TUF Gaming PC Build

[Chiyawa]

Budget (including currency): Best performance vs. price ratio

Country: Malaysia

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: A lot, maybe, but mostly RTS (The Sims, Sim City, Command and Conquer, StarCraft)

Other details Has to be Asus TUF themed. All brands are accepted.

 

Hi,

 

I'm tasked by one of my friend on building a 100% (well, maybe above 95%) Asus TUF PC (yeah, he is Asus TUF crazy). His budget: The best performance vs price ratio.

 

So, here's what I could come up, based on the availability from my local store and Amazon:

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gBbKZZ

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 3950X 3.5 GHz 16-Core Processor  ($709.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus TUF GAMING X570-PRO (WI-FI) ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($219.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Team T-FORCE VULCAN TUF Gaming Allian 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL19 Memory  ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Team T-FORCE VULCAN TUF Gaming Allian 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL19 Memory  ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate BarraCuda Pro 4 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($196.54 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate BarraCuda Pro 4 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($196.54 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Asus GeForce RTX 2060 6 GB TUF OC Video Card  ($339.99 @ B&H)
Case: Asus TUF Gaming GT501 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($165.56 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Cooler Master MasterWatt TUF 750 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit  ($139.88 @ Other World Computing)
Monitor: Asus TUF Gaming VG27AQ 27.0" 2560x1440 165 Hz Monitor  ($499.00 @ Amazon)
Mouse: Asus TUF Gaming M5 Wired Optical Mouse  ($33.49 @ Amazon)
Headphones: Asus TUF Gaming H5 7.1 Channel  Headset  ($149.99 @ Amazon)
Custom: ASUS TUF Gaming P3 Mousepad with Anti-Fray Stitching and Non-Slip Base (13.78 in X 11.02 in)  ($21.99 @ Amazon)
Custom: ASUS TUF Gaming K7 Optical-Mech Gaming Keyboard with Tactile Switch, Detachable Wrist Rest, IP56 Waterproof Standard and Aura Sync RGB Lighting  ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Custom: Team Group T-FORCE CARDEA II TUF Gaming Alliance M.2 2280 512GB...
Custom: Team Group T-FORCE CARDEA II TUF Gaming Alliance M.2 2280 512GB...
Custom: ASUS TUF Gaming LC 240 RGB All-in-one Liquid CPU Cooler (Aura Sync,TUF 120mm RGB Radiator Fans with Fan Blade Groove Design)  ($130.46 @ Amazon)
Custom: TEAMGROUP T-Force Delta TUF Gaming Alliance RGB SSD 1TB 2.5 inch SATA III 3D NAND Internal Solid State Drive (5V RGB Header) T253TT001T3C313  ($129.99 @ Amazon)
Custom: TEAMGROUP T-Force Delta TUF Gaming Alliance RGB SSD 1TB 2.5 inch SATA III 3D NAND Internal Solid State Drive (5V RGB Header) T253TT001T3C313  ($129.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $3303.37
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-10-16 04:54 EDT-0400

 

So, anyway, that's pretty much the best I can come up with, but if there's other cool Asus TUF theme product, do let me know.

[boggy77]

3 minutes ago, Chiyawa said:

Asus TUF PC

 

3 minutes ago, Chiyawa said:

he best performance vs price ratio

these are contradictory.

a themed pc will never be best price to performance.

 

now, going to the build:

 

4 minutes ago, Chiyawa said:

Memory: Team T-FORCE VULCAN TUF Gaming Allian 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL19 Memory  ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Team T-FORCE VULCAN TUF Gaming Allian 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL19 Memory  ($64.99 @ Newegg)

you want 2x16gb of ram, not 4x8. and you want lower latency, c19 is high and will affect performance. go for 3600C16 (ideal) or 3600c18 or 3200C16.

