I would like to put new GPU with my old i5 4570, help please?

[Edon]

Hi all!

 

I have old PC with i5 4570 inside, I would like to upgrade my current GPU ( AMD 7850 2gb), also 16gb of ddr3. I have 1440p screen ( Dell U2715h) and I would like to use it as best as possible. 

 

Games that I play are something like Anno 1800, Battlefield, Starcraft 2, Deus ex, etc..  but Im not competitive gamer nor I require 10^99 FPS, 60 fps is more then  fine for me. (I know more is  better and that is all good, Im not ready to commit to buy everything new at this point).

 

I enjoy graphic fidelity more then all that fps, so I was thinking to buy 2060 super or 1660 super. Im not sure what I gain/lose if I go with either of this option so I would appreciate your input. 

 

Could someone please give me some suggestions?

 

Thank you!

[gilad]

6 minutes ago, Edon said:

Hi all!

 

I have old PC with i5 4570 inside, I would like to upgrade my current GPU ( AMD 7850 2gb), also 16gb of ddr3. I have 1440p screen ( Dell U2715h) and I would like to use it as best as possible. 

 

Games that I play are something like Anno 1800, Battlefield, Starcraft 2, Deus ex, etc..  but Im not competitive gamer nor I require 10^99 FPS, 60 fps is more then  fine for me. (I know more is  better and that is all good, Im not ready to commit to buy everything new at this point).

 

I enjoy graphic fidelity more then all that fps, so I was thinking to buy 2060 super or 1660 super. Im not sure what I gain/lose if I go with either of this option so I would appreciate your input. 

 

Could someone please give me some suggestions?

 

Thank you!

s you can get 2070 super or 2060 super but dont buy rx5700 or rx5700xt i got it and is terrible! and what is your psu valtage? you need atleast 600w

[Haro]

What are they priced at and what about the 5600xt and the 5700 ?

Your kind of limited by your haswell cpu 

Lacks ipc and it's a 4c/4t cpu as well 

In games like Anno 1800, where from what I have seen , is a cpu heavy game. You'll be heavily limited by your cpu.

[Haro]

17 minutes ago, gilad said:

you need atleast 600w

Where  did you get that from ?!

First of all , wattage isn't quality 

Second if all, no, a 3950x and a 2080ti can run on a 550w.

17 minutes ago, gilad said:

rx5700 or rx5700xt i got it and is terrible!

Can you explain why ? 

Drivers are fixed for the most part, and they offer similar performance for cheaper.

Edited July 6, 2020 by TofuHaroto

[gilad]

6 minutes ago, Edon said:

Hi all!

 

I have old PC with i5 4570 inside, I would like to upgrade my current GPU ( AMD 7850 2gb), also 16gb of ddr3. I have 1440p screen ( Dell U2715h) and I would like to use it as best as possible. 

 

Games that I play are something like Anno 1800, Battlefield, Starcraft 2, Deus ex, etc..  but Im not competitive gamer nor I require 10^99 FPS, 60 fps is more then  fine for me. (I know more is  better and that is all good, Im not ready to commit to buy everything new at this point).

 

I enjoy graphic fidelity more then all that fps, so I was thinking to buy 2060 super or 1660 super. Im not sure what I gain/lose if I go with either of this option so I would appreciate your input. 

 

Could someone please give me some suggestions?

 

Thank you!

 

 

[Edon]

Just now, TofuHaroto said:

What are they priced at and what about the 5600xt and the 5700 ?

Your kind of limited by your haswell cpu 

Lacks ipc and it's a 4c/4t cpu as well 

In games like Anno 1800, where from what I have seen , is a cpu heavy game. You'll be heavily limited by your cpu.

I could go AMD also, I don't mind. What Im interested is best experience even if I have to give extra 50-70 euros. 

 

[Fictionvl]

1 minute ago, gilad said:

s you can get 2070 super or 2060 super but dont buy rx5700 or rx5700xt i got it and is terrible!

I'm going to disagree with you there, the 5700 XT is amazing for the money, I can easily push 130fps on COD warzone at 1440p high settings.

[Haro]

1 minute ago, Edon said:

if I have to give extra 50-70 euros

What are they priced at ? 

The 2060 / 1660 super / 5700/XT / 5600xt?

[Edon]

I dont care if its AMD or Nvidia, Im wondering what can I get which will do ok/good with what I have. 

[Edon]

Just now, TofuHaroto said:

What are they priced at ? 

The 2060 / 1660 super / 5700/XT / 5600xt?

2060 ia around 350 euro, 1660 super around 270-300 euro, 5700 and XT 380-420 euro, 5600 xt 370 -400 euro. 

[Fictionvl]

1 minute ago, TofuHaroto said:

What are they priced at ? 

