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i7 9700k Usage is out of control

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Posted · Original PosterOP
I seriously need help, I just built a gaming pc and my cpu usage is extremely high
specs are
 
i7 9700k 4.5 GHz (for now)
2080 super
h80i liquid
msi edge
 
I get good temps and good performance sometimes but on alot of games my cpu usage reaches 100, like alot. This is making it hard to have a smooth experience and I cant stream games AT ALL. This is so conflicting because people are streaming the games i try to with WORSE parts. I stocked out the GHz on the cpu to see if that would help but its the same result. Is there anything I can do or did i just get unlucky. I also saw through benchmarks that the i7 9700k has a higher usage than any other cpu in its class, but i dont think it should be to the point where im at a constant 90+ right?
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Why are you streaming off the CPU when you have NVENC built into the GPU?


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Posted · Original PosterOP

i am using NVENC...also 90% of the usage is from the game itself

 

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Just now, Guilt said:

i am using NVENC...also 90% of the usage is from the game itself

 

Remember to quote or tag us (like @gloop) so we can see your reply.

 

What games? IIRC the 9700k is 8/8 which is challenged by a lot of games today.


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Posted · Original PosterOP

@gloop black desert online

             GTA 5

             Hyper Scape

             Apex Legends

             Even Fortnite

All unstreamable for me

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@Guilt

Do you have the CPU overclocked to 4.5 GHz across all cores, or is the CPU Turbo Boosting up to 4.5 GHz?

If you are doing a manual overclock, what Core Voltage are you using?

Also, what motherboard are you using (make and model) ?

 

Your Corsait H80i might be a little on the weak side, especially for an overclocking i7-9700K.


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Posted · Original PosterOP

@-rascal- all core 4.5 ghz and around 1.3 voltage and i thought the clocking was the issue aswell until i reset all the settings. 

                 also if the temps are good can it still be a cooler issue? 

                 Motherboard is a MSI edge z390

                 

Also this is probably a dumb question but is it even possible for a cpu to work if its in the wrong direction

 

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I recently upgraded from a 9700K to a 9900K. I was seeing very high usage in some games (Ghost Recon Breakpoint, for example) so It was obvious that the lack of hyper threading was a factor. The 9900K shows at least 20-30% lower utilization in games. I was able to sell my 9700K for almost the same price that I paid for it so it was worth it for me. 

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@Bobbysixjp Thats what i was planning on doing but i really wanted to see if the 9700k was just THIS bad or if i got a faulty cpu. Also where did you sell your 9700k?

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10 minutes ago, Guilt said:

@-rascal- all core 4.5 ghz and around 1.3 voltage and i thought the clocking was the issue aswell until i reset all the settings. 

                 also if the temps are good can it still be a cooler issue? 

                 Motherboard is a MSI edge z390

                 

Also this is probably a dumb question but is it even possible for a cpu to work if its in the wrong direction

 

 

You can't put the CPU into the socket in the wrong direction.

The CPU socket on the motherboard is keyed, so it only goes in one way.

Putting the CPU in wrong will also kill the motherboard and/or CPU.

 

Okay, so the motherboard is decent.

Do you have Multicore Enhancement (MCE) enabled in your board BIOS settings?

What is your Windows Power options set to?

 

4.5 GHz all-core overclock with 1.3V isn't too bad...

What are your other voltage settings? E.g. VCCIO? System Agent voltage?

What CPU Load Line Calibration setting are you uisng?

 

What case are you using, and what is your cooling fan configuration?


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Posted · Original PosterOP

@-rascal- ah im not too sure about those settings

                 other than the voltage and cores everything else is as is..

 

                 Case is Thermaltake level 20MT

                 3 front fans

                 CPU cooler in the back 

                 1 top

 

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6 minutes ago, Guilt said:

@Bobbysixjp Thats what i was planning on doing but i really wanted to see if the 9700k was just THIS bad or if i got a faulty cpu. Also where did you sell your 9700k?

Well I live in Japan so I sold it on an auction site here. It seems that the 9700K will start to struggle sooner rather than later because of the lack of HT. 

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6 minutes ago, Guilt said:

@-rascal- ah im not too sure about those settings

                 other than the voltage and cores everything else is as is..

 

                 Case is Thermaltake level 20MT

                 3 front fans

                 CPU cooler in the back 

                 1 top

 

 

Oh jeez....that case...where the front 3x fans have like no airflow.

That case makes the front 3x fans useless, because of the solid front side panel that is almost RIGHT up against the fans...

(I don't know what Thermaltake Engineers / Marketing team were smoking when designing this case)

 

Just to test temporarily, take the side panel off, and run some tests / games, and report back the temperatures.

 

Supposedly, you can also mount fans on the right side panel.


Intel Z390 Rig ( *NEW* Primary )

Intel X99 Rig (Officially Decommissioned, Dead CPU returned to Intel)

  • i7-8086K @ 5.1 GHz (still tweaking) -- i7-6800K
  • Gigabyte Z390 Aorus Master -- ASUS X99 Deluxe
  • Sapphire NITRO+ RX 5700 XT Special Edition -- 2x Sapphire NITRO R9-Fury in Crossfire
  • 32GB G.Skill TridentZ DDR4-3000 CL14 (16GB TridentZ RGB + 16GB Red/Black TridentZ)
  • SanDisk 480 GB SSD + 1TB Samsung 860 EVO + 1TB Intel 660p NVMe
  • EVGA SuperNOVA 850W P2 + Red/White CableMod Cables
  • Phanteks Enthoo Luxe Tempered Glass Edition
  • Ekwb Custom loop
  • Logitech G502 Proteus Spectrum + Corsair K70 (Red LED, anodized black, Cheery MX Browns)

Intel Z97 Rig (Secondary)

  • Intel i5-4690K 4.8 GHz
  • ASUS ROG Maximus VII Hero Z97
  • Sapphire Vapor-X HD 7950 EVGA GTX 1070 SC Black Edition ACX 3.0
  • 20 GB (8GB X 2 + 4GB X 1) Corsair Vengeance DDR3 1600 MHz
  • Corsair A50 air cooler  NZXT X61
  • Crucial MX500 1TB SSD + SanDisk Ultra II 240GB SSD + WD Caviar Black 1TB HDD + Kingston V300 120GB SSD [non-gimped version]
  • Antec New TruePower 550W EVGA G2 650W + White CableMod cables
  • Cooler Master HAF 912 White NZXT S340 Elite w/ white LED stips

AMD 990FX Rig (Decommissioned)

  • FX-8350 @ 4.8 / 4.9 GHz (given up on the 5.0 / 5.1 GHz attempt)
  • ASUS ROG Crosshair V Formula 990FX
  • 12 GB (4 GB X 3) G.Skill RipJawsX DDR3 @ 1866 MHz
  • Sapphire Vapor-X HD 7970 + Sapphire Dual-X HD 7970 in Crossfire  Sapphire NITRO R9-Fury in Crossfire *NONE*
  • Thermaltake Frio w/ Cooler Master JetFlo's in push-pull
  • Samsung 850 EVO 500GB SSD + Kingston V300 120GB SSD + WD Caviar Black 1TB HDD
  • Corsair TX850 (ver.1)
  • Cooler Master HAF 932

 

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<> Electronics Engineering Technician for the Canadian Department of National Defence <>

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