 

5 minutes ago, Chiyawa said:

Storage: Seagate BarraCuda Pro 4 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($196.54 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate BarraCuda Pro 4 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($196.54 @ Amazon)

 

8 minutes ago, Chiyawa said:

Custom: Team Group T-FORCE CARDEA II TUF Gaming Alliance M.2 2280 512GB...
Custom: Team Group T-FORCE CARDEA II TUF Gaming Alliance M.2 2280 512GB...

 

8 minutes ago, Chiyawa said:

Custom: TEAMGROUP T-Force Delta TUF Gaming Alliance RGB SSD 1TB 2.5 inch SATA III 3D NAND Internal Solid State Drive (5V RGB Header) T253TT001T3C313  ($129.99 @ Amazon)
Custom: TEAMGROUP T-Force Delta TUF Gaming Alliance RGB SSD 1TB 2.5 inch SATA III 3D NAND Internal Solid State Drive (5V RGB Header) T253TT001T3C313  ($129.99 @ Amazon)

not sure why you need 11tb storage for a gaming pc.

 

a 1tb nvme ssd + 2tb hdd would be enough.

 

6 minutes ago, Chiyawa said:

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 3950X 3.5 GHz 16-Core Processor  ($709.99 @ Amazon)

 

6 minutes ago, Chiyawa said:

Video Card: Asus GeForce RTX 2060 6 GB TUF OC Video Card  ($339.99 @ B&H)

why a high end workstation CPU with a mid level GPU for gaming?

you should get a ryzen 5 3600 or 5600x and a rtx 3070 or 3080.

 

7 minutes ago, Chiyawa said:

Power Supply: Cooler Master MasterWatt TUF 750 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply

that's a low quality psu, even if is says TUF on it (or maybe especially because it says TUF on it)

 

[boggy77]

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor	$294.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard	Asus TUF GAMING X570-PRO (WI-FI) ATX AM4 Motherboard	$219.99 @ Amazon
Memory	Team T-FORCE VULCAN TUF Gaming Allian 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory	$104.99 @ Newegg
Storage	Toshiba X300 4 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	$109.99 @ Newegg
Video Card	Asus GeForce RTX 3080 10 GB TUF GAMING OC Video Card	$800.00
Case	Asus TUF Gaming GT501 ATX Mid Tower Case	$165.56 @ Amazon
Power Supply	Antec NeoECO Gold 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply	$107.98 @ Newegg
Operating System	Microsoft Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit	$139.88 @ Other World Computing
Monitor	Asus TUF Gaming VG27AQ 27.0" 2560x1440 165 Hz Monitor	$459.99 @ Amazon
Mouse	Asus TUF Gaming M5 Wired Optical Mouse	$33.49 @ Amazon
Headphones	Asus TUF Gaming H5 7.1 Channel Headset	$149.99 @ Amazon
Custom	ASUS TUF Gaming P3 Mousepad with Anti-Fray Stitching and Non-Slip Base (13.78 in X 11.02 in)	$21.99 @ Amazon
Custom	ASUS TUF Gaming K7 Optical-Mech Gaming Keyboard with Tactile Switch, Detachable Wrist Rest, IP56 Waterproof Standard and Aura Sync RGB Lighting	$109.99 @ Amazon
Custom	Team Group T-FORCE CARDEA II TUF Gaming Alliance M.2 2280 512GB...
Custom	ASUS TUF Gaming LC 240 RGB All-in-one Liquid CPU Cooler (Aura Sync,TUF 120mm RGB Radiator Fans with Fan Blade Groove Design)	$130.46 @ Amazon
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$2849.29
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-10-16 05:20 EDT-0400

 

[Fungal]

What exactly do they need this for. You put some rts games but that doesn't warrant a 16-core cpu. I'm guessing you had the 2 of each storage device for running in raid, but there's no point of running in raid unless you have data that's impossible or hard to replace. Do they need windows 10 pro either? 

 

I'd scrap most of the components for something else. Without knowing what they're using the pc for I'll just try and give you a good price to performance build. 