The 2060 / 1660 super / 5700/XT / 5600xt?

the 5700 XT out performs the 2060 and is slgihtly lesser than the 2070. 

its priced at 460$ roughly

[Haro]

Just now, Fictionvl said:

its priced at 460$ roughly

No I know what they are priced at usually 

Idk where OP lives and how prices are where he lives.

[Haro]

1 minute ago, Edon said:

2060 ia around 350 euro, 1660 super around 270-300 euro, 5700 and XT 380-420 euro, 5600 xt 370 -400 euro. 

5700 is basically a 2060s ( somewhere around there ) has a bigger frame buffer than the 2060 and should be fine. 

The thing is, you're limited by your cpu in games like Anno, unless your planning a platform upgrade.

[BillNyeThecommieSpy]

9 minutes ago, gilad said:

s you can get 2070 super or 2060 super but dont buy rx5700 or rx5700xt i got it and is terrible! and what is your psu valtage? you need atleast 600w

uhm, no?

[Edon]

Just now, TofuHaroto said:

5700 is basically a 2060s ( somewhere around there ) has a bigger frame buffer than the 2060 and should be fine. 

The thing is, you're limited by your cpu in games like Anno, unless your planning a platform upgrade.

I will not upgrade my platform I want to use my i5 4570 and everything else which is in the case. That is why I don't see a point in upgrading to best of the best. 

[Edon]

Cmon guys, please don't turn this into fight over PSU, GPU, drivers and what not. I just asked what can I use with my current setup, there is no need for WW3 over this. 

[Haro]

Just now, Edon said:

That is why I don't see a point in upgrading to best of the best. 

Even if your limited by your cpu 

Performance difference between the 1660 super and the 2060/ a higher end card will still be a thing. 

Depends on what you find good enough for your budget, from these prices , the 5700 is the sweet spot.

[TaZKobRa]

I run an i5 4570 with a GTX 1060. My frames are significantly worse that what I could get with even a 6th gen CPU. I struggle to run Witcher 3 at medium-high settings at 60fps 1080p. Any of the newer titles will bother you tons, especially at 1440p.

My point is, I think you should buy what's cheaper. The performance differences will be a lot more marginal than the numbers you see online.

[Edon]

2 minutes ago, TofuHaroto said:

Even if your limited by your cpu 

Performance difference between the 1660 super and the 2060/ a higher end card will still be a thing. 

Depends on what you find good enough for your budget, from these prices , the 5700 is the sweet spot.

Wouldn't that be huge bottleneck? CPU wouldn't be able to keep up?

I really don't know this stuff so sorry if I ask stupid questions. 

[Haro]

Just now, Edon said:

really don't know this stuff so sorry if I ask stupid questions. 

It's all good 

 

Just now, Edon said:

Wouldn't that be huge bottleneck? CPU wouldn't be able to keep up?

Technically yes, but that won't mean that you won't notice a performance uplift with a 5700 compared to a 1660 super.

[Edon]

2 minutes ago, TaZKobRa said:

I run an i5 4570 with a GTX 1060. My frames are significantly worse that what I could get with even a 6th gen CPU. I struggle to run Witcher 3 at medium-high settings at 60fps 1080p. Any of the newer titles will bother you tons, especially at 1440p.

My point is, I think you should buy what's cheaper. The performance differences will be a lot more marginal than the numbers you see online.

Thank you your input! Do you have 3gb or 6gb version?

[Edon]

Just now, TofuHaroto said:

It's all good 

 

Technically yes, but that won't mean that you won't notice a performance uplift with a 5700 compared to a 1660 super.

Ok, would you be able to guess how big of a difference would that be? Just to point out, I have 1440p screen with max 60fps, so there is no reason to have more then that.

[TaZKobRa]

1 minute ago, Edon said:

Thank you your input! Do you have 3gb or 6gb version?

6GB. Many of the older titles run fine. But I've tried Farcry 5, Assassins' Creed Odyssey and a few other games. Barely getting 50fps at 1080p medium-high settings. Also, lots of fps spikes and dips. Theoretically, should be better at 1440p, but with this ancient CPU? I wouldn't bet on it.

[Edon]

Just now, TaZKobRa said:

6GB. Many of the older titles run fine. But I've tried Farcry 5, Assassins' Creed Odyssey and a few other games. Barely getting 50fps at 1080p medium-high settings. Also, lots of fps spikes and dips. Theoretically, should be better at 1440p, but with this ancient CPU? I wouldn't bet on it.

Im not happy about that, on the other hand I cannot expect some stellar performance from 7 year old platform. 

[Haro]

2 minutes ago, Edon said:

Ok, would you be able to guess how big of a difference would that be?

Sadly I don't play Anno 

In fact I almost don't play any games lol. 

Look at benchmarks maybe.