday]

You'd need a crossover cable rather than a straight through which you most likely have, that is the first part of the problem.

[RS2007GOD]

Just now, JackHubbleday said:

You'd need a crossover cable rather than a straight through which you most likely have, that is the first part of the problem.

yes i kinda figured that out now. i have a tia/eia 568b.2 utp cat.5e cable which seems to get some connectivity compared to the others, is this maybe a crossover cable?

[beanhubbleday]

Does it look like this?

 

[RS2007GOD]

2 minutes ago, JackHubbleday said:

Does it look like this?

 

no it only has 4 wires each side 

[beanhubbleday]

Just now, RS2007GOD said:

no it only has 4 wires each side 

Ah, is it a network cable then? If you go from a laptop/PC to the router does it work?

 

[RS2007GOD]

Just now, JackHubbleday said:

Ah, is it a network cable then? If you go from a laptop/PC to the router does it work?

 

i cannot test that atm till tomorrow.. its late and cant be waking people up to test. from what ive read cat-5 and the 568b cable is crossover but this is 568b.2 and looks different to diagrams. I can get connectivity one way but not the other. may this still work for importing the recording from the gaming pc?

[RS2007GOD]

1 minute ago, RS2007GOD said:

i cannot test that atm till tomorrow.. its late and cant be waking people up to test. from what ive read cat-5 and the 568b cable is crossover but this is 568b.2 and looks different to diagrams. I can get connectivity one way but not the other. may this still work for importing the recording from the gaming pc?

as a note when connected it says bytes received and sent on both pcs

[beanhubbleday]

Okay, they're talking but yhe second machine cannot get an IP from the first as the first does not know how to delegate the IP's  

[RS2007GOD]

1 minute ago, JackHubbleday said:

Okay, they're talking but yhe second machine cannot get an IP from the first as the first does not know how to delegate the IP's  

ok that sounds good and bad :0 what do i do?

[beanhubbleday]

3 minutes ago, RS2007GOD said:

ok that sounds good and bad :0 what do i do?

If it is that, not much. I don't get what you're doing really so I cannot offer alternatives but essentially Pc1 can get an IP and then Pc2 is asking Pc1 for an IP and Pc1 turns around and says well I only have one and it is mine and so therefore Pc2 is left with the same IP as Pc1 but Pc2's will not work.

 

Maybe an external graphics card will help, but don't quote me on that...

 

I guess if I understood what you were doing i may be able to help but I don't lmao...

[RS2007GOD]

2 minutes ago, JackHubbleday said:

If it is that, not much. I don't get what you're doing really so I cannot offer alternatives but essentially Pc1 can get an IP and then Pc2 is asking Pc1 for an IP and Pc1 turns around and says well I only have one and it is mine and so therefore Pc2 is left with the same IP as Pc1 but Pc2's will not work.

 

Maybe an external graphics card will help, but don't quote me on that...

 

I guess if I understood what you were doing i may be able to help but I don't lmao...

right.. so honestly i dont really know what im doing myself. i found this explaining what im trying to do and he mentions a crossover cable which i think i have

[RS2007GOD]

 

 

[beanhubbleday]

Just now, RS2007GOD said:

right.. so honestly i dont really know what im doing myself. i found this explaining what im trying to do and he mentions a crossover cable which i think i have

There's got to be a simpler way than doing it by connecting two machines, physically.

[RS2007GOD]

6 minutes ago, JackHubbleday said:

If it is that, not much. I don't get what you're doing really so I cannot offer alternatives but essentially Pc1 can get an IP and then Pc2 is asking Pc1 for an IP and Pc1 turns around and says well I only have one and it is mine and so therefore Pc2 is left with the same IP as Pc1 but Pc2's will not work.

 

Maybe an external graphics card will help, but don't quote me on that...

 

I guess if I understood what you were doing i may be able to help but I don't lmao...

sorry forgot to put in link 

 

[beanhubbleday]

3 minutes ago, RS2007GOD said:

sorry forgot to put in link 

 

I'll watch when im home. working atm so can't hear it..

[RS2007GOD]

right ok, SO ive managed to get connectivity BOTH ways. i can now acess files on both pcs. problem now is when i try to share internet to the other pc it doesnt work

 

[RS2007GOD]

if anyone can help this is the part im stuck with.

 

My OS is windows 10 fully up to date and for soem reason i do not get a dropdown meny to choose a network adapter

[beanhubbleday]

24 minutes ago, RS2007GOD said:

right ok, SO ive managed to get connectivity BOTH ways. i can now acess files on both pcs. problem now is when i try to share internet to the other pc it doesnt work

 

As I explained before:

37 minutes ago, JackHubbleday said:

If it is that, not much. I don't get what you're doing really so I cannot offer alternatives but essentially Pc1 can get an IP and then Pc2 is asking Pc1 for an IP and Pc1 turns around and says well I only have one and it is mine and so therefore Pc2 is left with the same IP as Pc1 but Pc2's will not work.

This is why...

[RS2007GOD]

7 minutes ago, JackHubbleday said:

As I explained before:

This is why...

right well i just clicked share connection and dint use the drop down, it paired showing "shared" followed everything perfectly and now its telling me on main pc that there is "internet acess" to the 2nd pc but the 2nd pc still wont connect when his does. Im guess this is what your saying before but what is the problem? is it one of my pc's or the cable you think? Bost pc's are skylake machines so not old hardware.

[beanhubbleday]

Just now, RS2007GOD said:

right well i just clicked share connection and dint use the drop down, it paired showing "shared" followed everything perfectly and now its telling me on main pc that there is "internet acess" to the 2nd pc but the 2nd pc still wont connect when his does. Im guess this is what your saying before but what is the problem? is it one of my pc's or the cable you think? Bost pc's are skylake machines so not old hardware.

No, it is not meant to work in that way. There is nothing wrong with the machines - just what you're doing isn't right and won't work

[RS2007GOD]

2 minutes ago, JackHubbleday said:

No, it is not meant to work in that way. There is nothing wrong with the machines - just what you're doing isn't right and won't work

right so im guessing you cannot tell me the right way?

[beanhubbleday]

In essence both machines will need two network cards each for this to work in that way...