CPU: 5600x or 5800x

Mobo: same or a b550 motherboard

Ram: 3200mhz CL16 or 3600mhz CL18 16-32 gb

GPU: rtx 3070 or big navi

SSD: 512 gb pcie gen 4 m.2 ssd. (980 or sabrent rocket)

SSD2: 1-2 tb sata ssd based on what they need (mx500, 860evo, wd blue)

HDD: 4tb ~ $100 (if they really need mass storage)

PSU: 650-850 80+ gold psu (don't get TUF branding)

OS: windows 10 home

[Chiyawa]

22 minutes ago, boggy77 said:

not sure why you need 11tb storage for a gaming pc.

He does use his PC to record his stream, so needs lots of storage for all his video files. Hmm, guess I forget to add in this info.

 

23 minutes ago, boggy77 said:

that's a low quality psu, even if is says TUF on it (or maybe especially because it says TUF on it)

Yeah. Agree, but he wants it, so...

 

I'm still looking for a better PSU with TUF theme.

 

22 minutes ago, boggy77 said:

PCPartPicker Part List

Thanks. I'll look into it.

 

10 minutes ago, Fungal said:

Do they need windows 10 pro either? 

Well, I should have mention the system is gaming/workstation hybrid.

 

Thanks, I'll check on your suggestion.

[Chiyawa]

28 minutes ago, boggy77 said:

Asus GeForce RTX 3080 10 GB TUF GAMING OC Video Card

I'm waiting for TUF RTX3080, which is unfortunately not available.

[Chiyawa]

You know what, I think I just tell him to get a Asus TUF laptop, much more better. The A17 one seems not bad, but too bad that giant hunk of laptop doesn't even have RTX2060 Max-Q! The A15 does have RTX2060, although the laptop is smaller.

[AzzaNezz]

Jesus Christ,just build a proper pc,there are good suggestions in comments.Tell you buddy to buy a TUF sticker and put it on pc parts.

And no do not buy laptop.

Laptop are great,portable etc,but raw power and mostly important his desktop will run longer then laptop.

[Chiyawa]

On 10/17/2020 at 1:27 PM, AzzaNezz said:

Jesus Christ,just build a proper pc,there are good suggestions in comments.Tell you buddy to buy a TUF sticker and put it on pc parts.

And no do not buy laptop.

Laptop are great,portable etc,but raw power and mostly important his desktop will run longer then laptop.

Yeah, too bad he is stubborn as a mule. But it's okay. I know many people did try to get me the best PC components, even I try to advise him about that, but he still insisted. Well, need more persuasion, I guess.

 

Anyway, after a little chat, he is considering for the laptop since he will be going to college next year. I felt laptop will be much suited since he will be travelling frequently.

 

As for the desktop, well, I'm still trying to persuade him to only get TUF casing while leave the rest to a more better components, if he still decided to go for desktop.

 

Remember guys, it is 'HIS' PC that I'm building, not mine. I'm also not really an Asus fan (although Strix looks cool but they somehow overpriced IMO). I'm more like Gigabyte and Thermaltake fanboy, but usually I leave my option opens for other brand as well.

 

Also, as I was looking this, is AMD Ryzen 5 3600 desktop CPU becoming more expensive? Not only that, but like many of 3000 series CPU are getting expensive from last month. My local shop seems to raise their price by a little.

[AzzaNezz]

9 hours ago, Chiyawa said:

Yeah, too bad he is stubborn as a mule. But it's okay. I know many people did try to get me the best PC components, even I try to advise him about that, but he still insisted. Well, need more persuasion, I guess.

 

Anyway, after a little chat, he is considering for the laptop since he will be going to college next year. I felt laptop will be much suited since he will be travelling frequently.

 

As for the desktop, well, I'm still trying to persuade him to only get TUF casing while leave the rest to a more better components, if he still decided to go for desktop.

 

Remember guys, it is 'HIS' PC that I'm building, not mine. I'm also not really an Asus fan (although Strix looks cool but they somehow overpriced IMO). I'm more like Gigabyte and Thermaltake fanboy, but usually I leave my option opens for other brand as well.

 

Also, as I was looking this, is AMD Ryzen 5 3600 desktop CPU becoming more expensive? Not only that, but like many of 3000 series CPU are getting expensive from last month. My local shop seems to raise their price by a little.

Well,my myself i aint loyal to any brand,i will buy something that is better then stick to certain brand.Maybe he is liking some streamer and he said TUF is good etc.

If he is traveling you cant beat laptop then,you should build/buy setup depending on your needs.

It shouldnt be more expensive,maybe they are getting rid of the stock and trying to earn extra money,or they are just raising prices before black friday,so when they put black friday "sale",its gona be regular price actually,many shops do this kind of stuff.

And with laptop you should do a lot of research,since some laptop even with great components,have bad build quality and bad thermals.

[Chiyawa]

19 hours ago, AzzaNezz said:

It shouldnt be more expensive,maybe they are getting rid of the stock and trying to earn extra money,or they are just raising prices before black friday,so when they put black friday "sale",its gona be regular price actually,many shops do this kind of stuff.

We at Malaysia doesn't have Black Friday Sales. I guess it is likely currency, but I don't think our currency varies by a lot since the beginning of the year. Still baffles me why they raised the price. Not sure is it because of supply vs. demand. Anyway, it's not uncommon to see AMD or Intel raise or lower their price beyond US market last time. So I guess maybe, just maybe AMD Malaysia is raising the price, or it could be the product is harder to get, since 5000 series is about to launch.

 

19 hours ago, AzzaNezz said:

If he is traveling you cant beat laptop then,you should build/buy setup depending on your needs.

Yeah. He is quite picky, and I'm quite annoyed by his decision. We as a friend try to get the best for him, but he's like, 'I want it my way'.

19 hours ago, AzzaNezz said:

And with laptop you should do a lot of research,since some laptop even with great components,have bad build quality and bad thermals.

So, anyway, I'm thinking of getting him Asus TUF Gaming A17. I'm going to recommend him the Ryzen 7 4800H with GTX1660Ti. I'm also thinking of Asus TUF Gaming A15, which has RTX2060 and Ryzen 9, but he might need a bigger screen as he usually doing video editing and stuff. I don't know, but I'll just let him decide.

[AzzaNezz]

4 hours ago, Chiyawa said:

We at Malaysia doesn't have Black Friday Sales. I guess it is likely currency, but I don't think our currency varies by a lot since the beginning of the year. Still baffles me why they raised the price. Not sure is it because of supply vs. demand. Anyway, it's not uncommon to see AMD or Intel raise or lower their price beyond US market last time. So I guess maybe, just maybe AMD Malaysia is raising the price, or it could be the product is harder to get, since 5000 series is about to launch.

 

Yeah. He is quite picky, and I'm quite annoyed by his decision. We as a friend try to get the best for him, but he's like, 'I want it my way'.

So, anyway, I'm thinking of getting him Asus TUF Gaming A17. I'm going to recommend him the Ryzen 7 4800H with GTX1660Ti. I'm also thinking of Asus TUF Gaming A15, which has RTX2060 and Ryzen 9, but he might need a bigger screen as he usually doing video editing and stuff. I don't know, but I'll just let him decide.

well ryzen 4000 series prove it self like a good choice,i am honestly clueless on how strong gpu will he need for video editing and stuff,but he can always pickup one cheaper external monitor,siince well dual monitors are blessing for workstuff,

[Chiyawa]

10 hours ago, AzzaNezz said:

well ryzen 4000 series prove it self like a good choice,i am honestly clueless on how strong gpu will he need for video editing and stuff,but he can always pickup one cheaper external monitor,siince well dual monitors are blessing for workstuff,

Indeed. I mean, he did some gaming, mostly RTS like StarCraft 2, so quite many of the game doesn't require high end graphic with the exception of Anno series. I wonder why A17, being bigger, doesn't have Ryzen 9 and RTX 2060 as option but the A15 has. It kinda makes no sense. A17 is bigger and can fit bigger heat sink.